Opinion Should We Just Let It Burn?

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My town’s not getting burned down because the rich coastal liberals with “Hate Has No Home Here” signs on their exquisitely landscaped front yards will never put up with that nonsense here in Shangri-Lib. In a very real way, the chaos that the liberals are creating by handcuffing other people’s cops – do you think my cops will ever get the order to stand down? – is not my problem. And, unless you are still living in some Democrat hellhole, it’s probably not your problem either.

So, why again when some big blue city that hasn’t had a Republican mayor since phrenology was the pseudo-science of the day – as quackery goes, head bump interpretation is way less damaging than weather paranoia and flu panic – suffers self-induced ritualized convulsions upon the death of yet another felon should the rest of us care?

But we will care, at least for now, because we are nice people and we think all Americans should live in something like peace and prosperity. It’s hard to get through our heads that not all of our countrymen feel that way. The chaos, violence, and misery that some Americans exist in is actually their choice. It’s a choice that liberals make, and they can make that choice because blue city voters inexplicably elect liberals who choose chaos.

The libs tried giving people money. That failed. Astonishingly, handing people free cash does not magically make things better. Then they tried improving the economies in these places by importing a bunch of foreigners to take all the entry level jobs. Astonishingly, that did not work either. Their current experiment is to make the cities woker by not arresting criminals who make the cities unlivable and releasing the few who are in jail. And – you are not going to believe this – that has also made things worse.

So, even though we do want to help – for now, because eventually there will come a point where non-blue city dwellers just shrug and say, “You’re on your own” – it’s not really clear what we can do gently. About 29 years ago this week, a bunch of soldiers and I tried to make Los Angeles safe again for a few weeks when we deployed in the Rodney King riots. It was quite an interesting time for a suburban guy who never ventured into the tougher parts of South-Central to be rumbling through it with an M16A1 rifle and a basic load of ammo. I got an up-close look at the reality of liberal misrule, though it was largely obscured by flames.

The people of the inner city loved us. They did not dig the LAPD, but they loved the Guards' citizen-soldiers, particular because many of our troops – my unit was 3rd Battalion, 160th Infantry based in smoldering Inglewood, for people who know the geography – were from the affected neighborhoods. And they took no guff. Many carried their own weapons and (allegedly) engaged in firefights with gang members with their own pieces so they did not have to account for spent Army rounds. The official combat tally was low. A Salvadorean drug dealer got his head blown off trying to run down some guardsmen at a road block – legend has it that the investigation consisted of some LAPD detectives rolling up, asking what happened, saying “Oh, okay,” then driving away. Also, rumor has it that a fleeing rapist got free gender reassignment surgery with a 5.56mm round. At other times, so it has been said, the guardsmen just beat the crap out of gangsters, who learned not to screw with the Army guys.

The locals were not heartbroken at this, not at all. Of course, this was before cell phones and total camera coverage, but the people were pretty happy about the thugs being driven away for a while. One lady told me how happy she was that her kids could play in the park now that the drug dealers were gone thanks to us. She hugged me, and people fed our troops while on patrol.

Maybe this was not politically correct, but it was sure as hell morally correct.

So, there is an answer to the violence. It’s called law and order. In extreme cases, like riots, it consists of massive, overwhelming force. But that’s a choice too, and one our gutless elite is not willing to make. They’d rather let the body count rise. They could end the murder spike tomorrow by backing the cops and dumping the leftist-bought prosecutors for real DAs. They could shut down riots and gangs and drug houses by simply shutting them down.

But they won’t.

And their constituents are not ready to force them to, not until the violence gets intolerably bad (and the liberals can tolerate a lot), or until the thugs push their luck by pushing into the suburbs and scaring the Trader Joe’s chardonnay mommy set.

Then it’s on like Donkey Kong, folks. To them, dead people in the ghetto are a statistic. Crime in the rich suburbs? That’s a crisis.

It’s all fun and games until it affects the white libs calling the shots. Word was that, during the riots, Beverly Hills – a liberal bastion – had its PD just shut the city off from people of color for a few days. If you had melanin, you weren’t getting in. And don’t hold your breath waiting for the BHPD to be defunded even today.

So, the question is not whether we normal people should just let the cities burn. In fact, we have no say in it unless we mobilize and invade. That’s not happening anytime soon. No, the question is whether the liberal establishment will tolerate this crap, and the answer is that it will until it gets scared. But then, all bets are off.
 
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/04/29/should-we-just-let-it-burn-n2588663 (Archive)

My town’s not getting burned down because the rich coastal liberals with “Hate Has No Home Here” signs on their exquisitely landscaped front yards will never put up with that nonsense here in Shangri-Lib. In a very real way, the chaos that the liberals are creating by handcuffing other people’s cops – do you think my cops will ever get the order to stand down? – is not my problem. And, unless you are still living in some Democrat hellhole, it’s probably not your problem either.

So, why again when some big blue city that hasn’t had a Republican mayor since phrenology was the pseudo-science of the day – as quackery goes, head bump interpretation is way less damaging than weather paranoia and flu panic – suffers self-induced ritualized convulsions upon the death of yet another felon should the rest of us care?

But we will care, at least for now, because we are nice people and we think all Americans should live in something like peace and prosperity. It’s hard to get through our heads that not all of our countrymen feel that way. The chaos, violence, and misery that some Americans exist in is actually their choice. It’s a choice that liberals make, and they can make that choice because blue city voters inexplicably elect liberals who choose chaos.

The libs tried giving people money. That failed. Astonishingly, handing people free cash does not magically make things better. Then they tried improving the economies in these places by importing a bunch of foreigners to take all the entry level jobs. Astonishingly, that did not work either. Their current experiment is to make the cities woker by not arresting criminals who make the cities unlivable and releasing the few who are in jail. And – you are not going to believe this – that has also made things worse.

So, even though we do want to help – for now, because eventually there will come a point where non-blue city dwellers just shrug and say, “You’re on your own” – it’s not really clear what we can do gently. About 29 years ago this week, a bunch of soldiers and I tried to make Los Angeles safe again for a few weeks when we deployed in the Rodney King riots. It was quite an interesting time for a suburban guy who never ventured into the tougher parts of South-Central to be rumbling through it with an M16A1 rifle and a basic load of ammo. I got an up-close look at the reality of liberal misrule, though it was largely obscured by flames.

The people of the inner city loved us. They did not dig the LAPD, but they loved the Guards' citizen-soldiers, particular because many of our troops – my unit was 3rd Battalion, 160th Infantry based in smoldering Inglewood, for people who know the geography – were from the affected neighborhoods. And they took no guff. Many carried their own weapons and (allegedly) engaged in firefights with gang members with their own pieces so they did not have to account for spent Army rounds. The official combat tally was low. A Salvadorean drug dealer got his head blown off trying to run down some guardsmen at a road block – legend has it that the investigation consisted of some LAPD detectives rolling up, asking what happened, saying “Oh, okay,” then driving away. Also, rumor has it that a fleeing rapist got free gender reassignment surgery with a 5.56mm round. At other times, so it has been said, the guardsmen just beat the crap out of gangsters, who learned not to screw with the Army guys.

The locals were not heartbroken at this, not at all. Of course, this was before cell phones and total camera coverage, but the people were pretty happy about the thugs being driven away for a while. One lady told me how happy she was that her kids could play in the park now that the drug dealers were gone thanks to us. She hugged me, and people fed our troops while on patrol.

Maybe this was not politically correct, but it was sure as hell morally correct.

So, there is an answer to the violence. It’s called law and order. In extreme cases, like riots, it consists of massive, overwhelming force. But that’s a choice too, and one our gutless elite is not willing to make. They’d rather let the body count rise. They could end the murder spike tomorrow by backing the cops and dumping the leftist-bought prosecutors for real DAs. They could shut down riots and gangs and drug houses by simply shutting them down.

But they won’t.

And their constituents are not ready to force them to, not until the violence gets intolerably bad (and the liberals can tolerate a lot), or until the thugs push their luck by pushing into the suburbs and scaring the Trader Joe’s chardonnay mommy set.

Then it’s on like Donkey Kong, folks. To them, dead people in the ghetto are a statistic. Crime in the rich suburbs? That’s a crisis.

It’s all fun and games until it affects the white libs calling the shots. Word was that, during the riots, Beverly Hills – a liberal bastion – had its PD just shut the city off from people of color for a few days. If you had melanin, you weren’t getting in. And don’t hold your breath waiting for the BHPD to be defunded even today.

So, the question is not whether we normal people should just let the cities burn. In fact, we have no say in it unless we mobilize and invade. That’s not happening anytime soon. No, the question is whether the liberal establishment will tolerate this crap, and the answer is that it will until it gets scared. But then, all bets are off.
Oh say can you see, by the fires eerie light...
 
Problem is, once those cities burn, blue voters will start moving into the suburbs and expanding the urban blight. Then they'll vote for the same policies that made the cities unlivable in the first place.

It's a microcosm of the ongoing CA/NY colonization of the flyover states.

Don't you dare complain about your neighborhood getting trashed, or heaven forbid, leave. That'd be white flight, and that's racist. You should instead consider letting your kids do business with the undocumented pharmacist on the corner, or help empower the neighborhood sex workers.
Fuck. You're right. This will become a problem sooner rather than later if we don't stop this.
 
Not opposed to that at all.
Even the innocents need to learn that no they are NOT going to be spared by some of these people.
Then again there is Chicongo.
 
Fuck. You're right. This will become a problem sooner rather than later if we don't stop this.
No matter, we can just bulldoze the national parks and build public housing on top of the newly-filled-in Grand Canyon.
 
I can see why you are so fatalistic. All of the right wing politicians, pundits, and writers do nothing but whine, whine, and whine. I have yet to see any of them coming up with a conservative alternative in dealing with the problem we are in.
 
The ideal solution is to set aside a designated city/region/island for all the tards to destroy. Arrest and ship all violent protestors and rioters to this place, and livestream it 24/7. All the benefits of watching these goofballs fight each other and try to grow vegetables out of cardboard, without the shitty parts like watching people lose their neighborhoods so woke ppl can feel good about themselves.
 
I'd rather not have fallout in my backyard.
That's what's so wonderful about neutron weapons, very little blast or long lasting radioactive fallout. They are specifically designed to release a massive wave of ionizing neutron radiation, which melts organic matter into soup, but leave a small blast and don't spread radioactive dust and material widly.

The goal was to use them to Croninberg and kill the populations of soviet cities but leave the infrastructure unharmed.
 
Unfortunately, it does have to burn. Nothing less will shake the 'tolerant' (cowardly) fence-sitters from their perch and realize that you cannot outsource public morality to the government, or worse, to NGOs, and that 'dem programz' are little more than paying the Danegeld to the lumpenproletariat and their (((advocates))).

From the perspective of history, the middle class has to be made to suffer before they will take necessary actions to slap down the BLMs, Antifas, and all other professional screamers and harassers.

The problem is that the demoralized tend to migrate away from the messes they created without learning their lesson. How does one legally stymie the effects of Blue migration? A, stop them from voting. B, stop their front organizations from infiltrating institutions and subverting them.
 
We shouldn't let anything burn, but the burning is going to happen regardless. Just hope that the worst that happens is we get another time like the 1970s, where a lot of cities were lawless and violent hellholes but people eventually got sick of that shit and it stopped. The worst case scenario is that the police become vestigial, PMCs become the new police for places wealthy or important enough to have them, and Gangs/Militias become the new cops basically everywhere else.
 
On the one hand, this author is hilarious and I want to buy him a drink and listen to war stories.

On the other hand, no. Just because people live in areas where they elect idiots that make everything worse, that does not mean that those people have somehow lost their right to personal property. That is a God-given right to every American and they have that right regardless of whether elected officials are willing to defend it. They shouldn't have to move to have their stores and homes protected from vandalism and arson. That is what "equal protection under the law" should mean.
 
I'm torn.
Its both satisfying to watch the hell holes selfimmolate, but it's also a city scale demonstration of cancer.

It destroys the host, but allows the cancer to spread to other uninfected systems.
 
I can see why you are so fatalistic. All of the right wing politicians, pundits, and writers do nothing but whine, whine, and whine. I have yet to see any of them coming up with a conservative alternative in dealing with the problem we are in.
There is no conservative alternative. These people dress exactly alike, cover their faces, and move in huge crowds. There is no way to determine which individual is responsible for any given piece of destruction, and so you could never convict any of them in a court of law.

But there is a fascist solution: let the police say "hang the prosecutors, the attorneys, and the judges, we will protect our cities" and go out with grenades and rifles. Clean the streets up once and for all.
 
The problem is that nothing will ever be good enough.

>Let the joggers kill each other? Racist.
>Stop the joggers from killing each other? Racist.
>Move into low-cost neighbourhoods and try to improve them? Racist.
>Leave neighbourhoods being turned into jogger gang strongholds? Racist.
>Lick jogger timbas? Racist.
>Don't lick jogger timbas? Racist.

I'm totally down with letting them sort this shit out themselves, a la CHAZ, and letting the strongest nog rule the roost, with the specific caveat that they aren't allowed out, once the gates close. Let them have their jogger's paradise, separate from the rest of the allegedly civilized retards that make up the population.
Back in the 2010's before Reddit was so pozzed, it was actually possible to have somewhat rational and dare I say "based" discussions in r/news and r/politics (albeit in a smaller scale). I say this because I distinctly remember a r/news thread involving gentrification, and the highest-upvoted (and gilded) comment said something along the lines of:

A) "White flight is racist! We need diversity!"
B) "Gentrification is racist! Whites go home!"

...pick one, liberals. They're mutually exclusive.

And a follow up to that post (which was also heavily upvoted) said something along the lines of, "I think the general consensus among these self-loathing progressives is that whitey is bad and that it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation."

But yeah, moving to non-white neighborhoods makes me a racist colonizer, and escaping non-white neighborhoods makes me a general racist. Can't seem to win with these folks. They can't live with us, can't live without us!
 
On the one hand, this author is hilarious and I want to buy him a drink and listen to war stories.

On the other hand, no. Just because people live in areas where they elect idiots that make everything worse, that does not mean that those people have somehow lost their right to personal property. That is a God-given right to every American and they have that right regardless of whether elected officials are willing to defend it. They shouldn't have to move to have their stores and homes protected from vandalism and arson. That is what "equal protection under the law" should mean.
I think Kurt's point is we shouldn't overly concern ourselves with it and ride in to their rescue. If they want to protect themselves, they can do so, but we shouldn't lose sleep over blue city folks suffering the consequences of their own actions. I also recommend his Kelly Turnbull fiction series, they're both amusing and prescient. The opening part about the false flag on the capitol was funny until 1/6 rolled around. Then you wish he'd stop writing things that keep hitting disturbingly close to happening.
 
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