Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

  • 🏰 The Fediverse is up. If you know, you know.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
BoxerShorts47 said:
the grassroots right community (former alt-right), dissident right, white nationalists.
Click to expand...
Haven't you dissed a bunch of those people on this thread?

You've laid into people like Nick Fuentes and Catboykami for being "wignats" because they criticize Jews and Israel. Do you think that being openly racist, supporting fascism, praising Nazism, and calling for the age of consent to be lowered to 12-14, are better optics? If so, explain how. Or is this standard just because by your own admission you're part Jewish? Oy vey.

Also, how do you parse idolizing Hitler with how he would feel about you? How far back in the family line are the rabbis, mischling? You're on awfully thin ice here.

1596828123946.png
 
@BoxerShorts47 let me make you an honest question. Why are you still here? Just to suffer? No, seriously. What keeps you comming to this thread? You're an anonymous internet sperg, ain't nothing you're gonna loose by just walking away, no one will even know outside of this small website. And you gain nothing by staying. Any possible benefit you might have at one point got won't actually come anymore. You made too many mistakes for too long, not to mention you're the first unironic hoppean I meet, and I assure you most people consider such ideology a sick joke with no punchline. You won't win over anyone after that. The people coming to this thread are coming to dunk on you, you're a circus attraction, a freakshow, no different than the bearded women of old. This thread is just toxic to you. It will hurt. And you've proven you won't learn, so you won't even get anything out of the hurt. So please. Just... think if it's worth it. Because right now I see no benefit in keeping this on. At least not for you.
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
Since you keep making fun of the "ethnostate" what is your vision for the future? Do you think whites will become a minority, racism will finally end and we'll happily ever after in a post-racial utopia? The rest of the world will adopt USA's liberal, LGBT parades and open borders and race mixing in every nation? You keep attacking me but you fail to address any modern ill or even provide your own vision for the future. It's easy to criticize others, it's hard to actually offer a vision and receive criticism.
Click to expand...

I'm making fun of your answers to my questions. If you haven't been paying attention I started in this entire thread by asking you questions related to your vision and noted issues and problems that I think might happen based on my speculation. Such as "how are you going to actually deport blacks and not cause a total shitshow in the process?" or "How do you intend to handle international trade while being an upfront racist nation that deports its legal citizens?" or "How do you intend to not be labeled a pedo campaign when one of your main talking points is about age of consent reform?" just to give a few examples. I wanted to know your answers to these questions because I was curious and it'd lead to you saying something different then "muh feminism" or "muh low iq negros".

You have a lot of things you want to do, but you seem to just be running off the logic of "if I keep saying I want it, then it will work". That is what my questions were for, I wanted to know how such a visionary as yourself intends to handle the obvious pushback coming your way and how you think you'll manage to keep course once you get what you want.

Based on how you've answered me, or ignored my questions, I already got a pretty good idea of what your plan is, or what lack of plan you have, besides just going to random universities and trying to win against the libs. So what do I gain from really engaging with you at this point?

But to be sporting I'll give you a very brief idea of what I want right now: I want a world without you in it, kill yourself you pedo fuck.
 
Doctor Placebo said:
Haven't you dissed a bunch of those people on this thread?

You've laid into people like Nick Fuentes and Catboykami for being "wignats" because they criticize Jews and Israel. Do you think that being openly racist, supporting fascism, praising Nazism, and calling for the age of consent to be lowered to 12-14, are better optics? If so, explain how. Or is this standard just because by your own admission you're part Jewish? Oy vey.

Also, how do you parse idolizing Hitler with how he would feel about you? How far back in the family line are the rabbis, mischling? You're on awfully thin ice here.
Click to expand...
Did I say that? I think you're conflating ideas.

1. When you start saying shit like "Jews evolved in host nations so they evolved to be parasites... 109 countries... every single time... Talmudic BS and Jewish privilege" you destroy your credibility and expose yourself to huge vulurability. Becahse not all jews are evil and they'll cherry pick a decent jew to make you look like a fool. Most of the JQ crap is the same as white privilege non-sense. Clearly someone like CatboyKami has been in the echo chamber too long.

2. You have to be openly pro-white, you cannot justify the existence of America without white power. This was a nation built by white people for white people. Like I said racism and nationalism are the same idea. One man's racist is another man's nationalist.

3. Racism is just toxic masculinity aka masculinity. If you set any rules or any standards = fascism. Of course this is a total hypocrisy because they never view their own policies like deplatforming or hate speech laws fascist.

4. Nazism again stupid. Ya wanting a border and wanting a nation that looks like you = nazism. The WW2 vets didn't fight against Hitler to make whites a minority and have mixed race grandkids.

5. Age of consent must be lowered to at least ~14. Really import to put women on a path to marriage post puberty. So we gotta normalize lowering age of consent.

6. One days I'll post up my 23 and me.

7. I don't idolize Hitler. I do view him as an important historic figure and his raise to power most closely matches ours. 1776 will never happen again. 1917 won't happen. 1933 is the closest parallel to our modern situation.

Zeke Von Genbu said:
I'm making fun of your answers to my questions. If you haven't been paying attention I started in this entire thread by asking you questions related to your vision and noted issues and problems that I think might happen based on my speculation. Such as "how are you going to actually deport blacks and not cause a total shitshow in the process?" or "How do you intend to handle international trade while being an upfront racist nation that deports its legal citizens?" or "How do you intend to not be labeled a pedo campaign when one of your main talking points is about age of consent reform?" just to give a few examples. I wanted to know your answers to these questions because I was curious and it'd lead to you saying something different then "muh feminism" or "muh low iq negros".

You have a lot of things you want to do, but you seem to just be running off the logic of "if I keep saying I want it, then it will work". That is what my questions were for, I wanted to know how such a visionary as yourself intends to handle the obvious pushback coming your way and how you think you'll manage to keep course once you get what you want.

Based on how you've answered me, or ignored my questions, I already got a pretty good idea of what your plan is, or what lack of plan you have, besides just going to random universities and trying to win against the libs. So what do I gain from really engaging with you at this point?

But to be sporting I'll give you a very brief idea of what I want right now: I want a world without you in it, kill yourself you pedo fuck.
Click to expand...
Look I've met negative nancies before. You're a negative Nancy. You only know how to criticize other people. You didn't answer my question. What is your vision for the future? What do you think will happen when whites become a minority. You think America will remain a 1st world nation? Because of course there will be difficulties with sending the blacks and Hispanics and Asians back home but once you admit this must be done than you'll look for reasons to justify rather than criticize.
 
Boxy will not post his thumb, because he is not white.

Boxy will not post a Vocaroo, because he has a flamboyant lisp.

Boxy will not post a video, because you'd see his mom cleaning his room.

Boxy is too afraid and dumb to do any of these. He has shown no ability to take initiative, like a leader, but instead gets dunked on in a thread instead of promoting himself.
 
Stardust said:
Boxy will not post his thumb, because he is not white.

Boxy will not post a Vocaroo, because he has a flamboyant lisp.

Boxy will not post a video, because you'd see his mom cleaning his room.

Boxy is too afraid and dumb to do any of these. He has shown no ability to take initiative, like a leader, but instead gets dunked on in a thread instead of promoting himself.
Click to expand...
Imagine thinking my room is clean. TOPKEK.
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
Did I say that? I think you're conflating ideas.

1. Becahse not all jews are evil and they'll cherry pick a decent jew to make you look like a fool.
Click to expand...
"They" will do the exact same things with blacks or any other race. There is no argument you can make for Jews that can't be made for other groups of people you want expelled from the country.

Also, since you believe just repeating bullshit is the path to winning the debate, there's no reason that doesn't apply to the JQ. Especially when stuff like Le Happy Merchant meme has already gone mainstream.

Cope harder, Mordecai.

BoxerShorts47 said:
6. One days I'll post up my 23 and me.
Click to expand...
Make that day today. Don't be a pussy. This thread is getting boring.
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
Look I've met negative nancies before. You're a negative Nancy. You only know how to criticize other people. You didn't answer my question. What is your vision for the future? What do you think will happen when whites become a minority. You think America will remain a 1st world nation? Because of course there will be difficulties with sending the blacks and Hispanics and Asians back home but once you admit this must be done than you'll look for reasons to justify rather than criticize.
Click to expand...

Looking at what can go wrong is important because it allows you to develop counter strategies and ways to refine your point so you have less potential issues. I've already explained this multiple times. That is why I'm a "negative nancy" I look for problems so I can better refine what I need to do and it made my work better instead of just running with whatever idea that first came into my head. It is called being critical of your own work you delusional ape.

I already told you my ideal vision of the future: The one without you in it.
 
Doctor Placebo said:
"They" will do the exact same things with blacks or any other race. There is no argument you can make for Jews that can't be made for other groups of people you want expelled from the country.

Also, since you believe just repeating bullshit is the path to winning the debate, there's no reason that doesn't apply to the JQ. Especially when stuff like Le Happy Merchant meme has already gone mainstream.

Cope harder, Mordecai.


Make that day today. Don't be a pussy. This thread is getting boring.
Click to expand...
There is some truth to this. I actually agree that being "ruled" by Jews or Chinese or any based legal immigrant is not good and most Jews need to back to Israel. But the JQ stuff is mostly crap. Jews faced "discrimination" in USA and it was white liberals that helped them break the ethnic barrier. It was white liberals in Europe that broke the walls between the ghetto against the rabbis. White liberals that promote liberal values and the Jews are the truest believers, that's why they empower niggers or Muslims despite these groups hating their guts. The JQ only appeals to "wignats" that want to believe in the "based white race." believe that is was Jews that subverted white people rather than admit a large amount of white people (liberals) are total freaks. So the JQ never works to change the mind of a white liberals because they truly believe their values, they aren't promoting open borders or LGBT because of Jews. This is the big problem.
 
Zeke Von Genbu said:
Looking at what can go wrong is important because it allows you to develop counter strategies and ways to refine your point so you have less potential issues. I've already explained this multiple times. That is why I'm a "negative nancy" I look for problems so I can better refine what I need to do and it made my work better instead of just running with whatever idea that first came into my head. It is called being critical of your own work you delusional ape.

I already told you my ideal vision of the future: The one without you in it.
Click to expand...
WRONG. There is a difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism and you're doing the latter. You're just a negative nancy taking the easy road of criticizing other people rather than taking the hard road of advocating your positions and defending criticism. Like I said your power level (iq) is shit and I can see right through you. Try hard!
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
WRONG. There is a difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism and you're doing the latter. You're just a negative nancy taking the easy road of criticizing other people rather than taking the hard road of advocating your positions and defending criticism. Like I said your power level (iq) is shit and I can see right through you. Try hard!
Click to expand...

Your defense of criticism is either ignoring the question because it is "dumb" in your opinion, going on some sort of other random tangent where you pretend to see right through the person talking like some anime character, or just saying "if I say it enough it'll work". So you're taking the easy way out by just dodging points or giving some vague excuse for why the problems don't matter. "Just trust me it'll work" is a terrible way to garner confidence.
 
Your Local Neko Girl GF said:
Imagine saying "TOPKEK" in 2020.
Click to expand...
top zozzle
BoxerShorts47 said:
WRONG. There is a difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism and you're doing the latter. You're just a negative nancy taking the easy road of criticizing other people rather than taking the hard road of advocating your positions and defending criticism. Like I said your power level (iq) is shit and I can see right through you. Try hard!
Click to expand...
You are a faggot and should definitely kill yourself.
 
Zeke Von Genbu said:
Your defense of criticism is either ignoring the question because it is "dumb" in your opinion, going on some sort of other random tangent where you pretend to see right through the person talking like some anime character, or just saying "if I say it enough it'll work". So you're taking the easy way out by just dodging points or giving some vague excuse for why the problems don't matter. "Just trust me it'll work" is a terrible way to garner confidence.
Click to expand...
This is a case in point example of where ad hominium isn't a fallacy. We can debate the logic of my plans. But the problem here is you have bad ethic. You are arguing bad faith. You are only looking to tear me down. So it doesn't matter what I say, you will just try to find some reason to attack me. Standard troll bad faith argument tactic. You want me to explain good faith my positions but you will only respond with bad faith arguments.
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
There is some truth to this. I actually agree that being "ruled" by Jews or Chinese or any based legal immigrant is not good and most Jews need to back to Israel. But the JQ stuff is mostly crap. Jews faced "discrimination" in USA and it was white liberals that helped them break the ethnic barrier. It was white liberals in Europe that broke the walls between the ghetto against the rabbis. White liberals that promote liberal values and the Jews are the truest believers, that's why they empower niggers or Muslims despite these groups hating their guts. The JQ only appeals to "wignats" that want to believe in the "based white race." believe that is was Jews that subverted white people rather than admit a large amount of white people (liberals) are total freaks. So the JQ never works to change the mind of a white liberals because they truly believe their values, they aren't promoting open borders or LGBT because of Jews. This is the big problem.
Click to expand...
That doesn't sound very based at all. It sounds like by your own admission Jews are a major subversive element in America. Sorry Ezra, I'm afraid your application for leader of the white American ethnostate has been denied. You have to go back. Watch out for Palestinian bus bombers!

1596830592583.png
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
This is a case in point example of where ad hominium isn't a fallacy. We can debate the logic of my plans. But the problem here is you have bad ethic. You are arguing bad faith. You are only looking to tear me down. So it doesn't matter what I say, you will just try to find some reason to attack me. Standard troll bad faith argument tactic. You want me to explain good faith my positions but you will only respond with bad faith arguments.
Click to expand...
Yes.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom