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I know I'll get rated MATI by the women in the thread for this but I blame a rise in troondom on the modern feminist movement. It become woke and trendy to demonize men for arbitrary things like being overly flirty or "mansplaining" while at the same time women are praised for adopting traditionally male roles and behaviors. While the poster here is still likely a degenerate I understand where he's coming from, it must be very alienating for young men to grow up in this current climate.

I'm reminded of a situation I saw unfold on Twitter where a female game developer shared a code snippet with a clever solution to a problem she was facing, a man in the comments praised her for it and shared a solution for a similar problem he'd had in his own project. This woman with x100 his followers then proceeded to make an extremely lengthy thread shaming him for "mansplaining" when he was just trying to contribute to the conversation. I wish I could find this thread again but it was a few years ago and she received no kickback for it at all as far as I know.
I think it's more that the widespread availability of porn coupled with it now being possible for a group of fantasists to live extremely online has created a sense of normality of perversion for a sub category of men.
 
The big difference between "chad" and "beta" in this situation is social competency. The average beta incel guy is so autistic that he can't tell whether or not someone is into him, so he acts weird and clingy which is always unattractive.
nah man, ive seen it play out first hand
i make dirty jokes and teasing comments, girls react with a smile and a playful attitude
my friend (who's kinda weird looking and shorter than me) says the exact same kind of stuff, the reaction he gets is plain disgust and a general 'get away from me creep' attitude

nothing blackpills you harder on womens attitude than seeing a guy who is almost the exact same as you (except slightly lower status and looks) get shot down like a complete subhuman for behavior that you yourself get away with effortlessly. it's not what you do, it's what you are, end of story.
 
One thing I will say, as I've browsed trans forums that aren't Reddit, have been around longer, and are filled with the old school AGPs and HSTS. ... They try to be nice about it, but they still clearly state, you will always be a man, and surgery is completely cosmetic. We don't really become women.

Edit: I would really not mind giving troons their own bathrooms, partially due to the humanity and sanity I see from some of them.
"Let's show them some sympathy... they aren't all that bad. They deserve a little consideration. We could give them their own bathrooms."

Congratulations, you've rediscovered the line of thinking that led to the nightmare we're living through. "We know they aren't really women, but let's call them that to be nice. What's the harm?"
 
the main difference between 'creepy' and 'flirty' behavior whether the dude doing it is chad or beta lol
It really isn't. Not all of the time at least. Granted, people will tolerate a bit more weirdo behavior if you're attractive, but personality and social skills are much more important. I've seen plenty of ugly ass manlets that had no problem pulling women. All were genuinely funny, charming and pleasant to be around. And I'm sure if you scroll back on the thread you can find some troons that were pretty attractive pre-transition and still became, y'know, troons.

I do think third wave feminism and identity politics played a part in the rise of the troon phenomenon. But the normalization of porn and kink shit is what really started the whole problem. 90% of troons wanked themselves into their "identity."
 
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nah man, ive seen it play out first hand
i make dirty jokes and teasing comments, girls react with a smile and a playful attitude
my friend (who's kinda weird looking and shorter than me) says the exact same kind of stuff, the reaction he gets is plain disgust and a general 'get away from me creep' attitude

nothing blackpills you harder on womens attitude than seeing a guy who is almost the exact same as you (except slightly lower status and looks) get shot down like a complete subhuman for behavior that you yourself get away with effortlessly. it's not what you do, it's what you are, end of story.
So basically what you're saying is that women are physically attracted to some men and not others. So what?
 
I know I'll get rated MATI by the women in the thread for this but I blame a rise in troondom on the modern feminist movement. It become woke and trendy to demonize men for arbitrary things like being overly flirty or "mansplaining" while at the same time women are praised for adopting traditionally male roles and behaviors. While the poster here is still likely a degenerate I understand where he's coming from, it must be very alienating for young men to grow up in this current climate.

I'm reminded of a situation I saw unfold on Twitter where a female game developer shared a code snippet with a clever solution to a problem she was facing, a man in the comments praised her for it and shared a solution for a similar problem he'd had in his own project. This woman with x100 his followers then proceeded to make an extremely lengthy thread shaming him for "mansplaining" when he was just trying to contribute to the conversation. I wish I could find this thread again but it was a few years ago and she received no kickback for it at all as far as I know.

show me on the doll where the mean female game developer made you troon out

everything that's offered as a gender lifestyle now, used to just be a kink and hard to obtain. people who had these paraphilias were usually embarrassed and kept it to themselves unless they were super spergs. the internet gave us social contagion. now every degenerate with a paraphilic need doesn't have to pay to see an expensive sex worker, they can just DIY. Even better than DIY they have used the internet to create a community.
There's nothing new here, it's just amplified and given a stupid flag.
 
Nice find, this is one of the most uniquely disturbing things I've seen from the trans internet. Not blatantly shocking like Jonathan Yaniv, but evoking more of a creeping existential horror when you think about why someone would matter-of-factly publish something like this. Rape and sexual derangement must be absolutely rife among troons in order for them to draw a cartoon guide to "self-defense from an intimate partner." I'm guessing that they subscribe to some kind of progressive stack logic wherein rape and abuse only happen when someone is "punching down," so trans people aren't capable of doing those things, they just "go too far" sometimes and make their partner uncomfortable.

I think it's more that the widespread availability of porn coupled with it now being possible for a group of fantasists to live extremely online has created a sense of normality of perversion for a sub category of men.
Feminism and the other "progressive," "liberatory" movements all helped pave the way to clown world. Decades ago, "gender creative" people were smacked upside the head and told to act normal. But since the 1960s, western culture has been infected by the idea that "intolerance" is the worst of all evils and that all people are fundamentally equal. We now have a mainstream moral framework where tolerance is the only virtue and intolerance is the only vice. So today we live in a world where Drewiepoodle the Reddit mod can invite 13-year-olds to his apartment for free hormone shots and he won't get busted because that would be intolerant.
 
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I know I'll get rated MATI by the women in the thread for this but I blame a rise in troondom on the modern feminist movement. It become woke and trendy to demonize men for arbitrary things like being overly flirty or "mansplaining" while at the same time women are praised for adopting traditionally male roles and behaviors. While the poster here is still likely a degenerate I understand where he's coming from, it must be very alienating for young men to grow up in this current climate.

I'm reminded of a situation I saw unfold on Twitter where a female game developer shared a code snippet with a clever solution to a problem she was facing, a man in the comments praised her for it and shared a solution for a similar problem he'd had in his own project. This woman with x100 his followers then proceeded to make an extremely lengthy thread shaming him for "mansplaining" when he was just trying to contribute to the conversation. I wish I could find this thread again but it was a few years ago and she received no kickback for it at all as far as I know.
I'm inclined to agree, but not entirely. I think I'm 80% with you here. I don't think it's the main reason why trooning out is so common. I think that the fetishization of women's lives in media and society plays a larger factor as it perpetuates the idea that the grass is greener on the other side. But I have noticed how men cannot be themselves or participate on the grounds that they are men.

I do notice this problem online and offline and I actually sympathize with the white "cis" male in this current climate. As an individual, it must be dehumanizing to be told that you are at fault for things you had no control over. A weird phenomenon I've noticed is that a white male is simultaneously expected to be entirely knowledgeable but also entirely ignorant of his role and privilege in society. One must know of all of the ways that they are the devil but also be open to accept lessons of how they are the devil. I've had some thoughts about it that I want to write down, but I think I'll be dragged as an Uncle Ruckus that loves white dick if I posted it.

Honestly, if any white men have some thoughts about how they're treated in today's climate, feel free to DM me them.
 
i make dirty jokes and teasing comments, girls react with a smile and a playful attitude
my friend (who's kinda weird looking and shorter than me) says the exact same kind of stuff, the reaction he gets is plain disgust and a general 'get away from me creep' attitude
Delivery matters.
You can joke about almost anything (unless your social circle consists of snowflakes) as long as your delivery conveys your intention - that is, to joke. If you begin mumbling halfway through the sentence and stare intensely while your tone veers into some creepy territory then you all your rehearsal of “100 best Hitler jokes” goes to waste. Most social skills are innate and picked up from observing fellow humans. Even autists (albeit very high-functioning ones) can mimic some semblance of propriety and deliver a joke. Your friend is hopeless. Grant him a mercy kill.

I used to hang out with a mostly male group of friends, all of them average-looking, same-ish social status. No definite outliers. Yet we still had one common bully target in our circle because the dude was absolutely unable to:
1. take a joke
2. joke himself without adding awkward "hehe" at the end or spoiling the joke with his unconfident mumble
 
There is no need for ‘cis male’ it’s just plain ol ‘male’, there is only one kind of male, the penis having kind. Mission creep of trannyspeak is further validating their delusions.

Possible lol calf.

I’ve looked at so many Troons now that I’ve started to pay less attention to the cocks in frocks, and more to their squalid surroundings, so unsurprisingly, this one caught my eye:


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Let’s take a tour of the property...

Kitchen:
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Puppy:

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Given that women do most of the domestic work you would think cleaning their shit up would induce that "gender euphoria" they keep talking about...
 
Hey ladies! Has your husband/boyfriend trooned out and started to become violent with you for not respecting their new identity enough? Heres some ways to deescalate in a submissive way that wont hurt their delicate feelings! Whats that? Haha oh no silly, saying "no" is

N O T A N O P T I O N.

nah man, ive seen it play out first hand
i make dirty jokes and teasing comments, girls react with a smile and a playful attitude
my friend (who's kinda weird looking and shorter than me) says the exact same kind of stuff, the reaction he gets is plain disgust and a general 'get away from me creep' attitude

nothing blackpills you harder on womens attitude than seeing a guy who is almost the exact same as you (except slightly lower status and looks) get shot down like a complete subhuman for behavior that you yourself get away with effortlessly. it's not what you do, it's what you are, end of story.
I know this is posted a lot but..

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no woman would willingly touch an MTF in public like that, unlike they might to a regular gay man.
if you personally would, or have ever seen it happen, please let us know. *preemptive crickets*
Actually I have seen this in real life. I have a MTF friend (well, “friend” is a strong word, but you get the point) who is one of the most promiscuous people I know. He doesn’t even really look like a tranny, just an androgynous guy. It’s baffling. He seems to have a new girlfriend every week. My personal theory is that these are straight women who feel used by normal cishet men and date him because he’s feminine and doesn’t threaten them. Plus they get woke points and get to call themselves ~kweer~. As others have said I think it might be an evolved form of fag haggery.
 
im saying that the bullshit "just dont act creepy xD" posts i was replying to are just that: bullshit.
Acting like a normal person won't cause someone to be attracted to you if they aren't already, but it goes a long way to setting up a baseline for success. The problem with these weirdos is that they get fixated on someone who is definitely not interested, probably because they can't pick up on normal human social cues.
 
Well this isn't scary. A bunch of troons training themselves in martial arts. "Transfighters"


Nothing to fear here. They come in peace.

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Nah just kidding, they have no idea who they should or shouldn't punch. And they tell me I'm not allowed to be scared of these people.

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Do they seriously think women would want to grope a man in a dress? Oh, and the trans woman has an ACAB hoodie. How subtle.
So where's the "cis" men who've given birth then, if actual men with XY chromosomes have gotten pregnant?
 
I mean this is probably why. Plenty of straight women like androgynous guys. How much pussy do you think David Bowie got when he was in his prime?
Yeah but I don’t know how they are willing to call a 6 foot tall guy with a cleft chin a girl and comment how stunning and brave he is on all his Instagram pictures
 
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