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it.... doesn't get much more insane than this

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edit: this is apparently a real problem to these people, i came across another such argument just 5 minutes later.
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Is anyone watching the unfolding situation where a stunning and brave trans woman of color was caught faking being kidnapped and now GoFundMe is refunding thousands to everyone who donated to his cosmetic surgery funds?
 
Here's the info I have so far on the scam fiasco. Even tranny stans are accepting the whole thing was a scam, but still not ready to admit that this is typical tranny behavior. The difference is that other trannies can usually get away with grifting. Sai's mistake was trying to scheme something as grand as a kidnapping ransom without enough brains to pull it off.

Archive of Twitter thread where a friend of Sai announces the "kidnapping" (original tweets were deleted)

Alleged text screenshot where friends of Sai seem to know its a scam and don't want involvement. | (archive)
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Some screenshots of Sai's previous GoFundMe campaigns. | (archive)

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Recording from acquaintances explaining the situation from their POV | (archive)

A written compilation of events prior to 1 PM EST 17 Feb 2021 pertaining to the "kidnapping" | (archive)

Actual GoFundMe pages that I can find: (Not finding much so far, GFM may have removed them)

Help Sai Start Their New Life | (archive)

Help a Black trans woman FFS, SRS, & survival | (archive)
 
scathefire said:
This has probably been discussed before within the almost 2000 page backlog of this thread, but it confuses me what exactly non-binary trans people want to accomplish by transitioning, via HRT and otherwise. So you're saying that you don't want to be a woman, but you do want the secondary sex characteristics of a woman, as well as a vagina? Same thing with female non-binaries, some of them will take HRT and grow beards for some reason even though they insist that they don't want to be men. There's this former friend of mine whose twitter feed that I still read, and apparently he identifies as non-binary now and also says he wants to convince his nurse practitioner to start giving him estrogen. And for some reason. Jim Sterling also went on estrogen despite that he identifies as a "non-binary genderfuck" or whatever.
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So I'm going to try to explain the FtNB standpoint as someone who went there and cringes about it. Of course, this may not actually make sense, because it doesn't and is all just coddled mental illness.
The women who identify as nonbinary (and not the trendy ones) usually start with some sort of dysphoria (compared to the men who just want to wear makeup and harass lesbians, or use it as a midpoint before going full Mtf). It's almost always about their breasts, sometimes about being uncomfortable about gender roles.

Then, after you decide you're trans, you kinda have to make a decision - am I a trans man, or am I nonbinary? The big distinction is that almost always, there's no bottom dysphoria for the nonbinary ones, while there is for the FtMs. That's basically the difference.

But then, because you're so focused on your dysphoria (being trans is a 24/7 deal), even if you hide your breasts, you still don't feel as "correct" as you were told you should, and people still recognize you as a woman (which then means they know that you have women parts, and that's embarrassing and gross). And then you start thinking about all the other ways you're a woman. Maybe you start getting super self conscious about having a soprano voice that everyone will immediately recognize as a woman's voice, and then they'll KNOW that you have breasts and are a woman. Or maybe you want to grow a beard because then, nobody will ever suspect that you have woman parts. So then, testosterone time.

Really, it's mostly just about feeling ashamed of being a woman. Internalized misogyny, sexualization, or mental illness, or whatever, that's what it all boils down to. If people started saying that it's okay to be a woman and hate your boobs, then probably half of the nonbinaries would ditch.

(this is discounting the weird ones who do hrt so they can have a beard AND dress like a stripper. That's basically just a dangerous "fuck you mom" nose ring.)

Also, women detransitioners usually blame others because they've completely ruined their lives and everyone knows it. Men can go off estrogen and everything's fine, maybe some moobs that they can hide easily, but women will need to do substantial hair removal for a long time afterwards, plus their voices are shot. I usually see women lamenting their singing voices. It's a really big pill to swallow, knowing that everybody knows how much you fucked up. Plus, the trans community is a cult that will bribe you in, so in some ways they're not really wrong: they were, in some sense, manipulated into doing it. Of course, it was ultimately their decision, but when you're young and everyone you know is telling you that you'll kill yourself without testosterone, you start to believe them. Also, women detransitioners tend to get death threats from the trans community, so it's easy to see where malice towards them comes from.

And, it's very hard to get therapy to try to overcome dysphoria. Most therapists just send you straight back to a gender clinic, and I think it might even be illegal in some states for a therapist to try to help. So the issues persist.

Like I said, this may not have made any sense, but I'm also trying to explain a mental illness. I consider dysphoria a version of OCD in some ways - how would you logically explain, "I have to touch this doorknob five times or my family will die"?
 
66andtwothirds said:
it.... doesn't get much more insane than this

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edit: this is apparently a real problem to these people, i came across another such argument just 5 minutes later.
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I think the ultimate solution to this is to just stop caring what people call you. As in, people saying that you're a terf but just reacting like "I don't care what you call me, there is no word in existence that you could call me which would automatically invalidate my positions and what I have to say about you". Calling people with views you don't like terfs or transphobes is not an argument. If anything, it just shows that you no other way of defending yourself and your positions besides name-calling.
 
Inventor of the Telephone said:
Such as? How would she translate her video critiques into action?


She's awkward and a bit funky-looking, so it doesn't look like she's going the lust-provoking thot route.


So her whole fanbase is dudes and you're upset that she's liking comments by... dudes. Dude. Is she pointedly ignoring female commenters? Maybe offer an example comparison of the slighted female comments vs the validated male comments? (I'm sorry that mommy ignored your contributions.)
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She could always protest or sign petitions.
 
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literal autist said:
She could always protest or sign petitions. And despite being unattractive she seems to have garnered a lot of simps.
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literal autist said:
And if she actually wants to stop the trannies, why doesn’t she go out and do something instead of sitting at home and making videos seething about them? It’s clear she wants to garner simps
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What is your fucking problem with her? Why do you have to constantly bring up the fact you think she's ugly? How someone looks shouldn't define on what they can do. And go fuck yourself for saying that she needs to hide her face, just because you don't like how she looks. You almost sound like a troon with your dislike of her making the videos she does.

And you know what happens when women try to protest out on the street? The troon brigade shows up to intimidate and to assault these women who speak out against it. So it's safer for her to speak out on YouTube, and you know what, I'm glad that she shows her face, especially if it pisses people like you off that she has a platform and gets a lot of views. And I'm glad that males like her videos, because women need men's help in the fight against the troon movement.

You read this thread. You should see on here the amount of hate and vitriol that women receive from TRAs for speaking out against them. Whenever women try to organize an event that talks on issues of gender and sex, and which are for only women, they receive so many threats that they have to hire security and body guards for the women attending and speaking at these events. The TRAs also try to keep the event from even happening, by intimidating and threatening the people who allow the women to use their building as the location for their talks.

So, I applaud for Vanessa for speaking out and not trying to hide her identity, especially because I know she receives many rape and death threats for doing. And I hope that her videos help women and men to peak trans, and see the troon movement as what it is, a cult and trying to take away women's rights.
 
bored loser said:
So I'm going to try to explain the FtNB standpoint as someone who went there and cringes about it. Of course, this may not actually make sense, because it doesn't and is all just coddled mental illness.

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That made a lot of sense, actually. I can sort of see the logic, twisted as it is. It's just sad how many women hate being women.

Strabysmal said:
now GoFundMe is refunding thousands to everyone who donated to his cosmetic surgery funds?
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I am shocked to hear GFM is refunding, but it really made my day! At least there is still some sanity around.
 
Ethical Nightmare said:
What is your fucking problem with her? Why do you have to constantly bring up the fact you think she's ugly? How someone looks shouldn't define on what they can do. And go fuck yourself for saying that she needs to hide her face, just because you don't like how she looks. You almost sound like a troon with your dislike of her making the videos she does.

And you know what happens when women try to protest out on the street? The troon brigade shows up to intimidate and to assault these women who speak out against it. So it's safer for her to speak out on YouTube, and you know what, I'm glad that she shows her face, especially if it pisses people like you off that she has a platform and gets a lot of views. And I'm glad that males like her videos, because women need men's help in the fight against the troon movement.

You read this thread. You should see on here the amount of hate and vitriol that women receive from TRAs for speaking out against them. Whenever women try to organize an event that talks on issues of gender and sex, and which are for only women, they receive so many threats that they have to hire security and body guards for the women attending and speaking at these events. The TRAs also try to keep the event from even happening, by intimidating and threatening the people who allow the women to use their building as the location for their talks.

So, I applaud for Vanessa for speaking out and not trying to hide her identity, especially because I know she receives many rape and death threats for doing. And I hope that her videos help women and men to peak trans, and see the troon movement as what it is, a cult and trying to take away women's rights.
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Jesus calm the fuck the fuck down dude. I already said I agree with her. I am a women myself. Criticizing aspects of her persona doesn’t mean I “hate” her. I only mentioned her appearance in that post because someone else did. And I never said she “needs” to hide her face, I just pointed out that she seems to be pandering to the /pol/ trad waifu simp crowd.

>inb4 dilate, ywnbaw
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literal autist said:
Jesus calm the fuck the fuck down dude. I already said I agree with her. I am a women myself. Criticizing aspects of her persona doesn’t mean I “hate” her. I only mentioned her appearance in that post because someone else did. And I never said she “needs” to hide her face, I just pointed out that she seems to be pandering to the /pol/ trad waifu simp crowd.

>inb4 dilate, ywnbaw
I actually have xx chromosomes but sure
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relevant username lol
 
Ethical Nightmare said:
What is your fucking problem with her? Why do you have to constantly bring up the fact you think she's ugly? How someone looks shouldn't define on what they can do. And go fuck yourself for saying that she needs to hide her face, just because you don't like how she looks. You almost sound like a troon with your dislike of her making the videos she does.

And you know what happens when women try to protest out on the street? The troon brigade shows up to intimidate and to assault these women who speak out against it. So it's safer for her to speak out on YouTube, and you know what, I'm glad that she shows her face, especially if it pisses people like you off that she has a platform and gets a lot of views. And I'm glad that males like her videos, because women need men's help in the fight against the troon movement.

You read this thread. You should see on here the amount of hate and vitriol that women receive from TRAs for speaking out against them. Whenever women try to organize an event that talks on issues of gender and sex, and which are for only women, they receive so many threats that they have to hire security and body guards for the women attending and speaking at these events. The TRAs also try to keep the event from even happening, by intimidating and threatening the people who allow the women to use their building as the location for their talks.

So, I applaud for Vanessa for speaking out and not trying to hide her identity, especially because I know she receives many rape and death threats for doing. And I hope that her videos help women and men to peak trans, and see the troon movement as what it is, a cult and trying to take away women's rights.
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They won't even show mercy if you're a 60 year old woman
 
goyangi said:
Autistic, severely emotionally stunted mtf troon who is obsessed with anime and has a narcissistic streak with an over-inflated ego over running a meme account based off someone else's character that got lucky because it struck gold with troons? Why am I not surprised?

Bonus points for being an "artist" and a "writer", screaming at every chance he can that he's a ReAL leSbiaN, being a CS major, disappointing his parents, almost dropping out of school, fetishizing underage anime Japanese schoolgirl lesbians, being a massive weeb (I don't know what it is with SEAs and being gigantic, unapologetic weebs) and looking like...this. Extra bonus points for dying his hair like his favorite bang! dream girl, and typing like an autist trying to rp as an anime waifu (I guess that's what he is, though). Fuck, it's like a troon bingo.

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The giant mitt hands and blatant cone boobs are like the cherry on top. It's really impressive how troons, regardless of race, come as if they were pre-packaged and poured from a mold.
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PoisonedBun said:
Good news, JK Rowling finally killed Miku eBooks which is notoriously run by a troon and responsible for the 'Miku created Minecraft' meme:

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Read in full detail how Miku ebooks is a disappointment to his parents here. (archive)
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I just wanted to update ya'll that this person is a pedo apparently
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