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So, I just watched this “Workplace Harassment” video, and it touched on the topic of the transgenders.
I’ll see if I can find it later, but it had a 6’4” brick shithouse of a trans-woman explaining how it’s no one else’s business what bathroom she uses, all while explaining that anything that leads to an uncomfortable work environment is bad.
And I’m just sitting there thinking, “well, what about the other women who use that bathroom? What happens when they’re uncomfortable? Who’s rights trump who’s?”
It’s weird times, man.
 
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AvocadoToast said:
I could be late on this, but Gina Carano is getting dogpiled by twitter trannies for refusing to put pronouns in her bio, and then putting boop/bop/beep instead.

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If I were her, I would have ignored them entirely when they told me to put pronouns in my bio and even before that. Don't react. Don't talk to them. Don't talk openly about them. They are vile lunatics with severe mental illnesses. Don't give them ANY attention.
 
Vapewizard said:
I googled her name cause I dunno who this is and she was apparently in mandalorian? How the hell did it even happen that people were pestering her for this in the first place?
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If you think men have to grovel and beg to not get canceled, women can have it way worse by simple virtue that most troons are male and extremely disdainful of "uppity" women. A man not obeying the gendercult needs to be punished. A woman not obeying the gendercult is heresy.
 
CivilianOfTheFandomWars said:
So, I just watched this “Workplace Harassment” video, and it touched on the topic of the transgenders.
I’ll see if I can find it later, but it had a 6’4” brick shithouse of a trans-woman explaining how it’s no ones business what bathroom she uses, all while explaining that anything that leads to an uncomfortable work environment is bad.
And I’m just sitting there thinking, “well, what about the other women who use that bathroom? What happens when they’re uncomfortable?”
It’s weird times, man.
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They don't care if we're uncomfortable. Real girls don't matter, even if we're the smaller and weaker sex.

Slight powerlevel, but I don't know where else to put this and feel it's relevant. I was in a public restroom, alone. Heard the door open as I was finishing up, didn't think anything of it. Exit the stall and nearly screamed when I saw a troon standing at the mirrors doing his makeup. He was huge. Makeup looked nice, and his wig looked realistic and styled. Clothes were clean, casual, and fit him too. Basically, this troon appeared to put in effort to pass. He wasn't like the ones in this thread.

And yet... it was still a very scary experience. I'm 5'5 and weigh 110. This guy was at least 6'3 and looked like a body builder that was currently on a cut cycle. Every instinct in my body was screaming that I was in danger. 5 or so years ago, I would have screamed at this guy and ran out, alerting staff that there's a MAN in the women's restroom.

Now though? I can't do that, or else I'll be deemed a bigot and accused of committing violence. I had to fight against every instinct that I've been taught to listen to since I was a little girl, and calmly act like it didn't bother me that I was alone in a restroom with a huge man I don't know, who was in the way of the exit. Worse, this bathroom doesn't get a lot of traffic, which is why I chose it in the first place. I had to pretend that all was well as I washed my hands and gave him a polite smile after he said "Heeey how are you?" before quickly leaving.

The situation is so absurd, yet that's our current reality.
 
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afternoon_tea said:
I don't want to PL too much but I know exactly where they're talking about, I was internet aquaintences with the tranny who started it back in the day, it was in Shelton, WA. It wasn't actually a farm, although it was a farm style house and he had a handful of chickens and a sheep. The only other person who lived there was his super psycho tranny gf who 41%ed like 9 years ago. The doc who did the operations didn't live there but would come up when a surgery was scheduled (he was also another tranny)

The OR and electrology station was in a shed they built specifically for that purpose.

Steampunk Phil actually reminds me a lot of the tranny who started that clinic, although I think the bootleg clinic tranny was a little too misanthropic to ever want to start a commune. His name is Beth Flannagan, also known as "Beth X"
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T0oCoolFool said:
They don't care if we're uncomfortable. Real girls don't matter, even if we're the smaller and weaker sex.

Slight powerlevel, but I don't know where else to put this and feel it's relevant. I was in a public restroom, alone. Heard the door open as I was finishing up, didn't think anything of it. Exit the stall and nearly screamed when I saw a troon standing at the mirrors doing his makeup. He was huge. Makeup looked nice, and his wig looked realistic and styled. Clothes were clean, casual, and fit him too. Basically, this troon appeared to put in effort to pass. He wasn't like the ones in this thread.

And yet... it was still a very scary experience. I'm 5'5 and weigh 110. This guy was at least 6'3 and looked like a body builder that was currently on a cut cycle. Every instinct in my body was screaming that I was in danger. 5 or so years ago, I would have screamed at this guy and ran out, alerting staff that there's a MAN in the women's restroom.

Now though? I can't do that, or else I'll be deemed a bigot and accused of committing violence. I had to fight against every instinct that I've been taught to listen to since I was a little girl, and calmly act like it didn't bother me that I was alone in a restroom with a huge man I don't know, who was in the way of the exit. Worse, this bathroom doesn't get a lot of traffic, which is why I chose it in the first place. I had to pretend that all was well as I washed my hands and gave him a polite smile after he said "Heeey how are you?" before quickly leaving.

The situation is so absurd, yet that's our current reality.
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Yeah, it’s things like that that make me feel bad for women these days.
While we’re powerleveling, I am a guy who’s over 6’1”, is involved in bodybuilding, and works construction. I do not have to worry about some FTM transman entering a restroom I’m in. But, we’re getting to the point where a guy like me wouldn’t even have to shave to say that they’re a woman and a lesbian, and that seems like a big problem. Because, let’s be real, there’s bad people out there who would absolutely abuse these rules (Yaniv). I completely understand why a normal woman would be worried about the way things are going, but now they can’t say that or else.
The sad thing is that the discussion around women’s issues seemed to be going well for a while, and then got punted back in favor of the lgbT.
 
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T0oCoolFool said:
They don't care if we're uncomfortable. Real girls don't matter, even if we're the smaller and weaker sex.

Slight powerlevel, but I don't know where else to put this and feel it's relevant. I was in a public restroom, alone. Heard the door open as I was finishing up, didn't think anything of it. Exit the stall and nearly screamed when I saw a troon standing at the mirrors doing his makeup. He was huge. Makeup looked nice, and his wig looked realistic and styled. Clothes were clean, casual, and fit him too. Basically, this troon appeared to put in effort to pass. He wasn't like the ones in this thread.

And yet... it was still a very scary experience. I'm 5'5 and weigh 110. This guy was at least 6'3 and looked like a body builder that was currently on a cut cycle. Every instinct in my body was screaming that I was in danger. 5 or so years ago, I would have screamed at this guy and ran out, alerting staff that there's a MAN in the women's restroom.

Now though? I can't do that, or else I'll be deemed a bigot and accused of committing violence. I had to fight against every instinct that I've been taught to listen to since I was a little girl, and calmly act like it didn't bother me that I was alone in a restroom with a huge man I don't know, who was in the way of the exit. Worse, this bathroom doesn't get a lot of traffic, which is why I chose it in the first place. I had to pretend that all was well as I washed my hands and gave him a polite smile after he said "Heeey how are you?" before quickly leaving.

The situation is so absurd, yet that's our current reality.
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I feel this on a cellular level. Their presence feels *so* wrong and intrinsically threatening in there, even the effeminate HSTS ones. I like to just give them the stink eye and refuse to speak to them. I hope I'm responsible for at least one of them feeling as uncomfortable as they know they're making women.
 
NoReturn said:
In what universe do "cis" straight women engage in physical cuddling and kissing as friends?
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From the porn universe, of course. The same one where women are constantly horny and the most mundane shit like hanging out with friends at a sleepover turns into a full blown BDSM lesbian orgy.

But seriously, how delusional is he if he thinks its normal for straight women to kiss each other? Has he ever met one? What does he think straight means? Does he expect lesbians to make out with him when he forces himself into their spaces IRL?
 
NoReturn said:
Anonymize the details and put it in the spoiler. I gotta know this story.
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She was the daughter of a single mother and, she was very shy with people of the opposite sex, I kind of felt like a "savior" for her because not only I was her partner, but also wanted to understand the "male mentality" despite the fact that she was already slightly masculine herself (only in aesthetics, she wasn't afraid of her breasts nor vagina)

However, everything went to shit at the end of 2019, she stopped taking showers because she thought: "hmmm, men are literally troglodytes, so I'm going to stop taking a shower so I'll be like them!"
Weeks passed, she started wearing a binder to hide her breasts, and the problem is that sometimes she was complaining alot due to discomfort from wearing the binder but, I didn't question it, I accepted her.
More weeks went by, she then felt comfortable enough to come out to me as "non-binary" so she used neutral pronouns. I, innocent in those days, thought: "Hmmm, I have to support her (oops transphobia), I care so much about her and I don't want to see her sad, even if I hate it, she still has her vagina so everything is fine, she still looks like a girl anyways, so what's the problem?"

More weeks passed, and she forced me to use masculine pronouns, I accidentally used "she" and she was sad, again, I innocent, I went to talk to her: and I was like: "Sorry!! Yadda Yadda!! I love you and I don't want to see you like this, I will respect you and I love my cute trans boyfriend (ew). "

Then, this was the point that she started being disgusting. She started to mimic me, I was getting very uncomfortable by that time. Everything I did, she mimicked, my clothes, the way I speak, the way I write, the way I am on general. She fucking mimcked me. And, to make it even worst, she picked a name that was very similiar to mine, just a variant. For example, imagine you're named "Mike", and she chooses "Michael" as a new name? I was fucking uncomfortable, she was literally clone of me, and still... I still tolerated her.

This girl with breasts, XX chromosomes, and vagina, starts telling people how much of a gay boy she is, how much of a gay fluffy wuffy yaoi twink boy she is, despite the fucking fact that she's just a fujoshi neet girl who's trying to emulate her yaoi fanfics on me.

When I went to have sex with her, she only wanted anal, never vaginal, never. She kept saying me that I was hurting her, and she wanted to feel more and more pain. However I felt like, uncomfortable and horny comfortable at the same time? I don't know, but I felt like a rapist. She was literally saying "no, no, stop, it hurts, please stop it hurts", but in less than a minute or so she takes it back and wants me to literally open her wide. I guess she has a fetish for pain or some shit. Still, I felt bad because I knew she was feeling pain.

On foreplay she was roleplaying like it was a yaoi, it was cringy. as. fuck.
"Stroke that dick boy, open your mouth wide"
...Said the fujoshi girl that pretended that her clitoris was a dick.
Like, girl, how fucking deluded are you?
I'm literally seeing a vagina and a clit here, you always have let me play with that when you "were a girl", you fucking liked it and I know it. And now out of nowhere, you're only letting me to flick your bean while pretending that it's a dick?
You're just as fucking cringy as these trannies who think that their asshole is a pussy.

Now, the last fucking straw was when I went to fuck her one day and, she asked me if I wanted to be "the bottom boy" (pegging). I just said, no, you're a girl, you have tits, and I refuse to engage in your retarded yaoi fanfic LARP. You're a tranny and you should get help ASAP. Also I'm not gay at all, you're a girl. Fuck off.
I left, ignored her calls, ignored her messages, and then she started to cry and baw and scream how much of a transphobic asshole I am, how much of a asshole I was because "I only used ""him"" for sex" for days until she disappeared and I never heard of her again.

Incels are fucking lucky, they don't have to deal with any of that shit.
In a nutshell:
>Be me, 19 to 20 years old
>Meet a girl in college
>She was cute but kinda tomboyish
>Date her for a year, everything is great
>Girl starts forcing you to engage on her yaoi roleplays
>You're uncomfortable
>She starts mimicking you so much that she steals your personality and is always stalking you so she can be you
>She asks you to engage on a yaoi paianal roleplay, you still do it because you love her
>She asks you to get your ass fucked by her
>You refuse
>She starts crying and screaming and throwing shit on the ground
>Never hear from her ever again
>mfw you thought everything was going to be perfect but she was a fucking psycho that emotionally abused you over the coom
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chickenbutt said:
I feel this on a cellular level. Their presence feels *so* wrong and intrinsically threatening in there, even the effeminate HSTS ones. I like to just give them the stink eye and refuse to speak to them. I hope I'm responsible for at least one of them feeling as uncomfortable as they know they're making women.
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The chill you feel running over your skin and into the pit of your stomach is horrible. Even worse they ALWAYS WANT TO TALK, they don't just focus on whatever task they're on. Oh no, their eyes are roaming and they will try to catch your gaze while you're hoping to finish your business. Can't just wash your hands then do a quick once over.
 
DeMDemonz said:
She was the daughter of a single mother and, she was very shy with people of the opposite sex, I kind of felt like a "savior" for her because not only I was her partner, but also wanted to understand the "male mentality" despite the fact that she was already slightly masculine herself (only in aesthetics, she wasn't afraid of her breasts nor vagina)

However, everything went to shit at the end of 2019, she stopped taking showers because she thought: "hmmm, men are literally troglodytes, so I'm going to stop taking a shower so I'll be like them!"
Weeks passed, she started wearing a binder to hide her breasts, and the problem is that sometimes she was complaining alot due to discomfort from wearing the binder but, I didn't question it, I accepted her.
More weeks went by, she then felt comfortable enough to come out to me as "non-binary" so she used neutral pronouns. I, innocent in those days, thought: "Hmmm, I have to support her (oops transphobia), I care so much about her and I don't want to see her sad, even if I hate it, she still has her vagina so everything is fine, she still looks like a girl anyways, so what's the problem?"

More weeks passed, and she forced me to use masculine pronouns, I accidentally used "she" and she was sad, again, I innocent, I went to talk to her: and I was like: "Sorry!! Yadda Yadda!! I love you and I don't want to see you like this, I will respect you and I love my cute trans boyfriend (ew). "

Then, this was the point that she started being disgusting. She started to mimic me, I was getting very uncomfortable by that time. Everything I did, she mimicked, my clothes, the way I speak, the way I write, the way I am on general. She fucking mimcked me. And, to make it even worst, she picked a name that was very similiar to mine, just a variant. For example, imagine you're named "Mike", and she chooses "Michael" as a new name? I was fucking uncomfortable, she was literally clone of me, and still... I still tolerated her.

This girl with breasts, XX chromosomes, and vagina, starts telling people how much of a gay boy she is, how much of a gay fluffy wuffy yaoi twink boy she is, despite the fucking fact that she's just a fujoshi neet girl who's trying to emulate her yaoi fanfics on me.

When I went to have sex with her, she only wanted anal, never vaginal, never. She kept saying me that I was hurting her, and she wanted to feel more and more pain. However I felt like, uncomfortable and horny comfortable at the same time? I don't know, but I felt like a rapist. She was literally saying "no, no, stop, it hurts, please stop it hurts", but in less than a minute or so she takes it back and wants me to literally open her wide. I guess she has a fetish for pain or some shit. Still, I felt bad because I knew she was feeling pain.

On foreplay she was roleplaying like it was a yaoi, it was cringy. as. fuck.
"Stroke that dick boy, open your mouth wide"
...Said the fujoshi girl that pretended that her clitoris was a dick.
Like, girl, how fucking deluded are you?
I'm literally seeing a vagina and a clit here, you always have let me play with that when you "were a girl", you fucking liked it and I know it. And now out of nowhere, you're only letting me to flick your bean while pretending that it's a dick?
You're just as fucking cringy as these trannies who think that their asshole is a pussy.

Now, the last fucking straw was when I went to fuck her one day and, she asked me if I wanted to be "the bottom boy" (pegging). I just said, no, you're a girl, you have tits, and I refuse to engage in your retarded yaoi fanfic LARP. You're a tranny and you should get help ASAP. Also I'm not gay at all, you're a girl. Fuck off.
I left, ignored her calls, ignored her messages, and then she started to cry and baw and scream how much of a transphobic asshole I am, how much of a asshole I was because "I only used ""him"" for sex" for days until she disappeared and I never heard of her again.

Incels are fucking lucky, they don't have to deal with any of that shit.
In a nutshell:
>Be me, 19 to 20 years old
>Meet a girl in college
>She was cute but kinda tomboyish
>Date her for a year, everything is great
>Girl starts forcing you to engage on her yaoi roleplays
>You're uncomfortable
>She starts mimicking you so much that she steals your personality and is always stalking you so she can be you
>She asks you to engage on a yaoi paianal roleplay, you still do it because you love her
>She asks you to get your ass fucked by her
>You refuse
>She starts crying and screaming and throwing shit on the ground
>Never hear from her ever again
>mfw you thought everything was going to be perfect but she was a fucking psycho that emotionally abused you over the coom
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Here’s the question.
How gay is this situation?
 
Jolyne said:
Does he expect lesbians to make out with him when he forces himself into their spaces IRL?
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Well, he wants it to happen but knows it won't.

I just feel like I will never experience that because far before anyone's mouth comes near mine I will feel the need to disclose that I am trans. I only get one life and I want to live as a lesbian, but I feel I will never get the real, or full, experience. I feel like because of the need to disclose my trans status I will always be a 2nd class lesbian and never really know what it is like.
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Also note how he says he has to tell lesbians he is a troon before kissing.
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1. Troonbians don't pass. He isn't going to fool anyone.
2. Lesbians are never going to kiss him (voluntarily).
3. His fetish for lesbians is so strong he won't even consider bi girls or other troons. He wants a 100% lesbian experiences which is impossible.
4. What a pathetic loser. He might have the chance to find a straight/bi woman but nope he wants lesbian pussy. He wants the kind of woman who isn't available to men because he can't stop cooming to lesbian porn. Troons make their own life way harder than it has to be & then they complain about it.
 
T0oCoolFool said:
And yet... it was still a very scary experience. I'm 5'5 and weigh 110. This guy was at least 6'3 and looked like a body builder that was currently on a cut cycle. Every instinct in my body was screaming that I was in danger. 5 or so years ago, I would have screamed at this guy and ran out, alerting staff that there's a MAN in the women's restroom.
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That's quite frankly a healthy reaction. It's that uncanny valley effect. You're evolutionarily conditioned on the deepest level to be wary of creatures that seem...off.
Personally, I am transphobic in a very literal sense. The sight of them unnerves me. If you've ever read Junji Ito's horror mangas, there's this very frightening character named Miss Fuchi. That's what MtF's remind me of. These scary things that attempt very badly to come off as women but are clearly predatory.
 
DeMDemonz said:
She was the daughter of a single mother and, she was very shy with people of the opposite sex, I kind of felt like a "savior" for her because not only I was her partner, but also wanted to understand the "male mentality" despite the fact that she was already slightly masculine herself (only in aesthetics, she wasn't afraid of her breasts nor vagina)

However, everything went to shit at the end of 2019, she stopped taking showers because she thought: "hmmm, men are literally troglodytes, so I'm going to stop taking a shower so I'll be like them!"
Weeks passed, she started wearing a binder to hide her breasts, and the problem is that sometimes she was complaining alot due to discomfort from wearing the binder but, I didn't question it, I accepted her.
More weeks went by, she then felt comfortable enough to come out to me as "non-binary" so she used neutral pronouns. I, innocent in those days, thought: "Hmmm, I have to support her (oops transphobia), I care so much about her and I don't want to see her sad, even if I hate it, she still has her vagina so everything is fine, she still looks like a girl anyways, so what's the problem?"

More weeks passed, and she forced me to use masculine pronouns, I accidentally used "she" and she was sad, again, I innocent, I went to talk to her: and I was like: "Sorry!! Yadda Yadda!! I love you and I don't want to see you like this, I will respect you and I love my cute trans boyfriend (ew). "

Then, this was the point that she started being disgusting. She started to mimic me, I was getting very uncomfortable by that time. Everything I did, she mimicked, my clothes, the way I speak, the way I write, the way I am on general. She fucking mimcked me. And, to make it even worst, she picked a name that was very similiar to mine, just a variant. For example, imagine you're named "Mike", and she chooses "Michael" as a new name? I was fucking uncomfortable, she was literally clone of me, and still... I still tolerated her.

This girl with breasts, XX chromosomes, and vagina, starts telling people how much of a gay boy she is, how much of a gay fluffy wuffy yaoi twink boy she is, despite the fucking fact that she's just a fujoshi neet girl who's trying to emulate her yaoi fanfics on me.

When I went to have sex with her, she only wanted anal, never vaginal, never. She kept saying me that I was hurting her, and she wanted to feel more and more pain. However I felt like, uncomfortable and horny comfortable at the same time? I don't know, but I felt like a rapist. She was literally saying "no, no, stop, it hurts, please stop it hurts", but in less than a minute or so she takes it back and wants me to literally open her wide. I guess she has a fetish for pain or some shit. Still, I felt bad because I knew she was feeling pain.

On foreplay she was roleplaying like it was a yaoi, it was cringy. as. fuck.
"Stroke that dick boy, open your mouth wide"
...Said the fujoshi girl that pretended that her clitoris was a dick.
Like, girl, how fucking deluded are you?
I'm literally seeing a vagina and a clit here, you always have let me play with that when you "were a girl", you fucking liked it and I know it. And now out of nowhere, you're only letting me to flick your bean while pretending that it's a dick?
You're just as fucking cringy as these trannies who think that their asshole is a pussy.

Now, the last fucking straw was when I went to fuck her one day and, she asked me if I wanted to be "the bottom boy" (pegging). I just said, no, you're a girl, you have tits, and I refuse to engage in your retarded yaoi fanfic LARP. You're a tranny and you should get help ASAP. Also I'm not gay at all, you're a girl. Fuck off.
I left, ignored her calls, ignored her messages, and then she started to cry and baw and scream how much of a transphobic asshole I am, how much of a asshole I was because "I only used ""him"" for sex" for days until she disappeared and I never heard of her again.

Incels are fucking lucky, they don't have to deal with any of that shit.
In a nutshell:
>Be me, 19 to 20 years old
>Meet a girl in college
>She was cute but kinda tomboyish
>Date her for a year, everything is great
>Girl starts forcing you to engage on her yaoi roleplays
>You're uncomfortable
>She starts mimicking you so much that she steals your personality and is always stalking you so she can be you
>She asks you to engage on a yaoi paianal roleplay, you still do it because you love her
>She asks you to get your ass fucked by her
>You refuse
>She starts crying and screaming and throwing shit on the ground
>Never hear from her ever again
>mfw you thought everything was going to be perfect but she was a fucking psycho that emotionally abused you over the coom
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Jesus, I'm sorry you had to go through that. I've heard of lots of instances of male trannies mimicking the women around them and stealing the names of their sisters/female friends to use for themselves, but I think this is the first time I've heard of it happening with a female tranny.

Also this bit:
She was literally saying "no, no, stop, it hurts, please stop it hurts", but in less than a minute or so she takes it back and wants me to literally open her wide. I guess she has a fetish for pain or some shit.
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Is a yaoi thing. It's very common for the character that's on the bottom to be constantly saying no, stop. It's why yaoi gets accused of being rapey. The no, stop pleading even happens when it's consensual sex and the character's actually enjoying it, so it's very normalized. (I'm pretty sure it's also a thing in hentai/Japanese porn as well?)
 
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