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Soul Reaper said:
You can argue that women have the same rights as men, especially in the Us, but there’s statistically, undoubtedly a bias for men in certain areas, such as labor, for example. However, this is simply due to social conditioning as we’re raised to believe all women are fragile and dainty while all men are typically faster and stronger.
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It's not social conditiong. It's biolgical fact. We've made that point in the thread multiple times that there are distinct biological difference between the sexes and it dosen't matter whose spouting off the gender rhetoric be it troons or feminists- those biological differences are real and palpable not socially invented.

I am a woman and am all for equality to an extent but it's stupid and dangerous to make it out like the average women can be faster and stronger or even equal too the average man and it's not something we should be pushing for. I've been in and witness too instances where having a female in the role hindered the process- paramedic and police- because the woman just did not have the physical strength needed.

Troons cannot change their biology but neither can normal people change their own biological reality. You have to know and accept that you have limitations and weak areas depending on your sex because that is just how it is.
 
remiem said:
It's not social conditiong. It's biolgical fact. We've made that point in the thread multiple times that there are distinct biological difference between the sexes and it dosen't matter whose spouting off the gender rhetoric be it troons or feminists- those biological differences are real and palpable not socially invented.

I am a woman and am all for equality to an extent but it's stupid and dangerous to make it out like the average women can be faster and stronger or even equal too the average man and it's not something we should be pushing for. I've been in and witness too instances where having a female in the role hindered the process- paramedic and police- because the woman just did not have the physical strength needed.

Troons cannot change their biology but neither can normal people change their own biological reality. You have to know and accept that you have limitations and weak areas depending on your sex because that is just how it is.
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Of course, by default men are biologically stronger/ faster/ whathaveyou. I'm not claiming men and women are biologically the same.

If physical strength is vital (in areas such as the police force), then they need to do physical evaluations in the sense of testing said strength. There is a bar that needs to be met. I'm just saying it's not impossible for some women to reach that. Personally, I'm against lowering said bar just for women, because they're deemed more fragile. If they're going to get involved in an occupation such as that, they need to be held to the same standards as men.

This example is closer to the point I was trying to make, I believe. Excuse the confusion.
 
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Soul Reaper said:
Of course, by default men are biologically stronger/ faster/ whathaveyou. I'm not claiming men and women are biologically the same.

If physical strength is vital (in areas such as the police force), then they need to do physical evaluations in the sense of testing said strength. There is a bar that needs to be met. I'm just saying it's not impossible for some women to reach that. Personally, I'm against lowering said bar just for women, because they're deemed more fragile. If they're going to get involved in an occupation such as that, they need to be held to the same standards as men.

This example is closer to the point I was trying to make, I believe. Excuse the confusion.
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Part of the misunderstanding here is that we have been (ironically) socially conditioned to think of anything that comes with the term "social" attached to it as "not real". But that's BS. "Social conditioning" is just knowledge we acquired by watching and interacting with people. Sometimes it's passed down to us by our education and upbringing, sometimes we learn it ourselves. And the TRAs and SJWs and other three-letter acronyms out there try to make us go against basic human nature by trying to discredit these things.

We learn by recognizing patterns. Let's use a really simple example: say you live in a place with a lot of fair-skinned people. Everybody is white as a sheet and no one pays it any mind. No one told you how or why, but you know you and everybody around you sunburn very easily. I'm talking full boiled lobster red within 15 minutes of going to the beach. Therefore, it's very reasonable to accept the consensus that chalky-white people sunburn easily. It's perfectly valid information for your "lived experience". Say one day someone shows up who tans instead of getting sunburnt. What do you do then? You amend the consensus: most chalky-white people sunburn, but some (for reasons not yet defined) tan instead.

And that's how things go. We recognize patterns, and the exceptions add caveats that may either reinforce or weaken the pattern. And while stereotypes have a kernel of truth, even if only historically, sometimes the pattern is wrong. Thankfully, that tends to be self-correcting. If you think a group of people is [adjective], being exposed to a large enough sample of people from that group who are not [adjective] will in time bring the pattern back closer to reality. For a good example of that, look up Daryl Davis.

The problem is that the current political climate is one that attempts to outright deny people's own knowledge by calling it "social conditioning" (and therefore "not real"), because clearly the We The People are wrong about everything. Everybody with a functioning pair of eyeballs can tell men and women are different. And yet they screech into our ears that "trans women are real women". It's never "treat trans women with the same respect as women". They never try to show us what's wrong. They tell us what's wrong. It's always "fuck you and your entire lifetime of understanding the world around you! We are right and you WILL think what we tell you to think!".
 
Oh Mermaids, you and your wacky ways!!

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EmpGulcasa said:
Lol, the internet doesn't forget, Mermaids. Fucks sake. I wonder what happened to make them do this.
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We're still trying to figure out what caused the BBC and other organizations to get cold feet and drop their references to Mermaids in their trans youth assistance pages.
 
Polytetrafluoroethylene said:
Trigger warning: H*rry P*tter.
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This delectable trans girl:
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His lewd account is... special. (His "sex work" account is even worse, but I'm not posting any shit from there. x)
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xkSad to see that Gary Brolsma has trooned out.

Now for some weird genders. If you've ever wanted to bang a comic book villain, then villaingender might be just the thing for you!
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Froyogender, for anyone who enjoys eating- you guessed it!- froyo:
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And last, MCRgender, in case slitting your wrists to pop punk didn't make you feel edgy enough:
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These made-up xenogenders & pronouns are just RT/likes bait, nobody will use them, I reassure you nobody in this planet said "Damn, that's my gender!" and decide to indentify as such the rest of their life.
 
Borrisokeane said:
Oh Mermaids, you and your wacky ways!!

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I'm sorry, is that a glaring yellow background, purple underlined hyperlink title, and bare-bones black serif text aligned with the left-most side of the browser window? I wasn't aware Mermaids hired a guy straight from 1998 to design their webpage. If they deleted it for any non-shitty reasons (doubtful) then I would hope it'd be to at least update the legibility/design competence of their website, holy baloney.
 
Chromeo said:
I'm sorry, is that a glaring yellow background, purple underlined hyperlink title, and bare-bones black serif text aligned with the left-most side of the browser window? I wasn't aware Mermaids hired a guy straight from 1998 to design their webpage. If they deleted it for any non-shitty reasons (doubtful) then I would hope it'd be to at least update the legibility/design competence of their website, holy baloney.
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I think that's less their own design and more the wayback machine occasionally having issues saving page formatting.
 
Jean_Porte said:
These made-up xenogenders & pronouns are just RT/likes bait, nobody will use them, I reassure you nobody in this planet said "Damn, that's my gender!" and decide to indentify as such the rest of their life.
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Did you click on any of the links? The comments are full of idiot kids going "THAT'S ME!! THAT'S MY GENDER!!!" Anyone who objects to the concept of xenogenders is called an ableist bigot. It seems like a big meme but most of these kids seriously get offended if you tell them that honkself pronouns and clowngenders are stupid lmao.
 
Corn Flakes said:
We're still trying to figure out what caused the BBC and other organizations to get cold feet and drop their references to Mermaids in their trans youth assistance pages.
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I wonder what's next. More orgs dropping them or a big reveal that destroys Mermaids once and for all? Their ex supporters dropped them like a hot potato basically overnight. They are scared.
 
Polytetrafluoroethylene said:
Did you click on any of the links? The comments are full of idiot kids going "THAT'S ME!! THAT'S MY GENDER!!!" Anyone who objects to the concept of xenogenders is called an ableist bigot. It seems like a big meme but most of these kids seriously get offended if you tell them that honkself pronouns and clowngenders are stupid lmao.
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Unlike "real" trannies, kids with xenogenders have a very high turnover rate, ie. they'll change what they identify every couple weeks/months. It's just dumb kids with too much free time being dumb, like otherkin/fictives of yore. In 5 years none of these kids are going to still identify with whatever bun/buns/bunself pronouns they used online as a 14 year old, it's just gonna be a cringey phase for them a la being scene, or being a weeaboo. This is a big difference from the more "normal" TiMs/TiFs who tend to stick with their gender for the long term, and have lower rates of detransing.
And the other big distinction is most lgbt recognize xenogenders are retarded, even though they still cope for troons.
 
Apteryx said:
When I was a dumb 18 year old, I got a Harry Potter tattoo (yes, rate me stupid). My regret doubled with every dumb JKR "Voldemort is gay, Draco is gay, everyone is gay" tweet. But I think I'm back to liking it if it can serve me as anti-trannie protection.

Ecologist, roller derby troon and Portland's famous "I'm a woman" protester Joseph"Juniper" Simonis posted this picture. Apparently he got shot at by police. What the hell is that massive ass dimple?
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And this one from before he got the bruise. I'll spoiler it - wouldn't want you lads to get too aroused.
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His reputation in the field was already shit but damn, way to once again confirm to everyone that you're absolutely insane and unprofessional.
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Was Bayonetta on riot patrol?

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