WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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QwahlityKahntent said:
well guys the judge, i mean, ear specialist said i need about 60k for ear surgery or i'm going to go permanently deaf. i need you all to step up right now. i need that money, i really do
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The only appropriate response to that would be: "Gee, looks like you should have held onto that vest money instead of wasting it on wrestling jpegs, huh? Get fucked, dumbass."
 
"You have drank the Kool-Aid, and with zero actual evidence (but just a ton of circumstantial stuff that still proves nothing), you've condemned me.

How about this: Wake up from this insanity, and mind your own damn business. If you can't separate conspiracy from fact, move on and stop watching my content, like so many already surely have. I don't have time to deal with daily delusions of a mob of gullible people who are intent on believing anything at all that's spun about me for a laugh.

But don't make a post like this on the site again, ever."
Just the thought of Phil typing this in a panic-stricken state and then walking away believing he handled the problem rationally is enough to make me laugh.
It doesn't matter if Moira even believes that Phil is really whaling for Scopely, I hope that this post alone is enough of an eye-opener. Imagine having someone you care about calling you insane for simply voicing your concerns and asking you to refute things that are FACTUALLY INCORRECT.
If at least one die-hard fan walks away from this abusive relationship, this entire thread will have been worth it.
EDIT: It's funny to look at the state of the KoH Forums and see Phil's activity on it (and by "activity" I mean lack thereof)
There are so many threads filled with criticism, questioning Phil's habits, and general discussion that Phil has completely ignored.
"This is why DSP is ostracized by so many people" (regarding him acting like a total asshole on Twitter)
"Why does Phil get so angry at video games?"
"How would you improve DSPGaming Youtube Channel?"
"Anyone else wish he wasn't so scared of Fightcade/Mugen/Experimentation?"
"What is DSP's long term goal?"
All of these are topics that aren't inherently negative and appear to be genuine attempts at discussing Phil's career, yet he has absolutely ghosted each and every one of them. The lifespan of these threads have ranged from days to months, and he hasn't responded to any of them.
Phil's most recent khantribution to his forum was the one where people criticized his Halloween marathon (to which he responded to like a mature adult by locking the thread after insulting everyone therein)
The time it took for him to respond to that thread? A little more than a week. Where am I going with this?
Phil's response to Mora's questioning over WWE Champions showed up a mere 10 hours after the original question, INCLUDING deleting every other post in the thread and locking it.
Hmmm, it's almost as if there appears to be more urgency regarding that specific topic? But why would something he's never heard of be more important than something like the state of his Youtube channel? :thinking:
 
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Sheikh Tranny Bin Banging said:
Can you name every app you used in the last 5 or so years?
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No, but I could definitely tell you if I've used an app' if you named it.

You say people are strawmaning you, but then you equate making an exhaustive list of the app's you've used in the last 5 years to answering the question "Have you used [This specific app'] ?"
 
Zappin’ And Spazzin’ said:
"You have drank the Kool-Aid, and with zero actual evidence (but just a ton of circumstantial stuff that still proves nothing), you've condemned me.

How about this: Wake up from this insanity, and mind your own damn business. If you can't separate conspiracy from fact, move on and stop watching my content, like so many already surely have. I don't have time to deal with daily delusions of a mob of gullible people who are intent on believing anything at all that's spun about me for a laugh.

But don't make a post like this on the site again, ever."
Just the thought of Phil typing this in a panic-stricken state and then walking away believing he handled the problem rationally is enough to make me laugh.
It doesn't matter if Moira even believes that Phil is really whaling for Scopely, I hope that this post alone is enough of an eye-opener. Imagine having someone you care about calling you insane for simply voicing your concerns and asking you to refute things that are FACTUALLY INCORRECT.
If at least one die-hard fan walks away from this abusive relationship, this entire thread will have been worth it.
EDIT: It's funny to look at the state of the KoH Forums and see Phil's activity on it (and by "activity" I mean lack thereof)
There are so many threads filled with criticism, questioning Phil's habits, and general discussion that Phil has completely ignored.
"This is why DSP is ostracized by so many people" (regarding him acting like a total asshole on Twitter)
"Why does Phil get so angry at video games?"
"How would you improve DSPGaming Youtube Channel?"
"Anyone else wish he wasn't so scared of Fightcade/Mugen/Experimentation?"
"What is DSP's long term goal?"
All of these are topics that aren't inherently negative and appear to be genuine attempts at discussing Phil's career, yet he has absolutely ghosted each and every one of them. The lifespan of these threads have ranged from days to months, and he hasn't responded to any of them.
Phil's most recent khantribution to his forum was the one where people criticized his Halloween marathon (to which he responded to like a mature adult by locking the thread after insulting everyone therein)
The time it took for him to respond to that thread? A little more than a week. Where am I going with this?
Phil's response to Mora's questioning over WWE Champions showed up a mere 10 hours after the original question, INCLUDING deleting every other post in the thread and locking it.
Hmmm, it's almost as if there appears to be more urgency regarding that specific topic? But why would something he's never heard of be more important than something like the state of his Youtube channel? :thinking:
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The fact that Phil so quickly jumped all over Moria when just about anything else is met with silence from him should say just as much to the rest of the tards as it should when he made them sit through downloading a patch and THEN took a break. The motherfucker doesn't appreciate a god damn one of you, that's why we're rooting against him. He is the most selfish ungrateful asshole I've seen in a long time, and he deserves to be abandoned by every single fan he now has. All of them.
 
We know you read the posts here Mora so let me ask on behalf of everyone here, did you really expect Phil to give you a honest answer in a public forum? Did you think that your thousands and thousands of posts and little dots next to your name entitled you to getting anything from him that wasn't deflection, subversion and non-sequiturs?
 
TheGoutburglar said:
The fact that Phil so quickly jumped all over Moria when just about anything else is met with silence from him should say just as much to the rest of the tards as it should when he made them sit through downloading a patch and THEN took a break. The motherfucker doesn't appreciate a god damn one of you, that's why we're rooting against him. He is the most selfish ungrateful asshole I've seen in a long time, and he deserves to be abandoned by every single fan he now has. All of them.
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We know that Phil doesn't like to respond to anything until he's prepared a string of deflections and damage control. We know that he doesn't indulge himself into a conversation unless he knows he has control over the opposition, whether it's the ability to block/ban someone or it's prefaced by plenty of "behind the scenes" dialogue like the Quartering interview. Phil's immediate response to MM is inarguably a display of panic, that something was said that struck close to home.
If nothing else, this post proves to us that Phil's default response to something, without having time to prepare, is to tug on the opposition's heart-strings, crying out like a puppy that got hurt play-fighting with its sibling. It also shows that WWE Champions is more important to Phil than his own career or viewerbase.
 
sharpie said:
I'm not a member of the KOH forums. Not sure why you all constantly think there is some hidden dsp fan club constantly combing through kiwifarms with sock puppet accounts ready to go to post. I'm literally just a guy who saw Phil via youtube videos like mighty d and that's 100% a lie. I checked out his stream and mostly stay for the chat. I'm not a fan of dsp nor am i a detractor.

As far as my opinion on the wwe champions saga thing, I'll say that while initially I was very skeptical about all of this as I am with most troll information, the line account thing is pushing me to the side where dsp and guild dsp are the same person. the line acc is tied to his old/possibly current phone number and he did say that he played the game before. So it's possible that the line account was created a long time ago by him for his old wwe champions usage. We don't know a creation date for that account do we?

Also, I'm starting to agree that if the fact that the wwe champions account was created several years ago is true, then it's unlikely the account is a troll. Also, as someone mentioned earlier, there would be no need for the troll to change his name once caught.

But yeah, I don't know when the line account was created. if it was created a long time ago phil could just say it was for his old wwe champions usage. if its created recently and tied with the new faction, then yes, i would assume it's him because the line app requires phone number verification. Also the globally unique discord id thing is convincing as well, assuming its true.
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But he didn't say its for his old wwe champions usage. He closed the door with that with his repeated and vehement denials that he knew what it was.
 
Zappin’ And Spazzin’ said:
"If you can't separate conspiracy from fact"
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If there's one thing I really fucking hate it's how people have come to misuse the term conspiracy and conspiracy theory because of 9/11 truthers. I guess you could technically argue DSP "conspired" with people in his guilds to play WWE Champions or with Scopely to change the name but that's still retarded af to call it a "conspiracy." Unless he's saying that us talking about it is all a conspiracy on our part to take him down, but it doesn't read that way to me.
 
Nixxit said:
No, but I could definitely tell you if I've used an app' if you named it.

You say people are strawmaning you, but then you equate making an exhaustive list of the app's you've used in the last 5 years to answering the question "Have you used [This specific app'] ?"
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That's what really cemented it for me. We all know Phil is a bad liar who can't plan ahead. He clearly wants to cover up that the account is his, so he's doing his usual lie, playing dumb about what it is.

I agree that it's certainly possible to forget about an app/account from years ago. But, once you name it, you'd remember. Especially if it was named online, when you have the chance to look up what it is. If I was being accused of using an app online and I didn't recognize it, I'd google the app, if for no other reason then to try and put the post into context. If Phil was just using it for another game or restaurant codes or whatever, he'd say that. If I remember my Phil lore correctly, he tried to do this with Discord after he was caught lying about not having an account. He tried to spin it as he did have an account, but he only used it to speak with his Twitch contact, because as we all know, professional companies always make Discord their only method of communication and certainly wouldn't use email.

This is the exact same situation. Phil lied about Discord because he didn't want it associated with Champions. If he ever accidentally reveals somewhere down the line he has Line, like he did with Discord, that's when he'll pull out the retcon that he used it once or twice and forgot about it because that was the only way to contact YouTube support or something random.

All that being said, I do agree it doesn't technically prove that Phil plays Champions, but the same can be said for some of the other individual pieces of evidence. But, when it is all piled together, it just helps support the bigger picture. If Phil had lied better and said from the start it was an old app, well, I still wouldn't believe him, but I could at least understand the doubt. In my mind, him lying and trying to bury it just makes me even more convinced it is Champions related.

I'll also add a reminder that Phil is bad with money and insanely lazy. Even if there were special promotions available through Line or any other app, I don't think he'd go through the effort of registering and activating an account. This is a guy who sank money into an unused condo for years, because he didn't want to rent it out since that would involve speaking to someone on the phone. And as for him changing his number, well, even after being doxed, he kept using the same username everywhere and continued to use the same hotmail email, even though, by his own words, people are using it to sign him up for all sorts of things.
 
I love that Phil spent 10-20 minutes writing out the standard "debunked" reply on his forum instead of spending 3 seconds showing his WWE champions account that he talked about playing several times in the past.

That is true addiction behaviour.
 
Let's be clear. It's a hearing that will probably be done in 15 minutes because Phil has not even appeared (via an attorney or response) at any point. MidFirst will walk in, ask for whatever they think they have even a chance of getting, and the judge will find in their favor.

The only real question is whether this will tee up a deficiency judgment that Midfirst can actually collect on.
Pretty Boy Extremism said:
Foreclosure trial for his CTKhando
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darkwingosonichugorl said:
It's because every guild does different things to be unique from other guilds, and Phil is probably the type that bounces around guilds frequently to be in the best one possible. I also had to install all these shitty apps over the years I played these mobile games, as well. It's entirely possible Phil forgot about LINE. I used it before years ago and I couldn't tell you a thing about it.
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Again, Why are people fixated on how he used it? The fact that he has it and its connected to his number is whats important. Okay lets assume he installed it and forgot about it? So? That he even has it in the first place shows that he was moobs deep with the guilds which shows he was hardcore about WWE Champions.


SauceRyuKen said:
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Roughly similar writing style, although Mora's is better punctuated. Sharpie's back to the thread now. And Mora basically makes all the points we made back then to Sharpie. Fair to say Mora reads here at the very least... Or Sharpie is Mora hiding his powerlevel. Optimistic, I know. Welp, you stay off your pignosis, man. It seems like all you paypigs always come crawling back to your master's gouty feet.

EDIT: To be honest, Phil's caught red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, dood. Not that he wasn't before, but this really is a nail in the coffin. Phil still has the same number, Phil has a Line account and it's under the TheyCallMeDSP name. Basically, going by Hanlon's razor, again... And Moria mentioned Hitchen's razor in his post when I mentioned Hanlon's to Sharpie before, lol...

This entirely rules out the possibility of it being a troll, leaving us with one possibility. The man with the phone number, that uses the weeaboo messaging app, that Phil doesn't even know about, shocker... Is likely to be linked to the WWEC account that has TheyCallMeDSP as a screen name. Just nut up and cook up some shitty sob story about your depression forcing you into adickshun, Pig. Not like the paypigs are gonna stop throwing their disability checks at you. Grace us with some Champions streams, let us know just how shit you are with money.

Simply put, the 0.5% chance Phil was clinging onto, the fact that it COULD be a super rich, limitless resources troll who could put SuperHound's autism to utter shame with 0 effort is fucking gone. If TheyCallMeDSP was indeed NotDSP, he'd have a different phone number for Line. If Phil isn't Rafters, then why does he have a Line account? And why is it called TheyCallMeDSP?
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Lets systematically lay out the conspiracies needed for phil to be innocent. I will try to be as far as possible and attempt to refrain from exaggeration and lay out the most plausible scenario if it is indeed a troll. Please call me out if I make any mistakes or missed something.

Troll I:
Some guy joins with an account TheyCallMeDSP. 1. If you believe his own words he has never heard of DSP and the name is just a massive coincidence. 2. He is a troll.
2a: Troll 1 spends 60-70k and puts in the equivalent of practically a real job in time committment and lies low for years in a bizarre attempt to get at phil or 2b he is just some former casual troll/fan who just named himself after dsp and did nothing with it and for some reason made this his primary account and will not come clean and say 'guys its just some stupid little gag I did when I was 15 like naming myself BillClinton007.'

Troll 1 somehow ensures his schedule fits with phil for at least a year and possibly longer everytime its randomly checked.
Is familiar enough to insert obscure dspisms and wording arrangements even detractors never mentioned specifically as far as I can see. In addition his writing style is similar enough to pass a machine learning analysis (Im not sure how much I trust this particular app until I see more testing but whatevs). Confirmed to have an iphone (perhaps even the same model as phil did). Even though the troll has firmly taking root, continues to spend thousands faster and faster. Cause. I dunno. I guess he finds this thread very funny? Or maybe it all backfired and he ended up becoming a gatcha addict in the attempt to frame poor fhil.

Troll II:
Lets be fair to Phil and assume this is a separate guy. The Discord leaker intensively combs through this thread. Troll II also has access to Phil's super secret mod Discord. So he's either a mod or a mod is leaking to him. He uses the WWE Champions Discord leaks pulled from this thread along with access to Phil's super secret mod Discord (that he lied about) to splice together and leak fake Discord screenshots containing information only a mod would know. These falsely show that Phil has the same avatar in his mod channel as Troll 1 does in the WWE Discord. So either Troll 1 is also Troll 2 or Troll 1 somehow knows what Phil's super secret mod Discord avatar is, or Troll 2 spliced it in. Troll 2 is also familiar enough with Discord and combs through the thread info enough to also fake the same ID number as the WWE Discord account. He also convinced or was lucky enough that at least one mod (Rumplestilskin) confirms at least the Discord chats were real.

Troll III: Is on the horn and grabs Phil's cell phone number as soon as it becomes available (according to what I've read its possible to get a custom cell phone number if you're on the same carrier but the possibility of getting a specific one varies depending on different factors). He gets super lucky and phil just happens to decide to change his phone number this month for some reason, which is the only time phil could have changed the number if you believe him. He also lucks out in Phil refusing to confirm that he changed his number which would torpedo his scheme. According to posts here. Phils voice message is still up so somehow not only did Troll III get the number transferred he also managed to somehow transfer the same voice mail message too. Instead of pulling any one of countless more direct trolls with phil's number that you could imagine he goes for a 4D big brained move. Having intimate knowledge of WWE Champions and armed with this new phone and number that he got specifically to troll phil he installs this obscure app nobody on this thread has brought up before to my knowledge that will link DSP indirectly to WWE. He is working directly with or is TJGameBox. Unless you believe they stumbled upon this galactic troll within a months time by pure happenstance. (Notice how I'm not including any scenario where Phil installs LINE and forgets about it like people are bringing up since I don't really see how that casts much doubt on his guilt)
 
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grump said:
But he didn't say its for his old wwe champions usage. He closed the door with that with his repeated and vehement denials that he knew what it was.
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Yeah which is odd. If I were him, I would just say that "Oh line? Idk why the trolls are talking about that. I used Line back when I was playing wwe champions a lot". To be fair, it's possible he just completely forgot about this account. But yeah I agree it's odd.

grump said:
Troll 1 somehow ensures his schedule fits with phil for at least a year and possibly longer everytime its randomly checked.
Is familiar enough to insert obscure dspisms and wording arrangements even detractors never mentioned specifically as far as I can see. In addition his writing style is similar enough to pass a machine learning analysis (Im not sure how much I trust this particular app until I see more testing but whatevs).
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I don't agree with the machine learning analysis thing if you're talking about the guy that posted the result of a powershell script comparing twitter text to dsp guild's messages. That tool he used ("Coeus") was nowhere to be found online, with regards to text analysis, at least from what I could find. While the rest of the evidence is at least somewhat reasonable, that one is not.
 
It's not odd because Phil is such a paranoid compulsive liar at this point that he feels he needs to lie about everything, even the most pedantic things.
 
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Let's be clear. It's a hearing that will probably be done in 15 minutes because Phil has not even appeared (via an attorney or response) at any point. MidFirst will walk in, ask for whatever they think they have even a chance of getting, and the judge will find in their favor.

The only real question is whether this will tee up a deficiency judgment that Midfirst can actually collect on.
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Its still gonna be an online meeting because covid right?
 
It doesn't matter if Phil later tries to retcon his denial, he has already fucked himself out of that being believable. I mean we weren't going to buy it anyway, but now it's more than just us being on to his bullshit. He came down HARD on this one, way too hard for it to be a nothingburger, and now even Moria sees it.

It isn't what Phil says in reaction to getting busted, it's in how he acts, and he's acting as guilty as he always does when the accusation is on point.
 
PieceofShet said:
Its still gonna be an online meeting because covid right?
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This one probably could be, yes.

Edit: And to answer the follow-up, it may be possible for Phil to finally show up for a hearing, but he would need an attorney at this point to actually defend himself. Given that he didn't bust out a sudden "gib me money and don't ask why" reeemergency begging stream, I'm not inclined to think he is doing that.
 
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