🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

[D.Va]

Any claims of solidarity in furrydom are beyond . It's practically human nature to look the other way for personal gain and it happens all the time. And remember how many wannabes were doubling down to defend Kero in hopes that the evidence wasn't going to stick (AZF, PKRussl, etc.).

Also, the irony of a tranny harem immediately vilifying one another over mental illness seems like something easily glossed over.

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

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Any claims of solidarity in furrydom are beyond . It's practically human nature to look the other way for personal gain and it happens all the time. And remember how many wannabes were doubling down to defend Kero in hopes that the evidence wasn't going to stick (AZF, PKRussl, etc.).

It goes without saying that my last post on this specific point still stands. There's no way they can excuse themselves with all the horrific shit their community has pardoned in the past.

 

[Shqueefa]

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Any claims of solidarity in furrydom are beyond . It's practically human nature to look the other way for personal gain and it happens all the time. And remember how many wannabes were doubling down to defend Kero in hopes that the evidence wasn't going to stick (AZF, PKRussl, etc.).

Also, the irony of a tranny harem immediately vilifying one another over mental illness seems like something easily glossed over.

It's cute when they use "4chan neckbeards." Everyone thinks majority of furries are pedophiles and dogfuckers, which is true

 

[Thatonedude]

Hey, dumbfuck. I know you're not Scrump so stop bullshitting. He's a bit of a tard but even he wouldn't be acting like thi on here. Ohmnog is from AR btw while Scrump is a Britbong fag. That's the biggest fucking giveaway.

If you're trying to claim you're someone else but got into a fight with Ohmdog, you should clarify.

I did clarify a few replies later, I don't think you know how to read.

 

[Clockwork]

Erika's old Facebook has a handful of friends but I have no idea who these people are.

Erika's old Facebook pages mentions Glendale Community College, so I think this might be their LinkedIn page:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-shepard-778183b4

archive: https://archive.li/4Nhsl
The profile photo looks like a match - same nose, eyebrows, mole on neck, style of glasses, etc.

Job history is mostly unremarkable, although they did work for the USAF in 2011-2012.

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

Erika's old Facebook pages mentions Glendale Community College, so I think this might be their LinkedIn page:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-shepard-778183b4

archive: https://archive.md/4Nhsl
The profile photo looks like a match - same nose, eyebrows, mole on neck, style of glasses, etc.

Job history is mostly unremarkable, although they did work for the USAF in 2011-2012.

I'd have to ask a buddy but I thought most standard enlistments with the military are 2 years. They barely did a year and a half. Lil weird...

 

[CIA Nigger]

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Any claims of solidarity in furrydom are beyond . It's practically human nature to look the other way for personal gain and it happens all the time. And remember how many wannabes were doubling down to defend Kero in hopes that the evidence wasn't going to stick (AZF, PKRussl, etc.).

Also, the irony of a tranny harem immediately vilifying one another over mental illness seems like something easily glossed over.

This is why furries are angry when the outside world looks in at their fandom and why they'll never rat each other out to police. They're worried about the pronouns of a pedophile, but even more worried about those darn 4channers laughing at the fact that the fandom is full of pedos/zoos that get covered up. They are more worried about the optics of having pedophiles being arrested than the optics of the fact that they often sweep pedophiles under the rug (Growly, Sangie, among others) to protect their image and keep said pedophiles in business.

Remember the "missing stair" blogpost? There are a lot of furries with sketchy reputations that oldfags know about, but try to cover up so that outsiders don't pay attention to this. I've seen threads on some of the truly terrible people linked here as callout posts because these furries just keep getting away with it. That's why Dogpatch got chewed out by the mob as well, because he was either shielding for abusers or waiting till they were irrelevant to write posts about them as 90% of the fandom and those that mock furries were talking about it.

Oh and the 4chan thing is a strawman because there are a lot of furry *channers, just look at 4chan's /trash/ board or 8chan's old /furry/ board, along with u18chan and the dying lulz.net.

 

[Pukebucket]

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I read the above quote but didn't comment on it because I was busy; late rating etc.

Here's a hypothetical; There's an insular, toxic community with a rampant corruption problem that deeply affects how they are perceived/treated by the public; whistleblowers and people who question breaches of conduct frequently get chased out, ostracized, and sometimes even harassed/doxed for "starting drama", or lose their sense of ethics over time as they pander to an "us and them" mentality. This group exists under a broader umbrella term, but has smaller pocket groups localized within certain cities/regions that serve as social networks. These groups are funded (whether by the government or private groups/individuals is irrelevant) and spent massive quantities of capital on equipment and propaganda intended on recruit new members. They even have expensive conventions where people can go and show off the cool new gear they bought that year with money that could be going towards social development in their local communities.

So did I just describe cops? Or the furry fandom as it currently exists?

No, furries do not govern over the rule of law in current society. But they do, often, interfere with the rule of law within their own group in order to protect themselves from repercussion and reprise, often only casting out their own if information of their actions reaches beyond the scope of their suppression. Oftentimes, this suppression of legal recourse is lauded as "not wanting to make the group look bad".

If about a hundred cops killing people unnecessarily from just over half a million active police officers makes cops a corrupt force of racism and murder, then do at least a hundred active pedophiles and/or dogfuckers from just over half a million furries (namely counting the ones who go to conventions alone) make the furry fandom a corrupt force of rape and sexual violence?

Legitimate answers only.

 

[Banditotron]

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Any claims of solidarity in furrydom are beyond . It's practically human nature to look the other way for personal gain and it happens all the time. And remember how many wannabes were doubling down to defend Kero in hopes that the evidence wasn't going to stick (AZF, PKRussl, etc.).

Also, the irony of a tranny harem immediately vilifying one another over mental illness seems like something easily glossed over.

God I fucking love that. That can't, for a second, consider that maybe, just maybe, the mustachioed pedophile might not be deserving of whatever amount of respect it takes to be called by his chosen pronouns. Also, yes, furries are awful pedophile dogfuckers. No offense, furry kiwis. I'm certain you can handle the banter.

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

No offense, furry kiwis. I'm certain you can handle the banter.

You realize that most furry kiwis are here BECAUSE of shit like this, right? You gucci.

 

[KingFrampt]

Well I got into an argument with someone over the Sparx shit and they threatened to Dox me and found out I live very close to them so they blocked me and had their cuck husband come along and defend her.

Big fucking yikes with these degenerates

Idk if it's their real name or their furry name but it's Kylee Prothro, born in 1995 (or 1996)-09-17

Spoiler: ACCOUNTS

http://archive.md/1d7h6 old FB (http://archive.vn/8cfPv - about page) (http://archive.md/hSVZ6 - family page)
http://archive.md/aKybY tumblr
http://archive.md/FisAr az furs

Spoiler: EMAILS

kayleeprothro@yahoo.com
kayleeprothro143@yahoo.com

Spoiler: USERNAMES

eggnoggie
KayleeMtrench143
Ohmnog
jonas113_3
lime10345
whiskerz10345
whiskerz143
gilert103
kayleeprothro

I'd continue the search but tbh doxing is becoming a bit of a bore, its especially boring with furries seeing as they like to broadcast their entire life online for no one to care about

 

[John Furrman]

No, furries do not govern over the rule of law in current society. But they do, often, interfere with the rule of law within their own group in order to protect themselves from repercussion and reprise, often only casting out their own if information of their actions reaches beyond the scope of their suppression. Oftentimes, this suppression of legal recourse is lauded as "not wanting to make the group look bad".

If about a hundred cops killing people unnecessarily from just over half a million active police officers makes cops a corrupt force of racism and murder, then do at least a hundred active pedophiles and/or dogfuckers from just over half a million furries (namely counting the ones who go to conventions alone) make the furry fandom a corrupt force of rape and sexual violence?

I like that analogy. Personally, I don't know what I, or other people who are displeased can do other than to go onto twitter and point an laugh at the furries there, presumably just to get added to a blockbot list. Many do want to stop the cancer, but me and my friends aren't inundated in the circles who do abuse kid and animals. Unless you're suggesting ops-style infiltration of those zoophile pedo circles or something

Maybe the only thing I can do with my time is build my own following with my bad art, and use that reach to call out and denounce the horrifying stuff as it happens. I'd like to hear what others think could be done at the individual level.

 

[omori]

Point of clarification: Per your screenshot, that list is "followers", not "friends".


Here's AJ Goodtree's own post about the pedophile.

https://www.facebook.com/ajsh3p/posts/2685730185086359

(1) AJ Goodtree - Here's my side of yesterdays tragic turn of events.…

archived 20 Jun 2020 00:38:21 UTC

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“My relationship was going to shit so my solution is to bring in someone new that I’m around a few hours per week for about a year. I dont know where everything went wrong! “
Jfc this shit practically writes itself. I can give this fucker a passing glance and know for sure he’s a deviant.

 

[Uncle Warren]

I like that analogy. Personally, I don't know what I, or other people who are displeased can do other than to go onto twitter and point an laugh at the furries there, presumably just to get added to a blockbot list. Many do want to stop the cancer, but me and my friends aren't inundated in the circles who do abuse kid and animals. Unless you're suggesting ops-style infiltration of those zoophile pedo circles or something

Maybe the only thing I can do with my time is build my own following with my bad art, and use that reach to call out and denounce the horrifying stuff as it happens. I'd like to hear what others think could be done at the individual level.

Don't bother with a following, it's not worth the irritation.

 

[Pukebucket]

I like that analogy. Personally, I don't know what I, or other people who are displeased can do other than to go onto twitter and point an laugh at the furries there, presumably just to get added to a blockbot list. Many do want to stop the cancer, but me and my friends aren't inundated in the circles who do abuse kid and animals. Unless you're suggesting ops-style infiltration of those zoophile pedo circles or something

Maybe the only thing I can do with my time is build my own following with my bad art, and use that reach to call out and denounce the horrifying stuff as it happens. I'd like to hear what others think could be done at the individual level.

Talking openly about the shit that's happening is really the only way to counteract it, but it may lead to the broader fandom distancing themselves from you and the people you associate with. Unfortunately, the fandom at large is somewhat cult-like in that aspect; they will actively shun others who attempt to call out bullshit as it happens, unless they can spin it for PR purposes (hence all the "any people who do bad things are not Real Furries(tm)" sentiments).

Being a safe harbor for individuals who might be dealing with internal issues in the fandom relating to abuse is, in my opinion, probably the best option for anyone who genuinely wants to help; having external resources outside the fandom for individuals who want to leave and maintaining friendships even if they no longer share your hobby is the best thing you can do for anyone being victimized. There are a lot of people who stay in abusive relationships and situations within the furry fandom because they feel that if they leave they will lose their friends/surrogate families, and in a lot of cases this is not an incorrect assumption. It's very, very common for people who no longer want to participate in the fandom itself to fall by the wayside and get excluded by furry friends once they make it clear they no longer wish to come back "into the fold" so to speak. This can be extremely discouraging and depressing for people who have a majority of friends still within the fandom, and most people who have attempted to leave the furry community after dealing with abuse will typically return for this exact reason. People who grew up being weird or not easily accepted by normies tend to make stronger connections with the usually accepting furry fandom, provided they toe the line and keep supporting the community, no matter how toxic and cliquey it gets.

Becoming a famous creator isn't the problem in of itself either, but when a majority of your income comes from a group like the furry fandom it's prone to make people want to offer allowances for questionable behavior in exchange for financial stability and access to networking opportunities. Personally I'd also recommend not trying to get in with popufurs too much if possible; you can certainly look up to artists and befriend them, sure, but it's also worth remembering that they're human beings (regardless of whatever projected animal persona they are marketing) and that your interactions with them (online or offline) do not constitute the entirety of their existence. The amount of idolatry that happens for popufurs and how much shit they can get away with is incredible because so many of their fans feel that they have some intimate knowledge about their lives despite only meeting them at annual furcons or a maybe a furmeet once a month/week.

Don't bother with a following, it's not worth the irritation.

Pretty much this. Try to keep furry fandom stuff as a hobby, not a lifestyle. That's how people get sucked in and have difficulty escaping it.

 

[Kupier]

Erika's old Facebook pages mentions Glendale Community College, so I think this might be their LinkedIn page:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-shepard-778183b4

archive: https://archive.md/4Nhsl
The profile photo looks like a match - same nose, eyebrows, mole on neck, style of glasses, etc.

Job history is mostly unremarkable, although they did work for the USAF in 2011-2012.

I'd have to ask a buddy but I thought most standard enlistments with the military are 2 years. They barely did a year and a half. Lil weird...

Standard military enlistments in America are 4 years minimum. I'm not familiar with Air Force, but it looks like they do offer two year programs with some stipulations he probably didn't meet. He probably got medically separated. There's no other reason to leave at anything less than a solid year mark (4 year, 5 year, 6 year are more standard contracts).

I'm trying to do more digging, but like I said, I am not familiar with AF. It's entirely possible he spent up to a year training, got to his duty station and pussyfooted around for a month before crying about something, and then spent another half a year being separated.

Either that, or he did drugs and got yeeted asap. That's the only way to get out quickly.

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

Standard military enlistments in America are 4 years minimum. I'm not familiar with Air Force, but it looks like they do offer two year programs with some stipulations he probably didn't meet. He probably got medically separated. There's no other reason to leave at anything less than a solid year mark (4 year, 5 year, 6 year are more standard contracts).

I'm trying to do more digging, but like I said, I am not familiar with AF. It's entirely possible he spent up to a year training, got to his duty station and pussyfooted around for a month before crying about something, and then spent another half a year being separated.

Either that, or he did drugs and got yeeted asap. That's the only way to get out quickly.

Both of those are incredibly likely, let's face it. It might even be both.

 

[Thatonedude]

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Idk if it's their real name or their furry name but it's Kylee Prothro, born in 1995 (or 1996)-09-17

Spoiler: ACCOUNTS

http://archive.md/1d7h6 old FB (http://archive.vn/8cfPv - about page) (http://archive.md/hSVZ6 - family page)
http://archive.md/aKybY tumblr
http://archive.md/FisAr az furs

Spoiler: EMAILS

kayleeprothro@yahoo.com
kayleeprothro143@yahoo.com

Spoiler: USERNAMES

eggnoggie
KayleeMtrench143
Ohmnog
jonas113_3
lime10345
whiskerz10345
whiskerz143
gilert103
kayleeprothro

I'd continue the search but tbh doxing is becoming a bit of a bore, its especially boring with furries seeing as they like to broadcast their entire life online for no one to care about

Doing God's work, they threatened and got doxxed themselves.

This is why furries are angry when the outside world looks in at their fandom and why they'll never rat each other out to police. They're worried about the pronouns of a pedophile, but even more worried about those darn 4channers laughing at the fact that the fandom is full of pedos/zoos that get covered up. They are more worried about the optics of having pedophiles being arrested than the optics of the fact that they often sweep pedophiles under the rug (Growly, Sangie, among others) to protect their image and keep said pedophiles in business.

Remember the "missing stair" blogpost? There are a lot of furries with sketchy reputations that oldfags know about, but try to cover up so that outsiders don't pay attention to this. I've seen threads on some of the truly terrible people linked here as callout posts because these furries just keep getting away with it. That's why Dogpatch got chewed out by the mob as well, because he was either shielding for abusers or waiting till they were irrelevant to write posts about them as 90% of the fandom and those that mock furries were talking about it.

Oh and the 4chan thing is a strawman because there are a lot of furry *channers, just look at 4chan's /trash/ board or 8chan's old /furry/ board, along with u18chan and the dying lulz.net.

A good example of furries hiding pedophiles is the RCFox situation where a good chunk of groups banned and blocked anything that had to do with him even though he killed himself before his trial. The only post that were allowed was the "RIP UWU" ones. If you want to get into a more recent one there is Ruffles Ridges who defends fucking dogs to the grave and runs "World of Furries". (This is 2018 shit but he's still around) Although being kicked from places "popular" people still went over to support him.

 

[CIA Nigger]

Talking openly about the shit that's happening is really the only way to counteract it, but it may lead to the broader fandom distancing themselves from you and the people you associate with. Unfortunately, the fandom at large is somewhat cult-like in that aspect; they will actively shun others who attempt to call out bullshit as it happens, unless they can spin it for PR purposes (hence all the "any people who do bad things are not Real Furries(tm)" sentiments).

Being a safe harbor for individuals who might be dealing with internal issues in the fandom relating to abuse is, in my opinion, probably the best option for anyone who genuinely wants to help; having external resources outside the fandom for individuals who want to leave and maintaining friendships even if they no longer share your hobby is the best thing you can do for anyone being victimized. There are a lot of people who stay in abusive relationships and situations within the furry fandom because they feel that if they leave they will lose their friends/surrogate families, and in a lot of cases this is not an incorrect assumption. It's very, very common for people who no longer want to participate in the fandom itself to fall by the wayside and get excluded by furry friends once they make it clear they no longer wish to come back "into the fold" so to speak. This can be extremely discouraging and depressing for people who have a majority of friends still within the fandom, and most people who have attempted to leave the furry community after dealing with abuse will typically return for this exact reason. People who grew up being weird or not easily accepted by normies tend to make stronger connections with the usually accepting furry fandom, provided they toe the line and keep supporting the community, no matter how toxic and cliquey it gets.

Becoming a famous creator in of itself isn't the problem in of itself either, but when a majority of your income comes from a group like the furry fandom it's prone to make people want to offer allowances for questionable behavior in exchange for financial stability and access to networking opportunities. Personally I'd also recommend not trying to get in with popufurs too much if possible; you can certainly look up to artists and befriend them, sure, but it's also worth remembering that they're human beings (regardless of whatever projected animal persona they are marketing) and that your interactions with them (online or offline) do not constitute the entirety of their existence. The amount of idolatry that happens for popufurs and how much shit they can get away with is incredible because so many of their fans feel that they have some intimate knowledge about their lives despite only meeting them at annual furcons or a maybe a furmeet once a month/week.

The thing is too exposing the bullshit the fandom does is a very risky endeavor and it should say a lot that the most active place where furries shit on furries (this site) is run by someone who is not a furry. Most furries don't have the balls to do it. They are very worried about retaliation and it has in fact happened to a few furries who became extremely vocal about the mob (without being a part of any sort of blacklisted furry groups). Furries don't want to lose all their furry friendships and many of them quite frankly suck ass at making "normie" friends. They're nerds making friends in nerd communities, and they had to sift through all the low-IQ speds who want to RP to get to having people they think are their friends.

Cancel culture is shockingly effective because a lot of the targets don't expect it or even know what set the mob on them. It's a mix of the famous Life Ruination guides you'd see in the early imageboard days mixed with Scientology's effective disconnection and Suppressive Person policies. The end result is a damaging combo of losing your job/career and friends because some pissed off troons who hate themselves every waking hour decided to ruin your life. It works because nobody expects to lose their so-called longtime friends or career over a callout post for having a slightly incorrect opinion. It also works because no victims of it end up snapping (in minecraft) or even suing, but instead end up taking the Alec Holowka route and killing themselves or falling into obscurity. It really fucking works in the furry fandom because quite a few furries are either true believers or they're doing it out of fear they'll end up blocked too.

In the furry fandom there are quite a few victims. Quite a few suddenly find it harder to get art when a non-canceled furry can get it from anyone if they have money. Artists will find business sink as furries tell the others that this artist is so and so. High-profile victims will find themselves attacked if they make art for a blacklisted furry to enforce the status quo and vice versa. Some DFE'd after their alt accounts with cub art got exposed. Some like Lapfox fell into extreme obscurity after being unable to DJ at events such as Anthrocon (which drew in big crowds).

When I think of burned out furries who ended up calling out the fandom hard, all I can think of is the couple behind Dreamkeepers (who lean center-right politically IIRC, not uncommon with older furs). They got fucked hard with hit pieces by Dogpatch and whatnot for doing problematic things like drawing art for Milo. Then when they wrote a Medium.com article about how shit the fandom is when the Zoosadist leaks came out, they found themselves suddenly unable to secure tables at cons and pushed into writing posts that'd fit in this subforum shitting on the fandom hard while having to sell online instead.

The only reason it didn't fuck people like the couple behind Dreamkeepers harder or someone like Regan is they're diversifying outside the fandom and into the "indie comics" scene. If you want to even call out the furry fandom you will come under the microscope, you will get banned from cons left and right, and you will really hope that nerds who aren't furries will be ready to back you up because the furry fandom will sure be ready to throw you under the bus. If you're smart you likely already know that people will back you up more if you pull the "I'm not a furry, I just liked Disney movies/cartoons" excuse. It's also why Stardock is still around despite Brad Wardell being canceled multiple times, because Stardock built up an audience from targeting a loyal OS/2 market. He targeted people who remained loyal customers instead of furries.

 

[omori]

Pedos and other scum continue to flourish in the fandom because these idiots would much rather do stupid callouts that will make the accused go dark then return under a new alias instead of dealing with the problem permanently by calling the proper authorities. This happens every fucking month and they continue to look the other way and deny deny deny.

Edit: Also fuck you if you think I’m gonna respect the she/her pronouns of a chomo with a pedostache.