2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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babadook said:
Yet you continue to froth at the mouth lol

Jerking off made you blind, I don't have blue feet
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I'm having fun mining salt dude, lol. It takes a minute to type this shit, and research is fun.
But I'm unfamiliar with the second turn of phrase. What is the original idiom you tried to translate? I don't think it exists in English.

Zero Day Defense said:
I'm saying that your bad faith shines through a hackneyed phrase that doesn't make any sense on any level. You are that stupid for repeatedly saying that Trump lost 50-0 when he (and his surrogates) only posed challenges in six states.
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Holy fuck, do I have to spell this out? When the fuck did I say "Trump lost 50-0"? You are so bad at this strawmanning thing.

I said that the claim "there was fraud in the 2020 election" has been slapped on the face by the fact that fifty states that have certified the integrity of their elections.
If there was fraud in any state, regardless of whether Trump and his surrogates challenged it, someone -could have- proven it and then it would -be decertified-.
At no fucking point was it ever limited to just discussing the "challenges in the six states" - that is your invention as of this quoted post to try to make it look better. No. State. Refused. To. Certify.

Even if I play your game, it's 6-0. 0% success rate. Of the legal challenges, 0% success rate. Technically, we've got a few pending, yes; but I'm feeling pretty safe to say it'll stay at that 0% rate.

And I'll remind you on monday, just in case.

I have to add this, by the way.
Expect dismissal because muh laches.

Or standing.
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They're in fucking arguments.
 
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StarkRavingMad said:
The silver lining to the SCOTUS dismissing the case before even hearing it, in my opinion, is that Trump can now easily influence public opinion. There's been no court that has even bothered to look at ANY evidence. This only reinforces Trump's message of how everything was rigged against him, which will influence public opinion against Biden much easier. Trump is in a position to sabotage a Biden Administration in the court of public opinion.
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Not that it actually matters since public opinion changes nothing.
 
Rich Evans Apologist said:
I'm having fun mining salt dude, lol. It takes a minute to type this shit, and research is fun.
But I'm unfamiliar with the second turn of phrase. What is the original idiom you tried to translate? I don't think it exists in English.
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If getting angry at a civil discussion is your idea of fun no I don't wanna know how miserable your daily life is lol
 
Gustav Schuchardt said:
There's something very touching about the people in this thread insisting that there's nothing wrong with the election and that America will just go on as it has before as eventually the supermajority of Trump voters who think it was rigged will get convinced by the likes of CNN and AP that everything is fine, despite the fact that those same sources completely failed to convince them not to vote for Trump
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Oh no. Im aware everything is rotten.
Its way past the point of reform being possible. As I said the goverment has become weaponized and is a public health hazard.
 
Reisen Storm said:
It’s what they get.
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If I l lived in Georgia, I wouldn't give a shit about voting
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
They are seething because its not enough to just lose; Trump supporters have to admit we lost fair and square, and admit we were wrong and admit we should have known better than to elect a populist outsider.
TBF GOP establishment Neocons feel the same way.

There is a clip from Black Sails I would post, but I'm lazy and have somewhere to be; but basically a fictionalized Governor Roberts has captured a fictionalized Blackbeard and is torturing him by doing the keel-haul - but, because Blackbeard refuses to bow and submit its Roberts who is the one angry and dismayed despite being the one inflicting the torture.

TBF there is a lot of pro-Trump salt/ego-death in this thread though...
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You're right.

To a sore winner, winning without their opponents being broken and humiliated is no win at all.

So many of them have this fantasy that if they are on the winning side , the losers will come to them on their knees and try to repent for the sin of being a loser by begging for a mercy that they will never give.

Whereas in reality, the losers will just say "fuck you" and move on.
 
Zero Day Defense said:
I'm saying that your bad faith shines through a hackneyed phrase that doesn't make any sense on any level. You are that stupid for repeatedly saying that Trump lost 50-0 when he (and his surrogates) only posed challenges in six states.


If you really wanted to do a "HERE'S HOW TRUMP CAN STILL WIN" at this point, you would argue that the retention of the majority allows for the possibility of leaving votes from controversial states uncertified in the Congress.

Of course, you have to consider whether or not the GOP as it stands even deserves the opportunity to contemplate something like that. They (and that includes Trump) hardly tried to push back against the setups of the mechanisms that lost them this election, fraud or not. This exposed the GA governor and SoS as lazy at best and bedfellows with the opposition at worst. This exposed the Michigan GOP to be moribund and incapable of even simply supporting its workers in comparison to the MI DNC-- in fact, they all receive that kind of support in the major cities like Philly or Detroit. They'll spout their rank-and-file's favorite catchphrases, take their money, and then go back to slobbering over their special interests while screwing over that same constituency with no push back against the sociocultural march of the Democratic party and trade deals/national security acts that actively screw everyone over-- whether or not we realize it now or a few years down the line.

If you vote these people in for any reason, you'll have to continue to vote for them just to hold the line because they're not going to do anything to solidify what can be considered gain to the people that elect them. And if all you need is for the line of something easily done and undone to be held, then that's fine. But I don't expect a Republican Senate to take into account the controversies in these states in order to force a contingent election (not that they should, since they don't have any favorable court cases to point to as hard support, even if the majority of these were dismissed on standing or muh laches). I don't expect them to constitutionally fix the number of justices that can sit on the SCOTUS bench in order to avoid court packing. I don't expect them to not slobber over Big Business' nuts as it continues to choke out middle America and the middle class. I don't expect them to make a definitive push back against the cultural insanity that's boiling over.

I guess what I'm saying is that, if I lived in GA, I wouldn't be motivated to vote.


Expect dismissal because muh laches.

Or standing.

And if they do have undeniable standing, they'll just write a court order to have someone take a sledgehammer to plaintiff's lawyer's kneecaps and then dismiss the case because they're a cripple that can't stand.
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i think its past standing since theyre doing a hearing.they're arguing facts right now. the issue being talked about is "does the state election board have more authority than the law?"
 
StarkRavingMad said:
Styx's argument is exactly the argument that Giuliani was making last night.

I guess that Raz0rfist is correct that this isn't technically over ... But I think a lot of people need to realize the huge loss that last night was.
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Almost eerily right on time, the Styx/Razorfag fellatio continues. You guys never learn with these cows. They are grifters, they are not smart. They are just smarter than their audience.
 
StarkRavingMad said:
Styx's argument is exactly the argument that Giuliani was making last night.

Technically, it isn't "over." Styx and Giuliani are right about that. However, sadly, I think that the SCOTUS' actions (or, rather, inactions) have set a precedent for how they will be viewing the other lawsuits coming.

Last night, I know that Raz0rfist said something along the lines of how it would be worse for Trump if the SCOTUS has looked into the case and then ruled against him. With them fully dismissing the case without hearing any of the evidence, then that puts Trump in a position to keep piling on lawsuits. So, I guess that Raz0rfist is correct that this isn't technically over ... But I think a lot of people need to realize the huge loss that last night was.

The silver lining to the SCOTUS dismissing the case before even hearing it, in my opinion, is that Trump can now easily influence public opinion. There's been no court that has even bothered to look at ANY evidence. This only reinforces Trump's message of how everything was rigged against him, which will influence public opinion against Biden much easier. Trump is in a position to sabotage a Biden Administration in the court of public opinion.
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Yeah, like it was mentioned before, it only turns the clock back a few days, and so Trump hasn't really lost ground. But also like what others have pointed out, the problem is that he also hasn't really advanced either- so the work remains, with less time to do so.

The real problem with the SCOTUS is its implications onto future federal electoral cases IMO, and the fact that it's left the whole PA-MI-WI-GA situation unresolved. The question now is if the country really has a procedural mechanism to deal with this, or if it'll essentially have to require the equivalent of sticking one's hand into the machine to fix.

The second issue is that this whole string of events really makes people lose faith in the ability of government to resolve these issues and reform itself. If the popular conservative mood starts drifting towards the thought that this country is a lost cause, then people will start adjusting their lifestyles and future plans based on this outlook.
 
There was no election fraud.
There will be no civil war.
Joe Biden is your President.
Your life won't change in any meaningful way from this Presidential Election.

cope, seethe, dilate, have sex incel, etc

shoutout to brother HHH for triggering you fags daily for the past few weeks, i dont always agree with him but watching him engage with you delusional spergs always made for top entertainment
 
niggerfaggotretard said:
There was no election fraud.
There will be no civil war.
Joe Biden is your President.
Your life won't change in any meaningful way from this Presidential Election.

cope, seethe, dilate, have sex incel, etc

shoutout to brother HHH for triggering you fags daily for the past few weeks, i dont always agree with him but watching him engage with you delusional spergs always made for top entertainment
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There are five lights, not four.
 
babadook said:
If getting angry at a civil discussion is your idea of fun no I don't wanna know how miserable your daily life is lol
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Do you think people on kiwifarms only call each other nigger and faggot when they're angry?

The purpose of this website is to laugh at fat, drooling retards, vladchong. And I'm having a good old time.
 
Rich Evans Apologist said:
How do I explain the human errors? Dude, fucking research what happens in elections. "Human error" means someone counted wrong, carrier a number incorrectly, mismatched a name, forgot to count a ballot, whatever. They happen in every goddamn election, because humans are not perfect machines. You will find human error in every single one.
Seriously, is this your first election?
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specific to coffee county, what was the human error? not generally for a general election but for this very specific thing i am arguing. you have a habit of not addressing what im arguing.

Rich Evans Apologist said:
If the investigation in GA finds something, they can decertify it. If that certification stands, then yes, I can use it as proof - nothing was presented which suggested it shouldn't be certified.
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electors meet monday, is ga going to send electors despite an ongoing investigation?

Rich Evans Apologist said:
A recount is by definition an audit. You are searching for one VERY SPECIFIC form of audit, which you have thusfar failed to convince any committee or court is necessary. You're not getting it, because you have yet to show that it would be useful. Shutting you up because you "promise" it will be enough isn't basis enough, and nothing has been substantiated beyond your whining.
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if we're having a good faith debate there's no reason to doubt my claim that i'd be satisfied.

a recount recounts the ballots, that are in question. which is why i am asking for a very specific thing to address those concerns.
 
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murdered meat bag said:
watch it. thr judges are upset about drop off boxes.
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The thing about these procedural lawsuits is that, even if you win, no court is actually going to order any changes in the election that has already taken place. People voted in good faith in the manner that their government provided. No judge is going to throw ballots out because they were filed in a way found to be improper, especially since it's impossible to determine which ballots this actually applies to at this point. All that's going to happen is that the procedures are going to change for the next election.

Only lawsuits that allege massive criminal fraud can possibly alter the election at this late date, which is a problem because there's not a single iota of evidence that large scale fraud took place.
 
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