2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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people asking about trump appointees not wanting to take the case is maddening. Trump is not an emperor, they don’t owe him favors. They are supposed to be an independent, separate branch of government.
The fact that the court is so partisan that we have liberal and conservative justices is also sad. As Roberts said recently there should be no such thing as a “trump judge” or an “Obama judge”. There are just judges who’s job it is to rule based on the law, not politics
There's also the fact that had they openly supported him they would've been accused of being pawns and it would've fueled a media narrative that would justify "rebalancing the courts" because of muh eebil Rethuglican bigots.

The problem with SCOTUS is that has and always will be a place where political decisions are made while pretending that they're entirely apolitical. As an institution it is way too powerful for its own good.
 
Under the retarded new precedents that I hope don't become reality.

couldn't the republican governors and legislations simply declare the winner of elections to be the candidate who wins the higer number of counties in a state, contrary to the popular vote?

if they are saying fuck rules then fuck rules.
 
I really want to slap these people. Do they have any idea what a civil war is? Does no one under the age of 30 know history and what happened during Sherman's March to the Sea? The effects of that are still with us today. They have no idea what it's like to have to hide any valuables and go out looking poor af because the hungry homeless have become feral criminals and will kill you just to steal so they can live another day. They're homeless because a faction bombed the shit out of their town and are insane after watching family die or turned into hamburger meat. And you only go out when its absolutely necessary because soldiers are on edge and have orders to shoot to kill any insurgents. Some are also insane because they joined up after nearly starving to dead when their home blew up with their loved ones in it. Males have to stay hidden because conscription by either side(s). Only old or women who deliberately look hideous go out for food and even they're taking huge chances.

Imagine killing because you have to. If you don't, you die. Some people are mentally prepared for that but many, especially in our soft comfy society, aren't. It literally breaks some folks. It's nowhere as neat as in the movies or video games. It can take a long time for some people to die, even with their intestines hanging out. And its not quiet. Oh and kiss hot water goodbye, no one has the money for it or the resources to heat it up. I've seen desperate people in a country with an active civil war going on. It was a Mad Max; The Road Warrior landscape in some parts because the government ceded it to insurgents to concentrate on winning battles in areas they could. That's what happens, you're political leaders abandon you when the going gets tough.

And the other side should get a good slap too for goading the losers. Someone, somewhere, has been so damaged by the coof restrictions, unemployment, looming eviction/foreclosure, car repo and family issues that they'll snap. Multiple it by a few million and you have the insurrection you claim you don't want. "B-B-But Biden won!" isn't going to stop them.
I wouldnt survive such an ordeal. I want things way there were but everyone else:
NOPE!
 
I really want to slap these people. Do they have any idea what a civil war is? Does no one under the age of 30 know history and what happened during Sherman's March to the Sea? The effects of that are still with us today. They have no idea what it's like to have to hide any valuables and go out looking poor af because the hungry homeless have become feral criminals and will kill you just to steal so they can live another day. They're homeless because a faction bombed the shit out of their town and are insane after watching family die or turned into hamburger meat. And you only go out when its absolutely necessary because soldiers are on edge and have orders to shoot to kill any insurgents. Some are also insane because they joined up after nearly starving to dead when their home blew up with their loved ones in it. Males have to stay hidden because conscription by either side(s). Only old or women who deliberately look hideous go out for food and even they're taking huge chances.

Imagine killing because you have to. If you don't, you die. Some people are mentally prepared for that but many, especially in out soft comfy society, aren't. It literally breaks some folks. It's nowhere as neat as in the movies or video games. It can take a long time for some people to die, even with their intestines hanging out. And its not quiet. Oh and kiss hot water goodbye, no has the money for it or the resources to heat it up. I've seen desperate people in a country with an active civil war going on. It was a Mad Max; The Road Warrior landscape in some parts because the government ceded it to insurgents to concentrate on winning battle in areas they could. That's what happens, you're political leaders abandon you when the going gets tough.

And the other side should get a good slap too for goading the losers. Someone, somewhere, has been so damaged by the coof restrictions, unemployment, looming eviction/foreclosure, car repo and family issues that they'll snap. Multiple it by a few million and you have the insurrection you claim you don't want. "B-B-But Biden won!" isn't going to stop them.
To be fair, I don't think many want an actual civil war, at least those aren't war mongering loonies, the problem is as you mention in your last paragraph people will become desperate depending on what actions are taken, and it might be inevitable at this point. Not yet though it has to get far worse before people will go off the wagon or full out.

Personally I think it could have been avoided, but now I have little faith.
 
I really want to slap these people. Do they have any idea what a civil war is? Does no one under the age of 30 know history and what happened during Sherman's March to the Sea? The effects of that are still with us today. They have no idea what it's like to have to hide any valuables and go out looking poor af because the hungry homeless have become feral criminals and will kill you just to steal so they can live another day. They're homeless because a faction bombed the shit out of their town and are insane after watching family die or turned into hamburger meat. And you only go out when its absolutely necessary because soldiers are on edge and have orders to shoot to kill any insurgents. Some are also insane because they joined up after nearly starving to dead when their home blew up with their loved ones in it. Males have to stay hidden because conscription by either side(s). Only old or women who deliberately look hideous go out for food and even they're taking huge chances.

Imagine killing because you have to. If you don't, you die. Some people are mentally prepared for that but many, especially in our soft comfy society, aren't. It literally breaks some folks. It's nowhere as neat as in the movies or video games. It can take a long time for some people to die, even with their intestines hanging out. And its not quiet. Oh and kiss hot water goodbye, no one has the money for it or the resources to heat it up. I've seen desperate people in a country with an active civil war going on. It was a Mad Max; The Road Warrior landscape in some parts because the government ceded it to insurgents to concentrate on winning battles in areas they could. That's what happens, you're political leaders abandon you when the going gets tough.

And the other side should get a good slap too for goading the losers. Someone, somewhere, has been so damaged by the coof restrictions, unemployment, looming eviction/foreclosure, car repo and family issues that they'll snap. Multiple it by a few million and you have the insurrection you claim you don't want. "B-B-But Biden won!" isn't going to stop them.

Maybe that's the Great Reset they've been machinating for the last few decades?
 
To be fair, I don't think many want an actual civil war, at least those aren't war mongering loonies, the problem is as you mention in your last paragraph people will become desperate depending on what actions are taken, and it might be inevitable at this point. Not yet though it has to get far worse before people will go off the wagon or full out.

Personally I think it could have been avoided, but now I have little faith.
yeah American politics has become an exsitential threat to many. Its gotten people feeling they going be damned if they do or damned if they dont. Thats a baaad thing
 
Under the retarded new precedents that I hope don't become reality.

couldn't the republican governors and legislations simply declare the winner of elections to be the candidate who wins the higer number of counties in a state, contrary to the popular vote?

if they are saying fuck rules then fuck rules.
I just hope they have the balls to go through with something, push this decision to the fucking limit, be as absolutely obnoxious and radical about it as possible until the dems themselves are begging for the SCOTUS to reconsider
 
I really want to slap these people. Do they have any idea what a civil war is? Does no one under the age of 30 know history and what happened during Sherman's March to the Sea? The effects of that are still with us today. They have no idea what it's like to have to hide any valuables and go out looking poor af because the hungry homeless have become feral criminals and will kill you just to steal so they can live another day. They're homeless because a faction bombed the shit out of their town and are insane after watching family die or turned into hamburger meat. And you only go out when its absolutely necessary because soldiers are on edge and have orders to shoot to kill any insurgents. Some are also insane because they joined up after nearly starving to dead when their home blew up with their loved ones in it. Males have to stay hidden because conscription by either side(s). Only old or women who deliberately look hideous go out for food and even they're taking huge chances.

Imagine killing because you have to. If you don't, you die. Some people are mentally prepared for that but many, especially in our soft comfy society, aren't. It literally breaks some folks. It's nowhere as neat as in the movies or video games. It can take a long time for some people to die, even with their intestines hanging out. And its not quiet. Oh and kiss hot water goodbye, no one has the money for it or the resources to heat it up. I've seen desperate people in a country with an active civil war going on. It was a Mad Max; The Road Warrior landscape in some parts because the government ceded it to insurgents to concentrate on winning battles in areas they could. That's what happens, you're political leaders abandon you when the going gets tough.

And the other side should get a good slap too for goading the losers. Someone, somewhere, has been so damaged by the coof restrictions, unemployment, looming eviction/foreclosure, car repo and family issues that they'll snap. Multiple it by a few million and you have the insurrection you claim you don't want. "B-B-But Biden won!" isn't going to stop them.
Not even just killing. Imagine sitting in a trench for months on end, in shitty muddy dirty conditions, eating shit rations, trying to do everything you can to not go insane from boredom. Then suddenly a mortar smacks into your trench or you have to charge a enemy territory or they charge you, and suddenly your shitting yourself as you have to fight to survive as your friends die screaming around you. That's a big reason a lot of soldiers get PTSD, not just from killing, but the sheer insanity and hellish conditions of wars.
And I don't think people truly want a war, just that they think it's the only option left.
 
Everyone wants war until they have to be in one.
War is a part of who we are. It shapes us it molds us. Its the ultimate form of competition. Its what makes civilizations and breaks civilizations. The horror and the attrocities mold into strength, the victories into traditions and celebrations, into something to feel proud about and people to honor, the losses into mourning and a stark reminder on what to avoid in the future. War and conflict will forever be a part of civilization.
 
you're all gonna go right back to playing call of duty and bitching about the fact that you'll get in trouble for calling someone nigger over the coms, don't kid yourselves

I swear when you realize who you brought to office on the back of refusing to vote repub in georgia, I will mine that fucking salt just as much as right now
 
Does this mean we're done with the cancer?
No, it means everything is back to where it was three days ago, before everyone thought the existence of the universe depended completely on the SCOTUS' ruling on the Hail Mary pass from Texas. People have the memory of a fucking goldfish so they lost track of absolutely everything else that was happening and threw every single chip they could find on this case that cropped up completely out of the clear blue, and that's precisely why I'm so sick of everyone ripping their hair out.

Several other things were happening, several other paths are laid out, several other options are still available, and yet everyone locked their eyes on this brand new case and packed every ounce of faith in it even though it was arguably one of the least-likely to succeed, even if it was one of the most interesting. If people can quit acting like hyper-emotional, glue-huffing window-lickers for five seconds, maybe they can remember what was happening three fucking days ago.
 
I don't think people want war, I think people are just so tired of how things have gotten and think war is the only solution for a reset.
War is the continuation of politics by other means. Bismarck stated that but it's really an observation that war is the cudgel of politics as in German it's implied war is an extension of politics, not the replacement. Der Krieg ist eine blosse Fortsetzung der Politik mit anderen Mitteln is more nuanced. Anyone calling for war is exercising a extreme method which has extreme consequences.

Be careful what you wish for if war is your solution to the issues that beset America.
 
you're all gonna go right back to playing call of duty and bitching about the fact that you'll get in trouble for calling someone nigger over the coms, don't kid yourselves

I swear when you realize who you brought to office on the back of refusing to vote repub in georgia, I will mine that fucking salt just as much as right now
One thing I predict will happen is white collar crime and fraud will boom. One cause of the lock downs. The other reason?
If they dont give a damn why should I?
 
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