🤝 Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

DS can be as mild as slight delays and fair physical health to severely impaired with a low quality of life.
Someone I know willingly adopted a boy with DS. He required heart surgeries as an infant and was getting stronger and then had a massive stroke out of nowhere. Now this 16 yr old is non verbal and partially paralyzed.He is 16 and weighs 300 pounds now she can't handle him. Her child's life is basically diaper changes, and multiple therapists doing pt and it that will be absolutely pointless with this kid.

Fuck, that is a nightmare. Poor boy. For what it's worth, PT is good for even profoundly disabled people who will never have the ability to stand or walk. It can help maintain range of motion in the large joints, which reduces the pain caused by contractures, and any kind of weight bearing, even if it requires full assistance, is helpful for maintaining bone mass and density. It is very, very common for people with severe disability to suffer bone fractures without any precipitating trauma. They can break long bones from being dresses, bathed, or repositioned, and it's obviously horrifying for a caregiver to break their kid's femurs by putting them into their wheelchair.

PT/OT isn't always about helping a person recover. Sometimes the goal is to keep them comfortable and find ways to modify their surroundings to maximize convenience for caregivers.

I am really sorry about your friend's boy. I hope he's comfortable and that they have happy memories of the boy he was to sustain them in the darkest times.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

DS can be as mild as slight delays and fair physical health to severely impaired with a low quality of life.
Someone I know willingly adopted a boy with DS. He required heart surgeries as an infant and was getting stronger and then had a massive stroke out of nowhere. Now this 16 yr old is non verbal and partially paralyzed.He is 16 and weighs 300 pounds now she can't handle him. Her child's life is basically diaper changes, and multiple therapists doing pt and it that will be absolutely pointless with this kid.

in my field of work, clients get sent to nursing homes and facilities when care becomes too much. It is no means an easy decision, and not a fun one. Sounds like that should be what happens with the DS kid.

 

[Serialmom]

Fuck, that is a nightmare. Poor boy. For what it's worth, PT is good for even profoundly disabled people who will never have the ability to stand or walk. It can help maintain range of motion in the large joints, which reduces the pain caused by contractures, and any kind of weight bearing, even if it requires full assistance, is helpful for maintaining bone mass and density. It is very, very common for people with severe disability to suffer bone fractures without any precipitating trauma. They can break long bones from being dresses, bathed, or repositioned, and it's obviously horrifying for a caregiver to break their kid's femurs by putting them into their wheelchair.

PT/OT isn't always about helping a person recover. Sometimes the goal is to keep them comfortable and find ways to modify their surroundings to maximize convenience for caregivers.

I am really sorry about your friend's boy. I hope he's comfortable and that they have happy memories of the boy he was to sustain them in the darkest times.

They did make lots of memories when he was well. He doesn't want for anything.

 

[Treasure Champs]

Tinslee Lewis Update

After two years of hospital versus parents in and out of court, someone has called Aetna (the money-grubbing for Medicaid division, in case you're wondering). (archive)

Tinslee Lewis case under review by insurance investigative unit, Cook Children’s says​

BY KALEY JOHNSON
MAY 16, 2021 05:58 PM,



Mother says Tinslee Lewis' condition is improving at Fort Worth hospital
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Video taken April 27, 2021, shows Tinslee Lewis moving her legs in response to therapy commands, according to her mother, Trinity Lewis, who is in a legal battle with Cook Children's hospital in Fort Worth, TX to continue her daughter's medical care.



The hospital providing life-sustaining treatment for a 2-year-old girl continued to ask a Fort Worth court to schedule a swift trial date in order to determine whether or not physicians can end the toddler’s care.
Tinslee Lewis’ family has been fighting to keep her alive at Cook Children’s Medical Center, while the hospital says her condition will never improve and treatment should end. Tinslee Lewis’ mother, Trinity Lewis, said Cook Children’s Medical Center has “grossly mischaracterized” Tinslee’s condition.
Cook Children’s asked the 48th District Court of Fort Worth to quickly schedule a trial date to decide whether Tinslee’s life support care should be removed. Lewis and her legal team argue that they need more time to find another hospital to transfer Tinslee to and prepare their case for a hearing. The hospital has asked for a July 26 trial date. Attorneys for Tinslee and her mother filed paperwork asking for a January 2022 date.

On May 11, Cook Children’s filed a response to Lewis’ motion in which she and her legal team said the expedited court proceedings the hospital asked for would create “an unreasonable timeline for everyone, including this Court.”
In her motion filed May 6, Lewis said Tinslee, who was born with a rare heart condition, continues to improve. She is undergoing occupational therapy and has been weaned off pain medication, the motion says. Lewis and her attorneys say they need more time to develop their case for the trial due to Tinslee’s lengthy medical records. They also continue to search for hospitals to try and transfer Tinslee to, and hope her improving condition will lead to a transfer, according to the motion.

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“Tinslee’s life is a miracle and she proves that every day!” said Kim Schwartz, a spokeswoman with Texas Right to Life, in a news release. “Look at this evidence and see for yourself how she is improving.”
Schwartz was referring to a recent video and photos of Tinslee showing the toddler awake.
Tinslee has been kept alive with medical care and “extreme efforts,” according to hospital officials, and the hospital disputes Lewis’ description of her daughter’s condition. Through court motions, Cook Children’s continues to say that Tinslee is not improving and is suffering due to her medical treatment. The hospital argues none of her treatments have improved her underlying illness, which Cook Children’s says is terminal.
“She is being kept alive only by extraordinary and aggressive measures, and she continues to suffer,” the hospital’s motion said.
The hospital said no other facilities will take over Tinslee’s care despite Lewis and Cook Children’s reaching out to other hospitals and physicians.

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COST OF TINSLEE’S CARE​

Debate over the cost of Tinslee’s care also intensified when the hospital said in its appeal that Texas had spent $24 million in Medicaid funds to help keep Tinslee alive. The state of Texas, Cook Children’s said, is threatening to interject in the case due to the cost.
Lewis and her attorneys said they had heard nothing about a potential intervention into the case and could not confirm Cook Children’s claims. A Texas Health & Human Services Commission spokeswoman told the Star-Telegram the agency has not tried to intervene in the case.
However, in its most recent motion, Cook Children’s said a review of Tinslee’s case was initiated by third-party administrator Aetna’s Special Investigative Unit, which has requested all of Tinslee’s records. The Special Investigative Unit’s mandate under Medicaid regulations is to investigate “waste, abuse, and fraud,” the motion says.
“In Cook Children’s experience, such reviews are often precursors to efforts to deny payment or even claw back funds previously paid,” the motion said.

Tinslee has spent most of her life at Cook Children’s. The legal battle surrounding the toddler has made its way through every level of the court system, and now is working its way through the appeals process.
In October 2019, Cook Children’s Ethics Committee voted unanimously to end Tinslee’s treatment. Under the Texas Advance Directives Act, the hospital can end treatment for a patient if the care is deemed futile. The law also protects a hospital from being sued in such a case.
However, Lewis fought back for her daughter’s life. She and her attorney filed an injunction against the hospital in November 2019.
Since then, the case went up through the courts, with each side appealing if the ruling was not in their favor. In January 2020, a judge ruled that Tinslee could be taken off life support after an emotional hearing in the 48th District Court in Fort Worth. In July 2020, the Second Appellate District of Texas in Fort Worth reversed that decision.
In October 2020, the Texas Supreme Court denied the hospital’s petition to take Tinslee off life support and in January, the federal Supreme Court rejected the hospital’s plea, as well.

The case now returns to the lower court for a final ruling. If the 48th District Court rules in favor of Tinslee’s mother, the hospital cannot end her treatment.

This is not the most sickly entertaining thing, as the parents have started down the Jahi McMath path of "she's totally moving on command!" potato-quality videos.

Bonus tard pic from April 12th of 'normal' child:


There has also been some additional crazy from the fundies:

The Church Militant are mad about pagans (archive):

The battle over life and death in Texas​

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The Catholic Church is the only reason there are hospitals, nursing homes and other facilities that cater to the poor and suffering. The first hospital was established in Rome around A.D. 400 by St. Fabiola.
As soon as Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity, saints began erecting institutions to care for the sick and unwanted of society. This was definitely a big job for Catholics, especially since pagan society didn't see much merit in helping out those who couldn't help themselves.
Our Lord actually promised his disciples there would be plenty of poor throughout the world, saying in the Gospel of St. Mark, "For the poor, you have with you always. And whenever you wish, you are able to do good to them."
Whenever Christians from Europe ventured into new territory, hospitals were established — often to the confusion of the pagan native inhabitants.
Now, however, the sun is setting on western civilization, and the Church is beset by a diabolic disorientation. Health care is one of several lucrative industries, and the Church's moral influence is almost non-existent — even in Catholic hospitals.
In previously Christian Europe, many people have accepted physician-assisted suicide, abortion and contraception.

In the United States, Catholic hospitals struggle to enforce morality. In Texas, in particular, the Church's failure is especially tragic.
Church Militant recently reported on how Fort Worth bishop Michael Olson has supported legislation that would allow a hospital "ethics" board to put a young girl to death — all over the objections of her parents and other family members.
Olson justified his stance on the matter, claiming, "Life itself always has quality that can never be lost. And the inherent dignity of human life requires that we not cling to this life with excessive, burdensome and oppressive treatments. For our ultimate destiny is eternal life with Christ in Heaven."
Olson, as a successor of the apostles, is calling the sustaining of two-year-old Tinslee Lewis' life "excessive, burdensome and oppressive." The hospital is claiming the cost to care for Lewis is becoming prohibitive, allegedly nearing $24 million.
At one time, pagans sacrificed innocent people to demons, hoping it would satisfy the anger of the gods and end tribulations for their people. Now, some of the Church's princes are doing something similar.

This one emphasizes the crazy bitch mom asking to push back the court date to Jan 2022, which in itself I would argue is an act of either pure ignorance or pure evil (archive).

CBN News previously reported the appeals court granted Tinslee emergency relief, meaning the hospital cannot stop her life support while the appeal is pending.


After receiving a letter from Gov. Greg Abbott and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, the appeals court agreed to delay an earlier judge's ruling that would have allowed doctors to stop life support for the girl, according to KTBC-TV in Austin.

Doctors at the hospital had originally planned to remove Tinslee from life support when she was 9-months-old under the Texas "10-day rule" which can be employed when a family disagrees with doctors who say life-sustaining treatment should be stopped.

And the law stipulates that if the hospital's ethics committee agrees with doctors, treatment can be withdrawn after 10 days if a new provider can't be found to take the patient.

Cook Children's filed an appeal last month asking the 48th District Court of Fort Worth to schedule a new court date to decide whether Tinslee should be removed from life support.

"This child should not be forced to endure this fate for months on end while this matter continues its creep through the legal system," the hospital's appeal reads.


But Tinslee's doctors have repeatedly told her mother, Trinity, that the young girl is doing better than they expected, according to the family's motion.

"She is not stiff. She is no longer nasally intubated," the court document reads. "She is pointing and communicating."

The hospital requested the court set a trial date for July 26, however, the family argued that won't provide enough time to bring their case to court.

Attorneys for Tinslee and her mother filed paperwork asking for a January 2022 court date.

"Tinslee's life is a miracle and she proves that every day! Look at this evidence and see for yourself how she is improving," said Texas Right to Life Director of Media and Communication.

"Eighteen months after Cook Children’s Medical Center first tried to discontinue toddler Tinslee Lewis’ care, she is still living, growing, and, according to her mother, improving." @TheTexanNews https://t.co/Mx5aHpVpFn
Join our list! Text JOIN to 40237.
— Texas Right to Life (Text ProLife to 40237) (@TXRightToLife) May 10, 2021

Edit: I can't believe I almost forgot the youtube comments. Tardier than Tinslee.

 

[Android raptor]

At this point, Tinslee's parents and Texas Right to Life should be charged with child torture.

I know dick all about this shit but those videos to me just look like writhing around aimlessly. Any medfags?

I still say Robyn is the most loathesome of all Tard baby parents but Tinslee's parents and their enablers are really trying their best to give her a run for her money in the pointless child torture department.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Court docs are up for Tinslee here.

Pretty good summary of how awful a life Tinslee has from the Hospital's Motion:

Spoiler: Factual & Medical Summary

The Court is familiar with the underlying facts of this dispute through the date of the temporary injunction hearing (December 12, 2019) and such details will not be repeated here.

The critical issues relevant to the dispute that have taken place since the last date that the Court took evidence, are as follows:

T.L. remains terminal with no medical treatment available to improve her long-term prognosis
The key issue before the Court is unchanged: T.L. is terminal and no medical treatment can improve her long-term prognosis. While Cook Children’s continues to take care of T.L., none of the treatments she has received have in any way been curative to her underlying condition. She cannot properly maintain adequate oxygenation of her blood without aggressive ventilation and constant care and support. No medical professional that has reviewed her medical records has found any reason for hope or located any physician or facility that has thought they could improve her short- or long-term prognosis. Nor, has any facility offered to assume her care.


T.L. has only survived until now because she has been subject to extreme and aggressive treatments well beyond the standard of care
As the Court may recall, as of December 12, 2019, T.L.’s prognosis was dire and she was not likely to survive even a few more months if treated within the standard of care. However, following the orders of this Court and the Second Court of Appeals, Cook Children’s instituted heroic measures designed to keep T.L. alive that far exceed the medical standards. While such actions have kept T.L. technically alive, such care has consequences. T.L. has spent her days sedated and paralyzed in order to remain still and calm so that the limited oxygen she absorbs can keep her brain alive. She has had extremely limited movement. She cannot cuddle. She is rarely held.

And, as discussed in more detail below, the aggressive treatment that has been necessitated to keep T.L. alive since December 2019 both increased her suffering and has had profound negative consequences.

T.L. continues to suffer and her medical condition has continued to decline necessitating an emergency tracheostomy on March 30
Having now spent more than a year paralyzed, sedated, and attached to the multiple machines that keep her alive, T.L.’s body is ravaged. She has suffered numerous serious infections. While each infection was aggressively treated and beaten back, they have caused suffering and more infections will appear in the future.

Because T.L. has not been able to move, her muscles have wasted away and her limbs are contracting. Her care has become harder and harder to maintain as, for example, the muscles in T.L.’s jaw have stiffened and contracted so much that her mouth can barely be opened. This condition created danger to T.L.’s airway, which mandated an emergency tracheostomy on March 30 (which, as the Court will recall, was a procedure deemed not in T.L.’s best interest until it suddenly became necessary for her survival). She is swollen and stiff such that almost any attempted movement is extremely painful.

Moreover, T.L.’s brain and lungs have suffered deterioration from her treatment. While the full extent of such deterioration cannot be measured while T.L. is kept in her current condition, there is little doubt that she is profoundly developmentally delayed.

T.L. continues to be in constant pain, and her care exacerbates her suffering. Not only are her medical treatments painful, but basic life necessities – such as a diaper change – are excruciating for T.L. Because of the stiffness of her limbs, an extreme amount of pressure must be placed on T.L.’s legs to separate them enough for her to be cleaned and changed. This causes such extreme pain that T.L.’s nurses typically begin by apologizing to T.L. in hopes she will understand that the torturous exercise she is undergoing is not their choice. But, of course, due to her medication, T.L. has limited movement and is unable to communicate.

Indeed, T.L.’s condition is such that Cook Children’s cannot even get a quick reading regarding its desire to shift T.L.’s medication. As the Court may recall, Cook Children’s has tried on numerous occasions to wean T.L. off some of her medications (such as the paralytics) and, to date, she has not tolerated the change in her medication. Cook Children’s is currently in a cycle of trying yet again. However, because T.L.’s muscles are so atrophied, she is not capable of significant movement currently and, therefore, Cook Children’s cannot get a reading as to whether she can tolerate less medication going forward. This is a critical question as Plaintiff allegedly continues to seek to have T.L. treated at a facility with a lower level of care where such medications may not be available. Notably, while Plaintiff has repeatedly claimed that performing a tracheostomy on TL was the only barrier to finding a facility that would be willing to assume her care, over two weeks have passed since TL underwent the surgery and, to date, Plaintiff has not provided the names of any of these facilities or doctors. Further, no physician or outside facility has independently contacted Cook Children’s to initiate a transfer.

And, absent a court ruling, this is the only future T.L. can look forward to: Spending day after day in needless agony until, one day, she suffers a dying event that she does not recover from. Her pain and suffering is made worse by T.L.’s brain function. She is not brain dead or in a coma. Though she is paralyzed, she feels every painful intervention and suffers the fear and anxiety that comes along with it. And as a baby, she cannot understand what is being done to her. She can only know that her doctors and nurses hurt her.

As the financial cost of T.L.’s medical care – which is currently covered by a Texas Medicaid managed program – has continued to mount, the State of Texas’s manager appears to be reviewing whether continued care for T.L. is appropriate
Although this case has never been about money – and Cook Children’s has never considered finances when making an end-of-life decision – the State of Texas (through its manager of a Medicaid care program) is now threatening to interject the issue into this dispute.

T.L.’s medical care is paid for through a special Texas Medicaid managed program known as Texas STAR Kids. Texas has hired a third party to administer the program for the State who, among other things, evaluates charges to determine whether treatment should be covered as medically appropriate and within the standard of care.

As would be expected in light of the extreme efforts that have been required to keep T.L. alive since birth, Cook Children’s and its physicians have incurred more than $24 million in billable charges for T.L.’s medical care through 2020.

Although the Attorney General for the State of Texas filed amicus briefs in this action to support Plaintiff’s temporary injunction, the State’s Medicaid manager has recently begun to review whether – as a steward of the public’s money – Texas should be spending tax dollars on T.L.’s medical care when such care is medically futile, far beyond the applicable medical standard of care, and cannot impact her underlying condition. Although its review of the matter is ongoing, the actions of the State shed even further light on the lack of merit of the Plaintiffs’ claims.

After the Second Court of Appeals issued its decision, the Texas Supreme Court and United States Supreme Court declined to consider whether the opinion was correct until a final judgment is issued
On July 24, 2020, a 2-1 panel of the Second Court of Appeals issued a 148-page opinion that reversed this Court, appeared to declare the Texas Advance Directives Act unconstitutional, and ordered that a temporary injunction be granted. As noted by the dissent, the majority’s pronouncement that a private hospital such as Cook Children’s should be considered a “state actor” due to the character of its conduct was incorrect, novel, and sought to expand the scope of Section 1983 into areas that “patently are not state action merely because of the weightiness or importance of the challenged decision.”

Although the opinion was interim in nature – and not a ruling on the merits of the dispute – Cook Children’s tried, and was unable, to appeal the decision as the reviewing courts were not willing to consider the issue until a final ruling was made. On October 16, 2020, the Texas Supreme Court declined to consider the interim opinion and denied Cook Children’s petition for review without comment. And on January 11, 2021, the United States Supreme Court denied the application for writ of certiorari as its jurisdiction only allows it to review
“final judgments or decrees rendered by the highest court of a state in which a decision could be had.” See 28 U.S.C. § 1257(a). As the court of appeals’ opinion was neither final nor made by the “highest court” of Texas, the Supreme Court determined that they could not review the decision.

Spoiler: PLaintiff's Motion for Scheduling Order

"The Parties’ proposed discovery control plans differ as widely as how they see this case. Defendant seeks the demise of T.L. as soon as possible. By contrast, Plaintiffs wanted a tracheostomy for T.L. to improve her health so she could leave Cook Children’s Medical Center (“Cook’s”) alive. Defendant’s ridiculously short discovery plan reflects its values."

"As expected, T.L. has been more comfortable with the trach and the paralytic drugs she was on when ventilated, have been reduced. As a result, she is more active and alert. Moreover, a recent consultation with a neurologist discussed developmental and speech delays, but the key here is that speech is now being discussed again for T.L.’s future. When she was 11 months old, there was a note in her chart that mentioned speech therapy may be necessary for her in the future. Nevertheless, Cook still appears intent on killing T.L. at the first available opportunity with increasingly crass language and reasoning and hyperbolic, gross mischaracterizations and misrepresentations of her actual condition and prognosis."

"TRIAL SETTING: 1/31/2022
PRETRIAL MATTERS:
Pretrial Hearing: 1/17/2022
Plaintiffs’ Expert Designations: 8/13/2021
Defendant’s Expert Designations: 8/27/2021
Plaintiffs’ Rebuttal Experts: 9/10/2021
Defendant’s Rebuttal Experts: 9/24/2021
Discovery Completion Date: 10/22/2021
Depositions Completion Date: 10/22/2021
Alternative Dispute Resolution/
Mediation: 5/10/2021
Motions for Summary Judgment: 11/5/2021
Motions to Exclude Expert
Testimony: 11/19/2021
Hearing on Daubert/Robinson
Challenges: 12/13/2021
Plaintiffs submit that their proposal is still quite efficient and with a fairly rapid trial date under the circumstances – only nine months from now."

Spoiler: Hospitals Motion for Expedieted Trial

"This case presents a tragic situation involving a suffering child. Rather than focusing on T.L. – or even the legal issues presented here – a group of people are attempting to turn her situation into a public circus so that she can serve as a face for their fight to change Texas law. However, in their zeal for a cause célèbre, they have doomed a little girl to a life of daily torture and pain for no justifiable reason. This child should not be forced to endure this fate for months on end while this matter continues its creep through the legal system."

"First, a trial date in July is justified due to the ongoing condition of T.L. and the impact of this case on her physical and mental condition. As noted above, T.L. continues to suffer and the medical care she receives daily increases her pain. Moreover, her condition continues to deteriorate. As noted by the testimony at the hearing on the motion for temporary injunction, being forced to treat T.L. has also impacted the doctors and nurses at Cook Children’s who find themselves judicially ordered to violate their ethical code by harming a child for no medical benefit. Principals of equity clearly mandate that the Court expedite the process as it is simply cruel to drag this matter out."

"While Cook Children’s believes that the interim deadlines can be negotiated and agreed to between the parties, to the extent that the Court desires to immediately enter a full scheduling order, Cook Children’s suggests the following deadlines:
• Deadline to File/Amend Pleadings Seeking Affirmative Relief: June 7, 2021
• Plaintiff’s Expert Designations: June 11, 2021
• Defendant’s Expert Designations: June 22, 2021
• Plaintiff’s Rebuttal Expert Designations: July 2, 2021
• Discovery Completion Date: July 16, 2021
• Deadline to File Motions to Exclude Experts: July 12, 2021
• Trial: July 26, 2021"

 

[A Welsh Cake]

God made it possible for abortions to exist. It is not “going against god” if he’s provided the ability for humans to do such things.

 

[Android raptor]

God made it possible for abortions to exist. It is not “going against god” if he’s provided the ability for humans to do such things.

And even if you don't want an abortion, you can still tell medical staff to provide palliative care only. You'd think if anything is going against good, it's artificially prolonging the life of a terminally fucked up kid with cutting edge medical tech.

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

I am genuinely shocked that a nurse hasn't taken one for the team and gently offed Tinslee yet. I would gladly do jail time if it meant not having to torture a child every day. Jesus her life is like a Saw movie

 

[NotYourMom]

I am genuinely shocked that a nurse hasn't taken one for the team and gently offed Tinslee yet. I would gladly do jail time if it meant not having to torture a child every day. Jesus her life is like a Saw movie

From what I understand, many of the medical professionals who work with her have their own families and children at home that they need to provide for.

Tinslee is also likely being monitored too closely for anyone to take the risk.

 

[Android raptor]

I am genuinely shocked that a nurse hasn't taken one for the team and gently offed Tinslee yet. I would gladly do jail time if it meant not having to torture a child every day. Jesus her life is like a Saw movie

Especially since unlike Jahi or Jaxon, we know she's aware and suffering. The issue isn't that she's essentially a corpse and functionally dead already, it's that's she's not and continues to suffer because of it. If there was a case where nurses killing a patient is justified, I think this is it because she's suffering so horribly and has no hope of recovery.

At this point if a nurse slipped her a little too much painkiller and sat with her til the end I think everyone except her insane parents and prolife groups would consider the nurse a hero. Forcing a kid to continue suffering like this should be criminal, it's like if a kid had terminal cancer but the parent insisting on continuing chemo and other painful treatments that just prolonged the kids suffering instead of starting hospice care.

I'm not surprise she has developmental delays now, since she can't even be cuddled even if she were to somehow recover she'd probably still end up with brain damage like kids from eastern European orphanages.

 

[Treasure Champs]

I am genuinely shocked that a nurse hasn't taken one for the team and gently offed Tinslee yet. I would gladly do jail time if it meant not having to torture a child every day. Jesus her life is like a Saw movie

I'm more surprised that there are any nurses left who have not absolutely and unequivocally refused to keep performing procedures on her. Offing someone as famous as Tinslee invites, at best, being investigated for negligence if not murder, messed up as the ethics of this are. If it were a vet keeping a dog in this condition they would certainly be looking at the opposite: losing their license to practice because of shoddy ethics for keeping the animal alive.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah when Lillie Jean and her insane mother refused to take their dying, suffering cat who could no longer eat or drink to the vet to be put down everyone following their antics was pretty appalled. Personally I think that's one of the worst things they've done, especially since it's likely they just like the poor cat suffer until it finally died of dehydration or starvation.

Forcing a human, especially a human child, to suffer like Tinslee should be criminal. As shitty as the UK can be I think they're better than the US on the front of shutting down insane parents and prolifers that want to prolong the suffering of terminally ill kids like Alfie Evans.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Those court documents are a genuinely hard read even for a hardened asshole like me.

Imagining even for a moment what that child's life and experience of the world is -- a paralytic log capable only of feeling pain, never held, every bodily function conducted through tubes, and all while she is a baby with at least some brain function, for years -- it's too awful to contemplate. I cannot imagine the sadist who would allow this existence to continue for another living creature. I'd think it was cruel to do to a pig, or a frog. If a cosmetics company kept a monkey baby alive like this, the boycotts would take them off the market forever.

But there she is, a human child, condemned to hell on earth, touched as little as possible, hurt at each diaper change by a rotating cast of reluctant demons who apologize to her before they apply extreme force to spread her rigid legs apart.

 

[Serialmom]

Those court documents are a genuinely hard read even for a hardened asshole like me.

Imagining even for a moment what that child's life and experience of the world is -- a paralytic log capable only of feeling pain, never held, every bodily function conducted through tubes, and all while she is a baby with at least some brain function, for years -- it's too awful to contemplate. I cannot imagine the sadist who would allow this existence to continue for another living creature. I'd think it was cruel to do to a pig, or a frog. If a cosmetics company kept a monkey baby alive like this, the boycotts would take them off the market forever.

But there she is, a human child, condemned to hell on earth, touched as little as possible, hurt at each diaper change by a rotating cast of reluctant demons who apologize to her before they apply extreme force to spread her rigid legs apart.

Her mother is a POS.

 

[Cryin RN]

Her mother is a POS.

This is war crime shit. I can't imagine what those healthcare staff go through knowing that child is not braindead. They deserve to hit that mom with whatever federal crime ordering someone else's torture counts for.

 

[GenociderSyo]

It's not just the mother though she now has entire pro-life agency Texas for life frontlining it.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

It's not just the mother though she now has entire pro-life agency Texas for life frontlining it.

I wonder for how long though. I guess they have to double-down and stick to it.

What I find interesting is this is the sort of thing that pro-choice advocates (and I’m one of them) have been saying for years. They don’t want you to have abortions, every life is sacred, blah blah, but when it comes down to it, no one really wants to help you with your child. Tinslee isn’t a baby anymore, she’s a toddler, and all of the sudden the Texas taxpayers, Medicaid, and Aetna are saying “hold on a minute, is this costing us money?”. Like, no shit, you retards, you should have let this child pass peacefully when the issue first came up.

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

I'm more surprised that there are any nurses left who have not absolutely and unequivocally refused to keep performing procedures on her. Offing someone as famous as Tinslee invites, at best, being investigated for negligence if not murder, messed up as the ethics of this are. If it were a vet keeping a dog in this condition they would certainly be looking at the opposite: losing their license to practice because of shoddy ethics for keeping the animal alive.

From what I understand, many of the medical professionals who work with her have their own families and children at home that they need to provide for.

Tinslee is also likely being monitored too closely for anyone to take the risk.

The thought of having to pry open her legs to change her diaper and it being agony for her is just too much. I would risk it, family and all, before I was forced to do that ever. Sorry I deserve all the MOTI ratings I get but holy shit.

 

[Android raptor]

I feel like the cost of Tinslee's care is less the issue than the fact that she has no hope of recovery and is suffering horribly. I think most people would be ok with their tax dollars going to help care for kids who might actually improve or have a quality of life. But that's not the case with Tinslee, millions of tax dollars are being used to torture a toddler for no reason other than her parents and prolifers are determined to prolong her suffering for as long as possible.

If reincarnation exists I hope in the next life Tinslee has perfect health and real loving parents