2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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CrystalHead said:
I don't know if this has been talked about in here. But Baris' polling of Georgia does not paint a good picture for the GOP.

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You can think the outcome of this election is fraudulent or not but what sort of moron thinks that mass use of mail-in voting doesn't increase voter fraud. It's internationally recognized as one of the key enablers. The fucking BBC had it on their website as one of their chief warning signs of electoral fraud happening. The majority of EU countries don't allow it and where they do like in the UK, it's only on request and requires photo ID and a valid reason to request it such as disability. They're idiots.
 
The problem with this sort of thing is that there's no way the Democrats would agree to cede the states they 'won' this time.

https://twitter.com/USAsecession/status/1337582509505306626
https://archive.vn/wip/x4Fff

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Also if you look at this map of 2020 the red areas should, if anything, be larger

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I can't see this working though. The blue areas are islands in a sea of red, which is something they'd fight to avoid becoming.

The only long term solution I can see as viable is a Convention of States which limits the power of the Federal government. If the Feds aren't screwing around with things like marriage or who goes in bathrooms or whatever nonsense people in blue states worry about then it's less of an issue if the other team has the White House for 4 years. Even then I think a Federal government has to be lead by someone who is seen to be legitimately elected. For most of the country, it's bad enough that the populous cities can outvote you because they've got more citizens. If they can stuff ballot boxes with fake ballots too then you've basically ceded control of the executive to them forever.
 
ducktales4gameboy said:
The thing that's getting to me is that there's no real celebration over it, no real salt and no real gloating from the left. Just this lingering dread even from some of the twitters you'd expect to be really smarmy over it, like they've realized what's going on with Youtube right now might be applied to them next now that they've outlived their usefulness.

HHH's trolling and the locally produced salt over the un-threadbans have been amusing at least.
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Yeah i noticed how people aren't celebrating this. The only people i personally know that is a biden/harris supporters are my family. Oh well, voter turnouts go hurt scotus and the GOP in the future.
 
Big Nasty said:
Even one full term is stretching it, I think. The guy is basically too old for the presidency and it is not like anyone is really going to give a shit about him.
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It doesnt matter, Biden and Kamala are meaningless empty vessels, they arent really going to be doing much decision making of their own, even if Biden dies of old and Kamala and her VP die somehow there's an infinite production line of pod people sellouts to take their places

Maybe in 4 years you'll be allowed to elect a uniparty vessel with an R next to xir name and that'll be enough to satisfy enough people
 
Its no longer about if the election was fraudulent or not.

Its now various factions see the other factions as hostile or have become hostile to other factions.

People now are no longer feeling safe under the current union.

Just as a woman who runs away from an abusive husband for her lifes sake so should the union be dissolved for similar reasons.

Then replace it with regional goverments for the sake of self defense. Then attempt at a new union to replace the current one.

This Isnt a black white issue. Its not a democrat or republican issue. Its the issue for many people.

No one ought to live under a government they feel will persecute them or has become weaponized if they can help it.
 
murdered meat bag said:
then the gop shouldn't have cucked.
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There is no smoking gun or any evidence outside of "Guy on twitter" there is only PA and even then it might be nothing.
So right now you peeps freaking out about this is helping to sell the idea that "Voting don't mater" so nice work. Democrats will have and easier time.

If i was a Democrat right now i would have a major hardon as you guys are possibly giving the Dems the biggest power Posts in generations.
 
States don't have sovereignty re: who they decide to grant marriage certificates to or whether they allow abortion because of penumbral emanations or somesuch, but are allowed to conduct federal elections any way they please despite the federal implications and despite the fact that they run afoul of both the federal constitution and their own.

...makes sense.
 
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