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Yeah I'm surprised they haven't already jumped onto using née, although I don't know if Wikipedia use that for married women in their style manual and I don't care to look. Unfortunately this would just be another case of the confusion of existing language by now applying it to first names, plus also it is very uncommon for it to be applied to men (as historically they would never be the ones to change their last name at marriage).
I imagine you can just place the parenthesis further up the name like:
Meghan Windsor (née Markle) vs. Elliot (née Ellen) Paige
 
for godsake, some people actually need to told to do those things? I'm vain and a fag but I use foundation (well, cover-up), blowdry, have longish hair, and moisturize. I'm not even trying to look female, I just know those things are how to make the best of an ugly situation, haha. Whyyyy do sooo many troons seem to have trouble with basic hygiene, and simple grooming? If they're just slobs, then fine (I guess) but they have no right to moan that lesbians won't touch their dick if they don't even make a token effort...
 
Fun fact, the word "née" in french is exclusively feminine: the masculine version would be "né". I wonder if that makes it transphobic in this case.
Huh. Learn something new everyday. On one hand, yeah, it’s gonna be “transphobic” I guess they could use né for trans men but whatever. On the other hand they could just claim “English weirdness” and make née a neutral word in English. Cause why not?
Alternatively, plenty of people have changed their name. How how the fuck to they handle Prince?
 
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I'm sure some of you have seen The Queen's Gambit, it's a Netflix original series that's very popular right now. To summarize, it's about an orphaned young female chess prodigy who seeks to become the best chess player in the world -- all while struggling with addiction, trauma, and a shitty personality -- during the patriarchal 1960s. I thought it was a decent show, but it was definitely woke; for example, the smart, sassy black character becomes a radical activist lawyer in the Black Power movement. As the story begins, the main character enters an orphanage for girls sometime in the 1950s -- and because Netflix was desperate to virtue signal, I guess -- the choir director is a transwoman. It's immediately apparent that the actor is trans mind you, and the voice leaves no room for doubt. And frankly, it kinda breaks the realism of a period drama to see something so jarringly modern shoehorned into the scene; is the audience really expected to believe that this person would be allowed to teach at an all-female, church-affiliated orphanage in the '50s? But the casting decision worked as planned, and the woke retards ate it up.
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I personally didn't realize that the choir teacher is trans. I didn't pay much attention to the character to begin with, just assumed that she was an unfortunate-looking woman. Also, the Italian voice actor chosen for the character is a real woman (Barbara Castracane, the official Italian voice actor for Famke Janssen, Queen Latifah and... Mrs Beakly), and that contributed to the illusion. Now I wonder how's the dub in other languages, and if choosing a woman to dub a transwoman (like here they did for Agrado in Todo Sobra Mi Madre) is a victory for the trans movement or if it's seen as 'cis actors stealing jobs from trans actors'.
 
Why don’t they just do whatever’s done when a woman marries?
Oh, there are tons of reasons that people change their names, it's not a new convention, especially in entertainment. However, in the other cases there has never been this delusion that the person's old name was somehow harmful to them. You'd think that, considering how proud they always are to be trans, they'd be willing to acknowledge that they used to be called their "deadname". They're not fucking divine entities who are bound up in a true name that holds literal, physical power over them. Even if you believe in troonism, the person who was hired to play Juno MacGuff, the person listed in the credits, the person who was nominated for an Oscar was named "Ellen" and the contemporary paperwork and reviews will reflect that, even if the name has since changed, and logically it shouldn't be wiped away.

But in her Wikipedia page they really do go out of their way to avoid saying "Ellen" (they simply couldn't avoid it in the references section though), really only mentioning it in regards to her birth and her new name. If you look at someone like Cat Stevens they really don't even try to avoid saying "Steven Demetre Georgiou" or any variation thereof despite the fact that he hasn't been called that in fifty years and was never known as "Mr Georgiou" or anything like that, simply because it would be dishonest to call him "Cat" or "Yusuf" for his early life.

I believe you both are missing the point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the issue isn't the abortion itself, it's the fact that once a mother in China discovers her unborn child to be female, the chances of abortion are exponentially higher, if not guaranteed. This is likely due to the two-child policy. After all, a woman cannot lead a family. You need a son to continue the bloodline. This is why there are a lack of women in China, and why they opt to kidnap women from other countries.

It's about the statistics, not the act.
No, it's about the act. But it's not contradictory, feminists aren't opposed to aborting female fetuses, they're opposed to aborting fetuses because they're female. Same way that feminists aren't against bosses firing their employees, but they are against them firing employees for being female. Or any number of things that are acknowledged as unfortunate, but necessary. This inability to distinguish between has really infested libfem ideology where you'll get people insisting that you can't be a feminist if you don't believe in these things that are similar to (but distinct from) actual women's issues.
 
Huh. Learn something new everyday. On one hand, yeah, it’s gonna be “transphobic” I guess they could use né for trans men but whatever. On the other hand they could just claim “English weirdness” and make née a neutral word in English. Cause why not?
I imagine the Académie Française would throw an absolute shit-fit if the Anglophones started misappropriating a French word to make it gender neutral. So either we choose to piss off trannies by misgendering, or piss off the French by mangling their language. Spoiled for choice!
 
I imagine the Académie Française would throw an absolute shit-fit if the Anglophones started misappropriating a French word to make it gender neutral. So either we choose to piss off trannies by misgendering, or piss off the French by mangling their language. Spoiled for choice!
They’ve gone after Spanish already, so why not? I’ve already seen people pushing for Filipinx and Italianx.

Btw, anyone else remember when the gender neutral form was Latin@?
 
They’ve gone after Spanish already, so why not? I’ve already seen people pushing for Filipinx and Italianx.

Btw, anyone else remember when the gender neutral form was Latin@?
Sandrat remembers
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I imagine the Académie Française would throw an absolute shit-fit if the Anglophones started misappropriating a French word to make it gender neutral. So either we choose to piss off trannies by misgendering, or piss off the French by mangling their language. Spoiled for choice!
Trannies will get pissed off regardless, they want to memoryhole their deadnames at any cost. And even if they didn't actually care about their deadnames, they still just enjoy 1) bitching about everything 2) making people do what they want.
 
They’ve gone after Spanish already, so why not? I’ve already seen people pushing for Filipinx and Italianx.

Btw, anyone else remember when the gender neutral form was Latin@?
Oddly enough, the only Latin-based languages that have some form of neuter gender endings are Asturleonese/Asturian/Leonese/Mirandese and Eastern Romance languages like Romanian.
 
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Trannies will get pissed off regardless, they want to memoryhole their deadnames at any cost. And even if they didn't actually care about their deadnames, they still just enjoy 1) bitching about everything 2) making people do what they want.
I’ve often wondered just how much they must hate their parents to do that. I get that some folks name their kid just something pretty, or something u-neek and sure, fuck it if you’re the 20th Isabella in class, but what if you’re named after an ancestor, or a person who your family loved like a dear friend or even a song that meant something to them. To throw all that meaning away seems cruel after a manner. I guess some folks might choose a similar name so that they still honor a person, but if you were named after your grandpa who survived the Holocaust and change your name to “Krystal” That just rubs me the wrong way.
You’re just, disrespecting your history.
 
Just found out there's a troon on a discord server I'm on. He's 17, constantly changes his nickname, tries to make everyone use pronoun roles and all the memes he posts are somehow either pro trans or otherwise sexual. Funny how that works.
 
Started watching the new "The Craft" movie.

Found out that one of the coven's members is "a trans girl".

Turned it off.

I'm sure that the Old Ones are totally accepting of your made up gender and surely it won't destroy any magic you idiots try to do.
 
I never understood why changing your sex legally also means changing your birth certificate. That's like having multiple layers of lying, and what for?

Dunno about you Septics but over here in Britbongland it's the reason we have the Gender Recognition Act, and it's because gay marriage was still illegal in 2004.

Our homophobic government refused to even countenance marriage between 2 males or 2 females, even if one of them was trans, so trans couldn't get married. To get round this, they were allowed a Gender Recognition Certificate, which allowed them to have their original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued in their "new sex". Boom. Now we have 1 male 1 female and they can marry, Hurrah.

That's literally the only reason it was allowed.

The current shitshow outcome of this was even predicted by some of the politicians involved (there's a thing here called Hansard which documents the whole debating process that led to the GRA) but they were over-ridden, because there was NO WAY they were going to let those pesky gays get married.
 
Just found out there's a troon on a discord server I'm on. He's 17, constantly changes his nickname, tries to make everyone use pronoun roles and all the memes he posts are somehow either pro trans or otherwise sexual. Funny how that works.
I've been in servers where a few of the members would randomly post "TRANS RIGHTS" in the general chat with no provocation. I don't think the mods could do anything about spam like that, even if they wanted to, because it would be "transphobic"
 
No, it's about the act. But it's not contradictory, feminists aren't opposed to aborting female fetuses, they're opposed to aborting fetuses because they're female. Same way that feminists aren't against bosses firing their employees, but they are against them firing employees for being female. Or any number of things that are acknowledged as unfortunate, but necessary. This inability to distinguish between has really infested libfem ideology where you'll get people insisting that you can't be a feminist if you don't believe in these things that are similar to (but distinct from) actual women's issues.
Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. You certainly worded it better than I. When I said it was about the statistics, not the act, I meant so in terms of comparing the amount of aborted male fetuses over female fetuses. Obviously, this would happen because the fetus is female, you are correct.

Just found out there's a troon on a discord server I'm on. He's 17, constantly changes his nickname, tries to make everyone use pronoun roles and all the memes he posts are somehow either pro trans or otherwise sexual. Funny how that works.

I have a fair following on Twitter and my social media is tied to a decently sized Discord server. If anyone comes in saying they're trans, I tell them "We don't accept trannies." and ban them. This was especially hectic when it spread like the plague on the Twitter sesspool, but I had fun with it in its heyday.

"---- IS TRANSPHOBIC!"
Why yes, thank you for noticing.

Sometimes I miss it, but deep down I know I would hate to see it amp up again because these troon goons can be mentally exhausting to deal with. I've practically stopped debating and opted to simply misgender them and/ or reply with "lol" and "k". Short responses like these that show disinterest or mockery really irks them, and it's funny as hell. I recommend it to those exhausted by constant debates that go nowhere. There's no point in arguing with these people and I learned that the long way.
 
They’ve gone after Spanish already, so why not? I’ve already seen people pushing for Filipinx and Italianx.

Btw, anyone else remember when the gender neutral form was Latin@?

I remember when the gender neutral form was "Latin," because it still is. You could argue that "Filipinx" makes a twisted sort of sense due to the lack of a gender neutral form of Filipino/a, but there was never any reason to genderfuck "Latin." It's always been purely performative.
 
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