💊 Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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GranDuke said:
Has he ever done any activism?
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He was a member of the intellectual d4rk web.
Since that day he took himself a bit more seriously so he could integrate this group composed of high I.Q individuals and not get rape /sodomised by facts and logic.
He always saw himself as liberal democrat pro free speech.
But the whole thing made him take so distance from guys like Alex Jones.
Don't get fooled even if he invited him 2 times since the massive censorship, he still was for censoring Jones and took his distance.
Having Alex Jones on his podcast is like seeing your divorced parents go to eat together. They don't really do that because they want to or like each other but more to please you (the fans)
 
Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
Did Joe really consider himself a part of the IDW, or did he more think he was the neutral host for them to express their views?
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Joe is just a very savvy entretainer that knows what people want to hear. From what I've heard his main goal was just to "heal the divide" in the nation, and he thought the best way to do that is to plataform fringe voices. I guess he can also empathize with being a little fringe because of his strong advocacy with marihuana. It's also worth cosidering that since his main thing is MMA, and MMA is mostly a young male thing; his audience and the IDW audience have lots of overlap.
 
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JeanActimel said:
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He was a member of the intellectual d4rk web.
Since that day he took himself a bit more seriously so he could integrate this group composed of high I.Q individuals and not get rape /sodomised by facts and logic.
He always saw himself as liberal democrat pro free speech.
But the whole thing made him take so distance from guys like Alex Jones.
Don't get fooled even if he invited him 2 times since the massive censorship, he still was for censoring Jones and took his distance.
Having Alex Jones on his podcast is like seeing your divorced parents go to eat together. They don't really do that because they want to or like each other but more to please you (the fans)
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If you think about it (even though I know most people already know this), the “intellectual dark web” was just an excuse for people to learn taboo things that were already known throughout history before the Internet became decentralized and controlled. Calling Joe Rogan a part of that is more ludicrous than claiming that Sam Harris was awesome for making Ben Affleck look terrified and sensitive when talking about Islam, when he couldn’t handle losing a debate to the cartoonist Scott Adams talking about the persuasion skills that President Trump has.

Jordan Peterson was not the creator of putting out “fringe ideas” on the “intellectual dark web”, since reading 12 Rules of Life was postured on having rational thinking skills and just using basic common sense.
 


LeChina James said:
the “intellectual dark web” was just an excuse for people to learn taboo things that were already known throughout history before the Internet became decentralized and controlled.
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Can anyone name even two taboo ideas that they promoted?
 
Lemmingwise said:
Can anyone name even two taboo ideas that they promoted?
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Well, the most obvious and aggregious to me would be to suggest that personal responsability in induviduals somehow makes systemic inequality non-existant. I.E. that black people have more oportunities now ignores the fact that historically blacks have been thoroughly fucked over and that it still has consequences to this day.
IDW are reactionaries that are happy to talk about the science of IQ but not about how the housing market robbed black people of potential wealth.
 
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Justtocheck said:
Well, the most obvious and aggregious to me would be to suggest that personal responsability in induviduals somehow makes systemic inequality non-existant. I.E. that black people have more oportunities now ignores the fact that historically blacks have been thoroughly fucked over and that it still has consequences to this day.
IDW are reactionaries that are happy to talk about the science of IQ but not about how the housing market robbed black people of potential wealth.
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Sounds like you had a problem with what they didn't discuss rather than what they did.
 
Lemmingwise said:
Sounds like you had a problem with what they didn't discuss rather than what they did.
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Well, considering the scope of the debate they are involved (IE saving the west and the young generations) I think it would have been important to mention the views from the other side. Also, when Ben Shapiro says things like "In America, to be successful you need to do three simple things, finish high school, have a job and not have kids before marriage." and leaves it at that (without mentioning race or economic background), then one wonders if they are being purposfuly ignorant for a reason.

To be honest, one can be an intellectual critic of how truthful the notion of systemic inequality is without being labeled a racist, BUT to be fair, it's interesting how in the IDW all the critics are all rich, pasty white dudes.
 
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LeChina James said:
Calling Joe Rogan a part of that is more ludicrous than claiming that Sam Harris was awesome for making Ben Affleck look terrified and sensitive when talking about Islam, when he couldn’t handle losing a debate to the cartoonist Scott Adams talking about the persuasion skills that President Trump has.
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And that is why IDW so useless. So many of them have TDS to admit that maybe they're in the wrong or have the wrong approach. Prime Peterson sort of got them going in a general anti-SJW direction. Since he fell, IDW got routed into a bunch of different podcasts that barely work together.
 
Lemmingwise said:
Can anyone name even two taboo ideas that they promoted?
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Abortion is bad, feminism is bad, socialism is bad, women and men don't know how to work together and it's not men's fault, traditionalism has its place in modern society, IQ has value, there's a bunch of stuff they all got in trouble for.
The issue is that zero of those things should be taboo, but then you come up against the stark fact that these things are what made them controversial and put them into the mainstream. I mean Milo was doing the same shit, you can say you don't think these points are altogether impressive or that each one of them is wrong on whichever point but once again there's a reason people put a target on these people.
A lot of people forget how ridiculous 2016 and everything prior was getting, yeah none of these people are leading a revolution but I recall them at the very least standing up to a campus revolution at that time. The SJWs as they were known eventually mutated into Antifa, but if anyone remembers how it was even 5 years ago you will see that even a milquetoast personality like Sargon of Akkad was being talked about like he was Richard Spencer.
 
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