US Final Presidental Debate 2020

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WELCOME TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!!
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What time is the debate?

Starts at 6pm-7:30pm PST / 8pm CST-9:30pm CST / 9pm-10:30pm EST

How do I watch?

The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel. Stream will be linked here when it's up.


Where?

Belmont University in Nashville.

Who is moderating?​

Kristen Welker

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Candidates-​

Donald J Trump​

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Joseph R Biden​

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The debate will cover six topics:
1) The fight against COVID-19
2) American families
3) Race in America
4) Climate change
5) National security
6) Leadership

New rule: Seeing as the debate is digital, the commission has to give two minutes to let a candidate speak for a given topic. From there it goes into a large back and forth. If one candidate over-speaks or speaks when it's the other's turn, he will be muted.
Well, it’s almost over.

Thursday’s matchup between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden will mark the end of a presidential debate season that has spanned 16 months. Since June 2019, Americans have been asked to watch more than 30 hours of robust discussion spread over 13 Democratic primary events, one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate.

The final debate follows weeks of surprise illness, controversy and the Trump campaign’s feuds with both the Biden team and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. What was meant to be the second presidential debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after Trump rejected the commission’s decision to hold a virtual event in light of his COVID-19 diagnosis early this month. Instead, the two candidates participated in dueling town halls.


Tension between the president’s campaign and the commission grew this week when the the commission announced it would cut off sound to the candidates’ microphones when it wasn’t their turn to speak. The panel is aiming to prevent the kind of constant interruptions — mainly from the president — that plagued the first debate. Trump’s team also criticized the subjects announced by moderator Kristen Welker, an NBC News White House correspondent.

Here’s what you need to know:

What time is the debate?​


The debate will start at 6 p.m. Pacific time Thursday and last 90 minutes, with no commercial breaks. It will be held at Belmont University in Nashville.

How do I watch?​


The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel.

Who is moderating?​


NBC’s Welker is moderating the debate, which will cover six topics: the fight against COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership. The topics Welker chose were announced Friday.

Three days later, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien wrote to the commission that the campaign had expected foreign policy to be the focus and had been promised as much, an assertion the commission said was not true. The letter also accused the commission of engaging in “pro-Biden antics” such as not rescheduling debates based on the Trump campaign’s requests.

No debate in 2020 was ever designated by CPD as devoted to foreign or domestic policy,” the commission wrote on its Twitter account. “The same was true in 2016, when President Trump participated in the CPD debates. The choice of topics is left entirely to the journalistic judgment of the moderators.”

Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo challenged Stepien’s characterization.



“The campaigns and the commission agreed months ago that the debate moderator would choose the topics,” Ducklo said. “The Trump campaign is lying about that now because Donald Trump is afraid to face more questions about his disastrous COVID response.”


What does Trump have to say about Welker?​


The president has a long history of clashing with debate hosts. This year he accused both Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who moderated the first debate, and C-SPAN’s Steve Scully, who would have moderated the Oct. 15 debate, of being biased. Scully was suspended by C-SPAN after he admitted to lying about a tweet he sent to former Trump aide and now critic Anthony Scaramucci.


Trump reserved the same treatment for Welker.

As recently as January, the president congratulated Welker on her new role as a co-anchor on NBC’s “Weekend Today,” saying the network made a “very wise decision.” But in the days leading up to the debate, the president and his allies have attempted to undermine her. The campaign has pointed to reports from Fox News and the New York Post on her parents’ donations to Democratic candidates, though Welker herself is an independent, according to the Associated Press.

What do the candidates think of the microphone rule?​


Asked about the rule change during an extensive phone interview with the hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday, the president said, “The whole thing is crazy.” He repeated a false claim that the commission purposely “stifled out,” “muted” and “modulated” his mic during a 2016 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.

“They actually had to write me a letter of apology,” he said during the call.

(The commission put out a brief statement at the time saying, “There were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.” The sound issue was not apparent on television broadcasts.)

Biden supports the rule change. “I think it’s a good idea, I think there should be more limitations on not interrupting one another,” he told Milwaukee’s ABC News affiliate WISN in an interview Tuesday.

What are the candidates going to talk about?​


Based on the debate topics and recent comments by the campaigns, Biden will probably focus on the president’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has left more than 221,000 Americans dead and millions unemployed.

The president has falsely accused Biden of supporting defunding the police in the past and will probably repeat that claim Thursday. Trump is also expected to bring up Biden’s past comments on fracking and his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Both candidates are likely to hit the other on China. Although the Trump campaign has tried to portray Biden as weak on China and misrepresented his son Hunter Biden’s business dealings there, members of the president’s family, including daughter Ivanka, also have had dealings in China. The New York Times reported this week that President Trump has a Chinese bank account through one of his businesses and paid nearly $200,000 in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015.



Regardless of the topics, the former vice president’s son is likely to be a main target of the president. The New York Post has reported on emails provided by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that he said were retrieved from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly left at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden. It’s unclear whether any steps were taken to verify the authenticity of emails found on the laptop, nor do they support the unfounded allegations that Joe Biden misused his authority as vice president to help his son’s foreign interests. Trump’s claims dovetail with a Russian disinformation effort that U.S. intelligence officials say is designed to undermine Biden’s candidacy.

Is the president going to try a different debate strategy?​


Probably not. Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” asked Trump whether he was planning on changing his debate strategy or introducing new people to his prep team, and whether he would take time to correct any falsehoods from Biden.

“Will you take some of your time and answer the previous question, like Mike Pence did, and then answer their question?” Kilmeade asked the president Tuesday.

“Well look, I do my own debating. I do fine, and I do my own debating, and a lot of people said I won,” Trump said. “Look, when somebody stands there and he lies, lies, lies, I like to challenge it at the time, because you don’t have time to go back.”

Although Biden at the last debate incorrectly said the U.S. had a higher trade deficit with China now than before Trump took office, Trump made multiple false statements, including about mail voting, the economy and his administration’s approach to healthcare.

The president did acknowledge that some people had suggested he let Biden finish his thoughts. “There are a lot of people that say, ‘Let him talk,’ because he loses his train, he loses his train, he loses his mind, frankly,” Trump said.

When is the next debate?​


We’ll get back to you in 2023.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won the final debate. Have fun!
Thank you to everybody following the 2019-2020 presidential cycle and tuning into the debates, it's been a lot of fun and I hope you guys had as much fun as I have. These only come once every 4 years and seem like a slowly fading tradition, I hope the entertainment can be kept alive for future generations. I really enjoy seeing the replies, live takes, responses and memes.

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The CNN poll is by the same company that said Harris won the VP debate 59/38 and not even TYT thought she won that.
I think Frank Luntz getting caught sucking off Biden in the email scandal has the other outlets a bit scared to put the finger on the scale too much. CNN just can't help itself though.
 
What the actual fuck did i just watch?
They should had unironically listened to obama and get a better puppet
Holy fuck
The problem is that all the other puppets were somehow shittier than Biden. They wanted Buttgey and Kamala but noone else did. Atleast Biden could rally the joggers, but only enough to win SC and not enough to get Obama turnout.
 
On policy, I think the worst moment from Biden was likely the North Korea issue. It's already something hard to attack Trump on because if you're saying "he was just trying to appease NK" then by extension you're saying that, that's a bad thing despite the fact that pretty much every Democrat president since the end of the Korean war has done just that. If you're saying he should have taken a hardline approach, you're basically going even further than the position Neo-Cons like Bush took, which would clearly lead to another major war if not WW3.

Basically attacking Trump on this in this sort of context forces you to adopt the worst aspects of both the Neo-Con approach to NK, and the leftist approach to NK.
 
On policy, I think the worst moment from Biden was likely the North Korea issue. It's already something hard to attack Trump on because if you're saying "he was just trying to appease NK" then by extension you're saying that, that's a bad thing despite the fact that pretty much every Democrat president since the end of the Korean war has done just that. If you're saying he should have taken a hardline approach, you're basically going even further than the position Neo-Cons like Bush took, which would clearly lead to another major war if not WW3.

Basically attacking Trump on this in this sort of context forces you to adopt the worst aspects of both the Neo-Con approach to NK, and the leftist approach to NK.

End of the Korean War?

You mean the war Trump ended? That shit was a war until Trump. HE ENDED THE KOREAN WAR.
 
Well you know what I mean lol

I know what you mean but Trump factually ended the Korean War. He actually factually ended the fucking Korean War. He should have said that to Joe on that stage, "Well yeah Joe but, ya know, I ended a 60 year old war within the first few years of my presidency oh and how about that non-secured loan from China you got a kick back from?"

@JambledUpWords That person is historically ignorant and a retard.
 
It's somewhat depressing that Trump's final obstacle for presidency is a feeble puppet of a geriatric.

Say what you will about Hillary Clinton, but she was far more politically savvy, ruthless, and inevitable. A worthy foe for Trump's first election.

I wonder if he misses having a real counterpart. I can tell he's just kind of bored with Biden.
I dunno, while it's not as dramatic Trump vs an old puppet held up by Corporate entities is pretty damn terrifying.

Hillary would have last 4-8 years, our corporate overlords of Google, Apple, and Amazon will be with us for the rest of our lives. Voting for Trump in 2016 was giving a giant Fuck You to Washington and its sleaze. 2020 actually feels like a battle for the soul of America.
 
On policy, I think the worst moment from Biden was likely the North Korea issue. It's already something hard to attack Trump on because if you're saying "he was just trying to appease NK" then by extension you're saying that, that's a bad thing despite the fact that pretty much every Democrat president since the end of the Korean war has done just that. If you're saying he should have taken a hardline approach, you're basically going even further than the position Neo-Cons like Bush took, which would clearly lead to another major war if not WW3.

Basically attacking Trump on this in this sort of context forces you to adopt the worst aspects of both the Neo-Con approach to NK, and the leftist approach to NK.
I mean for all the shit one can give Trump, and there is a lot. His handling of North Korea, while ultimately mixed in result, is not one of them. He got literally closer to the NK leader more than any other president had, and while Un is a lardass tyrant to his people, it's not like he wasn't willing to hear someone out. That was part of the reason why everyone liked Trump in those formative months outside of the memes. He had the guts to actually do shit no other president would have done, or at least tried to solve with war.

Of all things, Biden and the DNC as a whole should have realized that. But no, keep on saying that trying to talk North Korea in to being less of a world-ending threat is a bad thing. I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate it.
 
You guys think this confidence boosted the voter base for Trump. I feel pretty confident.
Most of the Trump supporters I know seem convinced that Trump will win, despite all evidence to the contrary. Most of the anti-Trumpers I know also seem convinced that Trump will win, despite all evidence to the contrary. It's a mystery I'm still trying to unpick.
 
Trump accomplished a good bit of what he wanted to tonight. I dont think Biden or his people are satisfied that he did the same to the same degree.
 
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