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Neither do I. But ironically she has quite "new" ideas as an old feminist. I mean, she is a feminist that rejects the label "survivor" even though she was raped when she was young. She even said several times that she doesn't think that getting raped is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. With that she's already disagreeing with 99% of all feminists today. Greer, of course, never claimed that rape is good or not harmful. But she's right that a single incident of rape isn't as traumatic to women as it is often made to be. There are many statistics that back this up: A woman that has been raped once recovers from it over a decade. The most traumatic events of rape for women are incestuous rape (for example the father) and repetitive rape incidents.


How woke were you? And did you dewoke because you trans peaked?
It's basically same as experiencing any other serious form of violence. For example people get beaten up and get over it all the time. Some might get traumatized, either do sensitive personality or the situation managing to really hit home for some reason, but to most it's just one of those bad moments in life. It's not fun or good but ultimately whatever, learn what you can and move on. Getting beaten up repeatedly and/or by people who supposed to protect you other hand can really mess you up. Patterns of violence are worse than singular experiences.
 
I do enjoy boiling DoTheDrew's blood, even if it is just to share&care the increase of BP: Family Therapist shares her thoughts on homosexual men's "narrow" wordview of gay sexuality.
Loved the commentary, @Dr. Troon Lagoon! If this chica wasn't so batshit insane, I'd almost feel sorry for her.

She doesn't quite annoy me the way the other Aidens do, but in a way, she's almost more pernicious. It's that constant sleight-of-hand gently nudging the definitions and concepts to her own advantage.
 
What's the consensus here about HSTS? Can they also be autogynophilic?

Within my IRL inner circle, Rupaul's Drag Race is popular (gay people). I hate the show and think it kills my braincells, but I have still unfortunately seen enough of it to know several main players/storylines. So many of these guys show very clearly autogynophilic behaviours. Watch ANY of them on youtube. Trixie Mattel, Katya, Alyssa Edwards, Miz Cracker. When they do a makeup tutorial, they spend 80% of the time staring at themselves posing in the mirror, saying something along the lines of "I'm a REAL WOMAN. Do you ever look at yourself and go uuuuuggghhhhhhh that's a WOMAN" Trixie in particular does this. He is really turned on by himself.

Also, on the show they talk several times about having sex in drag. Katya talks about masturbating to himself in drag/taking sexual photos of himself in drag to masturbate to, etc. 90% of any contestant's perception of a woman (excluding the top 10% with more than two braincells who try to be funny) is "I'm a sexy dirty sluuuuutttt!! I'm going to suck dick because I'm a sluuuuuuutttttty bitch!" Courtney, the "fishy" one who "passes as a bio queen" (imagine a barbie head on a ken body), admitted that he had a "lesbian" threesome with two women - in drag.

There are so many gay guys who are just regular guys. (most of) These drag queens are definitely living their fetish for money.
 
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Is this guy wearing a wig?
 
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Is this guy wearing a wig?
Yes. Most likely a lace front wig, which are much more convincing than a standard wig.

Here's what they look like:
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You cut the lace to where your hairline is, and because of how they're made, unlike other wigs, you can part the hair anywhere, and it will still look convincing. They aren't cheap either obviously, especially since they're made of real hair and not synthetic material.
 
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Is this guy wearing a wig?
What's hilarious is that most women who are his age wouldn't wear a belly shirt IRL, let alone a white one (which is probably see-through).

It's basically same as experiencing any other serious form of violence. For example people get beaten up and get over it all the time. Some might get traumatized, either do sensitive personality or the situation managing to really hit home for some reason, but to most it's just one of those bad moments in life. It's not fun or good but ultimately whatever, learn what you can and move on. Getting beaten up repeatedly and/or by people who supposed to protect you other hand can really mess you up. Patterns of violence are worse than singular experiences.
Meh, you don't get pregnant or get an STD from being punched in the face.

In some cultures, a rape victim will be pushed to marry her rapist "for family honor".
 
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It's basically same as experiencing any other serious form of violence. For example people get beaten up and get over it all the time. Some might get traumatized, either do sensitive personality or the situation managing to really hit home for some reason, but to most it's just one of those bad moments in life. It's not fun or good but ultimately whatever, learn what you can and move on. Getting beaten up repeatedly and/or by people who supposed to protect you other hand can really mess you up. Patterns of violence are worse than singular experiences.
I would argue that there is a bit more trauma in being forcefully penetrated than being 'beaten up'. Things involving sexuality in general seem to have weird repercussions on the human psyche. Being raped can horribly alter one's self-perception, especially if they were young or already not terribly well-adjusted by the time it took place.

That being said, I agree that treating rape and the single most terrible fate to possibly befall someone probably isn't all that helpful. It's a despicable act done by complete scumbags, but victims can often recover live healthy and fulfilling lives afterwards. In some ways I think some of the psychological damage of rape is somewhat reinforced by the social messaging around how awful said psychological damage is and how if you're raped your basically guaranteed to be mentally scarred for the rest of your life.
 
Meh, you don't get pregnant or get an STD from being punched in the face.

In some cultures, a rape victim will be pushed to marry her rapist "for family honor".
But you can left permanently disabled or in chronic pain. Those results beyond sucking on their own, can mean you can't no longer do your current job, maybe leave you unable to work at all. We all know what inability to support yourself financially can mean both socially and lifestyle wise.

I'm not here to play witch one is the worst, especially not when speculating about potential bad outcomes that may or may not happen, that wasn't the point. Point was going trough something awful like rape or getting beaten up doesn't automatically mean permanent mental issues. They are bad experiences for sure and can traumatize but many times just don't. People can go trough something like that and come out with so minimal damage that it doesn't affect them in long term at all. Even those that have lingering issues can work on them and do get past them. Our culture seems to able to see those possibilities when people are victims in other situations like robberies, fights and bulling but some reason rape is super extra nothing is ever the same?
 
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It's basically same as experiencing any other serious form of violence. For example people get beaten up and get over it all the time.
There is a world of difference from getting beaten up to being raped. And rapes can be extremely violent, especially if the rapist is a sadist or the anger retaliatory rapist, who get either excited by your pain and degradation or enraged when you try to fight back, so therefore increase the violence. Not to mention when someone beats you they aren't always trying to kill you, but with a rape, the threat of death is extremely real and can definitely happen. Whether they kill you because it's part of the thrill to completely control their victim, or they're afraid of you pressing charges against them and getting caught. And there is a possibility of horrible permanent body damage due to rapes, especially if they use foreign objects.

Rape is not the same thing as being beaten. Trust me, ask anyone, and they'd all say they'd rather take a beating than to be raped. Rape is not trivial, and is not something people should just get over. It's extremely traumatizing, even if it's not particularly violent. And it's even more traumatizing when it's done by a person that you thought you could trust, and someone who you have to see and be around after the rape. And many victims are afraid of speaking out, because of the attitudes of "well you should have been able to fight them off" or "you just need to get over it, it wasn't that bad" or being called an outright liar. They might also not be able to speak out because their rapist is someone in a high position of power, or have been threatened by their rapist if they try to speak out. And every rapist has multiple people who they've raped. They are predators of opportunity, and if they can't find a victim that matches their preference, well, the next person they encounter will have to do, whether that's an old person, child, or maybe even someone of the opposite sex. They really don't care.

And while some victims of rape appear to have gotten over it, they still might have problems that other people can't see. Maybe they never go out at night anymore. Maybe they avoid certain places or don't go out unless they have someone else with them. They're hyper vigilant of their surroundings. They might have a hard time getting close to men or forming intimate relationships. Some might not be able to live alone anymore.

Violence is bad, yes. But sexual violence is on a whole different level than physical violence, whether it happens once, or repeatedly.
 
What's the consensus here about HSTS? Can they also be autogynophilic?

Within my IRL inner circle, Rupaul's Drag Race is popular (gay people). I hate the show and think it kills my braincells, but I have still unfortunately seen enough of it to know several main players/storylines. So many of these guys show very clearly autogynophilic behaviours. Watch ANY of them on youtube. Trixie Mattel, Katya, Alyssa Edwards, Miz Cracker. When they do a makeup tutorial, they spend 80% of the time staring at themselves posing in the mirror, saying something along the lines of "I'm a REAL WOMAN. Do you ever look at yourself and go uuuuuggghhhhhhh that's a WOMAN" Trixie in particular does this. He is really turned on by himself.

Also, on the show they talk several times about having sex in drag. Katya talks about masturbating to himself in drag/taking sexual photos of himself in drag to masturbate to, etc. 90% of any contestant's perception of a woman (excluding the top 10% with more than two braincells who try to be funny) is "I'm a sexy dirty sluuuuutttt!! I'm going to suck dick because I'm a sluuuuuuutttttty bitch!" Courtney, the "fishy" one who "passes as a bio queen" (imagine a barbie head on a ken body), admitted that he had a "lesbian" threesome with two women - in drag.

There are so many gay guys who are just regular guys. (most of) These drag queens are definitely living their fetish for money.
Drag queens are overwhelmingly not trans. They use female pronouns and say shit like "I'm a woman!" purely for camp purposes. Even if they get a boner from the sight of themselves in drag, they're still gay men. I don't think they're really relevant to discussions of troonery.

I don't watch Drag Race but I am aware there's been some controversy about whether to let troon drag queens participate in the show. That just underscores my point: drag isn't about troonery at all, and the gay guys doing it don't want anything to do with troons.
 
There is a world of difference from getting beaten up to being raped. And rapes can be extremely violent, especially if the rapist is a sadist or the anger retaliatory rapist, who get either excited by your pain and degradation or enraged when you try to fight back, so therefore increase the violence. Not to mention when someone beats you they aren't always trying to kill you, but with a rape, the threat of death is extremely real and can definitely happen. Whether they kill you because it's part of the thrill to completely control their victim, or they're afraid of you pressing charges against them and getting caught. And there is a possibility of horrible permanent body damage due to rapes, especially if they use foreign objects.

Rape is not the same thing as being beaten. Trust me, ask anyone, and they'd all say they'd rather take a beating than to be raped. Rape is not trivial, and is not something people should just get over. It's extremely traumatizing, even if it's not particularly violent. And it's even more traumatizing when it's done by a person that you thought you could trust, and someone who you have to see and be around after the rape. And many victims are afraid of speaking out, because of the attitudes of "well you should have been able to fight them off" or "you just need to get over it, it wasn't that bad" or being called an outright liar. They might also not be able to speak out because their rapist is someone in a high position of power, or have been threatened by their rapist if they try to speak out. And every rapist has multiple people who they've raped. They are predators of opportunity, and if they can't find a victim that matches their preference, well, the next person they encounter will have to do, whether that's an old person, child, or maybe even someone of the opposite sex. They really don't care.

And while some victims of rape appear to have gotten over it, they still might have problems that other people can't see. Maybe they never go out at night anymore. Maybe they avoid certain places or don't go out unless they have someone else with them. They're hyper vigilant of their surroundings. They might have a hard time getting close to men or forming intimate relationships. Some might not be able to live alone anymore.

Violence is bad, yes. But sexual violence is on a whole different level than physical violence, whether it happens once, or repeatedly.
I'm in no way saying that rape isn't bad or it can't be traumatic. Of course it's bad but I don't think it's that special. I have seen people after fights and especially after getting ganged up on. It can be incredibly brutal and awful, and others are far from automatically understanding or without questions. Their actions also get scrutinized and as do their responses to the situations. Just recently three adult transwomen attacked a teen boy over saying something transphobic and the judge was very lenient and sympathetic to trannies because of the bad words. Witch were "You’re not a woman – you need a fanny to be a woman".
 
I'm latching on to this in hope of helping us move on from the rape discussion.

I used to watch Drag Race. It's dumb fun, but there's just too much of it now to keep up with. The question of having trannies on the show is an interresting one: it goes to the question of which is better, seeing yourself represented on TV, or hiding from the world how awful you actually are?

Gia Gunn and Carmen Carrera are two drag queens who went full time trans after being on the show. Pictures will show how much better they are at passing than the typical AGP, even though something might still look off about them.

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Anyway, they're both completely insane, and do nothing but bring scorn and controversy to trans visibility. In 2019 they had a huge public fight. I'm telling the story because it shows that they can be crueler to each other than we kiwis could ever hope to be. The fight started because Gia called Carmen a faggot to her face. Then there was some boring backstabbing stuff. Then Carmen released some of Gia's texts. The things they say to each other! This is the final bit of Gia (who's had her tits done but not bottom surgery) texting to Carmen (who's had both).

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If you're interested in seeing two trannies rip each other to shreds while calling each other "love," you can read the full exchange here.

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We gotta thank Carmen for helping peak trans a ton of black folks a while back:
They're both right about each other.
Gia always seemed like a bully and Carmen is delusional.
 
I'm in no way saying that rape isn't bad or it can't be traumatic. Of course it's bad but I don't think it's that special. I have seen people after fights and especially after getting ganged up on. It can be incredibly brutal and awful, and others are far from automatically understanding or without questions. Their actions also get scrutinized and as do their responses to the situations. Just recently three adult transwomen attacked a teen boy over saying something transphobic and the judge was very lenient and sympathetic to trannies because of the bad words. Witch were "You’re not a woman – you need a fanny to be a woman".
Your answer is callous and obviously you've never experienced, nor seen how victims of rape look afterwards, nor had anyone close to you experience rape. While it sucks the 19 year old young man got beaten up by three trannies, he could just have easily have ignored them and not said anything them. He, instead, decided he must instead antagonize the trannies. Most people have the common sense of not telling a stranger something that could enrage them (even if it's true) because the potential for them to retaliate is a very real possibility. You wouldn't go up to a black guy, call him a nigger, then expect for him to not have an angry reaction to it.

Rape victims do nothing to provoke, nor antagonize their rapists. Telling someone "no" is not provoking or antagonizing someone. However, going up to strangers who were otherwise ignoring you, and not bothering you, and intentionally saying something that you know would anger them, is provoking them. Yes, they should have just walked away, but again, the young man didn't have to interact with them at all, but decided to instead. So I really don't feel too much sympathy for his plight, considering the trannies weren't doing anything to him.
 
Pictures will show how much better they are at passing than the typical AGP,
Wut??? The first picture is heavily photoshopped and the second guy is obviously male. His body is still MASSIVE compared to a woman's body and his face is obviously male too.

Better at passing than agps? Nope. They don't pass at all.
 
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