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This is most of the MTFs on reddit (including the mods). They all think this way, they just don't admit it publicly. That's why its so gross they're all over the lesbian subreddits because like this dude, they started their "trans journey" by jacking it to lesbian porn. They're using the lesbian/women subreddits as fantasy material for their fetish
 
This thread has really made me second guess my opinion on trans individuals. I still don't care about the segment that just goes about their lives feeling content after transitioning and isn't bothering anyone, but my goodness the perpetually online constantly whining make the whole group look terrible. It's especially awful to hear about how terrible it is for lesbians dealing with mtf and also the plague that is the erasure of tomboy identity. Also, the weirdly high level of predators and creeps that seem to crop up in the community are really making me believe in the incel to trans pipeline that's been mentioned. They have that same creepy level of misplaced entitlement and awful personalities that incels always seem to have. It's especially fucked since that aura makes most women steer clear and most people would understand, but just because the person claims to be trans suddenly it's not okay for women to rely on their instincts.

The ones online seem obsessed with acting like a "proper women" and seem to root liking traditionally girly things as secretly meaning they are a transwoman, even if a bunch of them entirely miss the mark actually acting like one. I have no idea how they can champion things like "reject gender norms!!!" while also having the most strict views on what a man or woman can/can't like.
 
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Hrt. Not even once.

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Fucking, Plaidos has annoyed me for years, man. I can’t remember if I’d heard that particular little factoid before, but it does seem to fit with his character as a self-entitled hypocrite bellend. Dude runs the most popular Harry Potter blog on Tumblr and rants daily about how ‘Harry Potter is not that good actually, other books are better’ … yet refuses to make his blog about any other franchise. His opinion on the quality of that book series conveniently changed when Rowling was revealed as a radfem. And even though he advocates against anything that would give money to JKR (because she's LiTeRaLlY KiLliNg uS!) he still runs crowdfunding campaigns to buy Harry Potter merch that Rowling will directly profit from.

If someone doesn’t start a thread soon about that monster, so help me God, I will.
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There could be more but his blog layout is so ugly and just looking at his posts pisses me off so I'm not digging deeper.

The funniest part about the JK Rowling thing is she isn't even technically a "radfem" (I think she described herself as a centrist or something in the past), she just followed a few Gender Criticals on Twitter (one being Fionne Orlander, who is...literally a transwoman??) and acknowledged the existence of biological sex in her manifesto. Not to mention Harry Potter already had a decent amount of "problematic aspects" in it like the Cho Chang character and how Dumbledore was handled (this is something I've read from fans, I was never invested in the series), but nobody cared until all this.

It’s literally a pyramid scheme. Trans “recruit” other people to be trans so they’re lonely together. Except in this pyramid nobody wins, and the people making the money are big pharma
"Mother hen" is one of the creepiest Reddit trans things I read about (besides the autogynephiles of course), they literally go out of their way to find "eggs" to "hatch"...
 
I love our new AGP friend with the Charles Manson smile! This is what he said under a response he got to the r/transpassing post @Peaches Demure linked.

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This is like the third time I've said this, but so many of these guys don't even finish Step One before diving right into the body altering chemicals! Maybe I'll learn makeup... maybe I'll think about my hairline and glasses... Dude, you didn't want to look into any of this before taking cross sex hormones for six months?!
Don't understand jumping straight into being trans and not starting with something like being a trap. Maybe it's because being a convincing trap takes actually effort that none of these mtf want to bother making.

I also find it really funny that it seems traps get more actual acceptances online than trans and I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons that trans seem to seethe so much over traps.
 
I still don't care about the segment that just goes about their lives feeling content after transitioning and isn't bothering anyone, but my goodness the perpetually online constantly whining make the whole group look terrible.
yeah, no one really minds ones that are stealth or unclockable, who acknowledge their birth sex, who disclose their trans status before dating or fucking someone, who calls out the rapey behavior of others in the community and the attack on women's rights etc. aka trying to blend in to society. at this point they are a unicorn! a unicorn you'd probably never hear about or meet.

edit: never met a TIM like this. i've known TIFs that were more or less like this, but they were also kind of crazy in other ways.

The ones online seem obsessed with acting like a "proper women" and seem to root liking traditionally girly things as secretly meaning they are a transwoman, even if a bunch of them entirely miss the mark actually acting like one. I have no idea how they can champion things like "reject gender norms!!!" while also having the most strict views on what a man or woman can/can't like.
it's literally all about the appearance, the womanly essence, the sex, having tampons in their bag, whatever the fuck else.
most women learned how to do makeup as children, or don't wear it. "girly shit" barely matters to women. it's alienating.
like you said, the trooning out is just a cover for their behavior. now they "can't be misogynist" and their rage is "ladylike".

trans women don't want to be treated "just like any other woman". they want to be treated like special queens.
womanhood has people denying you shit and calling you an ugly cunt. trans women wither at that, women take it.
they think anything less than worship is unacceptable. the ego, fetishes, and mental illnesses are out of control.
 
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To be fair, I've seen some online gay discourse (including in, but not limited to, the old GenderCritical and LGBDropTheT subreddits no less) where people (mainly lesbians) will wallow in the idea that finding out a romantic interest is straight (or bisexual and enters a straight relationship after yours) is some very, very, special, significant kind of different pain from all the different kinds of rejection and romantic failure straight people experience.
It is different in some respects, lesbians hear a lot that they're just going through a phase and their orientation isn't real. It's true for a lot of women who experiment with women, since almost all women are at least a little bi, but for a woman who is actually exclusively interested in women, it's really unpleasant to be under this kind of constant pressure. So when they have a girlfriend that leaves for a man, it causes them to despair of ever finding a partner, especially if the bi girl strung them along beforehand.

Now all their spaces and dating apps are overrun by psychotic crossdressers so they're trapped between a rock and a hard place. Of course, the gender industry has a ready-made solution for them: troon out and become a man! It's the only way to be happy! Don't worry about the hysterectomy and rotting flesh tube dick.
 
I also find it really funny that it seems traps get more actual acceptances online than trans and I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons that trans seem to seethe so much over traps.
They do. They also hate femboys who take estrogen for aesthetic purposes (but still identify as men) for this reason too. 0XCAFEBEEF on Twitter is a lolcow in his own right but the backlash he gets from bitter non-passers is pretty funny.
 
I know we're the farms and normies lump us in with 4chan/dismiss us as toxic trolls, but this thread is so full of genuine information and intelligent discussion. I too am here for the lols and to be able to call men he/him without being cancelled, but I also appreciate the more thoughtful posts from the wide range of people who congregate here. Trannies really are a uniting force

I’d wager there are just as many r/GenderCritical or LGBT forum refugees here as there is anyone else. The idea that we’re all WhItE aLt-RiGhT NaHtSeEs is far from the truth, we just think the genderbeasts and troons deserve a touch of bullying. Bullying is like the geologic stress required to make diamonds, these losers are just lumpy charcoal who never gained the social aptitude to navigate life without cooming to anime porn and screeching online 24/7
 
I can't find the post in this thread (Jesus, it's moved fast in the past few days) but a recent poster expressed worry that the over-the-top pressure of the trans movement will hurt people's perceptions of ordinary gays and lesbians.

That's a possibility, but I think it may also have the opposite effect with some people and make homosexuality easier to accept. Like, the straight guy will look at the gay guy and go "OK, you're gay, and that's weird to me, but we both agree that whatever the hell Yaniv is doing is fucked up." It gives different people an area of commonality.

The LGB response to the Superstraight stuff shows that there's a lot of people out there who just want to grill on a weekend with their committed wife/husband/spouse and dog. Everyone's getting a very valuable lesson in why you shouldn't politicize your kinks and shove them onto other people ... because you end up acting like that asshole over there. Mainstream LGBT acceptance in America is down, partially because of clowns like Yaniv and Bicycle Professor, but if the LGB (and the saner Ts) can separate from the really loony loud Ts, then straight and gay might have a better chance of getting along.

If we can all just agree to say "OK, your thing is a little weird to me, but you do you, just don't be a jerk about it," then we'd be in a pretty good place.

Too bad it's 2021. RIP common sense.
 
Don't understand jumping straight into being trans and not starting with something like being a trap. Maybe it's because being a convincing trap takes actually effort that none of these mtf want to bother making.

I also find it really funny that it seems traps get more actual acceptances online than trans and I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons that trans seem to seethe so much over traps.

as someone who occasionally traps and almost underwent transition, it is very much time consuming and a lot of upkeep. from keeping your body in shape (exercise and diet) to skin/hair care to hair REMOVAL to actually learning how to apply makeup, it takes a lot to make a man look like a woman; it takes certain drag queens who try to pass as closely as possible 2-3+ hours in order to get everything ready and together. and that's just to construct the "look" for the evening.

most AGP troons are lazy manchildren, so the idea of putting in any effort to pass is beyond them, especially now that self-ID is becoming more and more the norm. it's also why all of their rooms are dirty and their "aesthetics" are downright horrendous & lazy too... motherfckers will shop at JC Penny and get the ugliest, dumpiest grandma shit with no regard to any sort of decent fashion sense.

traps get praised because they actually put the effort in to look feminine WHILE not trying to claim to be something they're not; for the most part, most of them (myself included) know that we're all just a bunch of faggots that like to look pretty.
 
Don't understand jumping straight into being trans and not starting with something like being a trap. Maybe it's because being a convincing trap takes actually effort that none of these mtf want to bother making.

I also find it really funny that it seems traps get more actual acceptances online than trans and I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons that trans seem to seethe so much over traps.
I have more respect for traps because they know they're men and expect to be treated like men and not to be given access to women's spaces. They’re still pervs, but you know what? They admit it.
Trans people prefer to demand special treatment and deny anything that might imply they are anything less than angels.

Edit: I should mention I don't respect the "taking estrogen in a deranged attempt to preserve their youth" aspect of traps/femboys or whatever. It's like the extreme result of the obsession with youth among some aspects of gay culture. Trying to look cute is not worth your endocrine system.
 
I can't find the post in this thread (Jesus, it's moved fast in the past few days) but a recent poster expressed worry that the over-the-top pressure of the trans movement will hurt people's perceptions of ordinary gays and lesbians.

That's a possibility, but I think it may also have the opposite effect with some people and make homosexuality easier to accept. Like, the straight guy will look at the gay guy and go "OK, you're gay, and that's weird to me, but we both agree that whatever the hell Yaniv is doing is fucked up." It gives different people an area of commonality.

The LGB response to the Superstraight stuff shows that there's a lot of people out there who just want to grill on a weekend with their committed wife/husband/spouse and dog. Everyone's getting a very valuable lesson in why you shouldn't politicize your kinks and shove them onto other people ... because you end up acting like that asshole over there. Mainstream LGBT acceptance in America is down, partially because of clowns like Yaniv and Bicycle Professor, but if the LGB (and the saner Ts) can separate from the really loony loud Ts, then straight and gay might have a better chance of getting along.

If we can all just agree to say "OK, your thing is a little weird to me, but you do you, just don't be a jerk about it," then we'd be in a pretty good place.

Too bad it's 2021. RIP common sense.
That was me, and I think it's a 50/50 chance that this will either actually be good for LGBs or bad. Only one way to find out and that's to just watch this trainwreck continue.
 
i think the tide is going towards drop the T, as opposed to hating gay people more and siding with trans ideology to the end.
even far right conservatives have some gay people they accept. fundies are the only ones left who are reliably homophobic.
no one likes trannies though, it's pure toleration. in first world countries, i think LGB(...t) is the saner option to go back to.

edit: i think the LGB, and wider society, will distance themselves from trans ideology and have a reckoning in idk. two decades.
sadly it's not going to happen for several years, because the cult has a ton of mileage left. but, i have hope that it will happen.
people will look back at some of this shit with horror, especially when they have any kind of chance to troon out/meet troons.
 
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I feel like this is the mutant child of racial preference discourse on gay apps from some years ago.
Gay men used to bluntly state #NoBlacksNoAsians (as well as #NoFemmesNoFats), and there have been countless stinkpieces/campaigns about the evils of excluding certain races from one's dating pool (I'm a racial minority myself and I never saw this as a problem, mind you. If a guy states what races he is into and I am not it, that just tells me to keep it popping, so neither of us wastes his time.).
If the point was to be less rude about it then sure whatever, but you can tell some people thought that this endless whining would actually expand their dating pool. In truth not much has changed imo. People still fetishize and/or exclude certain races, they're just not as upfront about it.
It's likely the same for troons. TRA in the streets, TERF in the sheets and all that. Everyone's pretending that sexuality is based on gendah, while tacitly only pursuing "cis" partners.
I'm the same way, it's not really worth taking it too heart but often times these kind of people always do. The minority gays are upset they can't get 10/10 gay white men, the troons are upset they can't get cis partners. They use their victimhood and minority status as a shield whilst screeching drivel and everyone lets them get away with it and it's literally just going to get worse.
 
I’m certain the reason why his junk is so visible in that dress is not due to size but rather... “gender euphoria”. The way troons get so enabled like this in left wing spaces is part of why I no longer consider myself on the left.

Former leftist here. Kind of embarrassed to admit it. Like my political convictions were so shaky that they eventually crumbled. But I considered myself an anarchist for a good 25 years.

Started to see cracks in the foundation post-Occupy, when the left all but abandoned economic principles and class consciousness in favor of some of the most insidious (and in my opinion, obvious) government/corporate psyops, including but not limited to:

- an aesthetic and performative opposition to "fascism" as opposed to tyranny in general. Fascism here being both broadly and precisely defined: it includes internet shitposters with frog avatars, but not oppressive state regimes and corporate conglomerates.
- a consoomer culture embrace of "woke" media, and the accompanying critiques of "problematic" media. A girl in a bikini is sexist and designed for the male gaze, but a tranny threeway "subverts tropes" and is liberating.
- tech-utopia, childfree, "live in the pod" bullshit. Alienation as virtue.
- Mass support for censorship and deplatforming. Shunning those who could have made for fantastic allies (ie: "right-wing" populists).
- The embrace of the science religion (secular sharia) and the accompanying mockery of those individuals leftists consider low-hanging fruit ("anti-vaxxers", "anti-maskers", and so on).
- Identity politics in general. Weird racial shit plus all the pro-porn trans nonsense.

Leftists now only discuss economic policy when it can be tied into something listed above. "We need free healthcare........ so men can get vaginas."

What's interesting, and something leftists hate to admit, is that their insane social views can only exist and continue to be propagated within a heavily-policed environment that crushes and scrubs dissent. They openly support authority as long as it suits their ends. Glenn Greenwald noted this in one of his latest pieces. How the "anti-authoritarian" "defund the police" crowd cheered "ironically" as Biden was installed by the military behind razor wire.

If websites like Reddit and Twitter and Facebook opened themselves up to free speech, ideologies like trannyism would be annihilated. Not by a brigade of "TERFs" or "right-wingers" or what have you, but by overwhelming numbers of normal ass people who have simply had enough of the troomer lunacy. But instead, this movement remains linked to the government / corporate / media / pharmaceutical complex and will continue to be shoved down our throats (no pun intended) for years to come.
 
Put as much energy into ME as your hobbies and interests, say the narcissists.
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Instead make things up to make yourself more comfortable. The Troon mantra.
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These were posted by this lovely man they/them:
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His opinion on the quality of that book series conveniently changed when Rowling was revealed as a radfem.

The funniest part about the JK Rowling thing is she isn't even technically a "radfem" (I think she described herself as a centrist or something in the past), she just followed a few Gender Criticals on Twitter (one being Fionne Orlander, who is...literally a transwoman??) and acknowledged the existence of biological sex in her manifesto

I'm one of those people who got called a TERF and then dove down the rabbithole based on that. I don't consider myself a "radical" anything, but apparently thinking that women are female is a radical feminist position so here we are.

The troons manufacture their own enemies by being spiteful retards. That's why I love the superstraight BS so much... It's eminently reasonable, but is just enough bait for the troon mask to slip and it is glorious.
 
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