Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

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Karl_der_Grosse said:
Most of his posts are just dumb pol-speak, but every now and then he makes a post with correct grammar, well-structured sentences, and actual fleshed-out arguments. It's one of the main reasons I suspect this whole thing is someone taking us on a ruse-cruise. I don't even mind, I'm having fun.
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I think @Fareal meant @Drain Todger 's writing. I am completely unfamiliar with Drain, but from this thread he seems like a pretty smart dude (even if he apparently jacks off to MLP or something?)
 
MarineTrainedTard said:
I think @Fareal meant @Drain Todger 's writing. I am completely unfamiliar with Drain, but from this thread he seems like a pretty smart dude (even if he apparently jacks off to MLP or something?)
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My point remains valid, go back through @BoxerShorts47's posts and you'll find four or five posts where he's coherent and writes in perfect English, formatted into proper sentences and paragraphs.
 
Karl_der_Grosse said:
My point remains valid, go back through @BoxerShorts47's posts and you'll find four or five posts where he's coherent and writes in perfect English, formatted into proper sentences and paragraphs.
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Just might have to do that, but that's an awful lot of word-vomit to wade through.

I have been second guessing everything and considering the possibility that he's some kind of weird avant-garde troll, but if that's the case he's still retarded for pretending to be retarded tbh
 
Karl_der_Grosse said:
My point remains valid, go back through @BoxerShorts47's posts and you'll find four or five posts where he's coherent and writes in perfect English, formatted into proper sentences and paragraphs.
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It's also possible he stole it from elsewhere too or just bothered to put forth effort, he earlier admitted he's lazy with his grammar most of the time. This being a ruse is also possible too, admittedly.
 
Karl_der_Grosse said:
My point remains valid, go back through @BoxerShorts47's posts and you'll find four or five posts where he's coherent and writes in perfect English, formatted into proper sentences and paragraphs.
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There is a possibility that this guy is playing us, but there's a lot of other possibilities too. Raging alcoholic that sorta gives up the more drunk they get, rage posting and feeling the need to post quality over quantity as people dogpile, weird time specific mental retardation.

All I know is that I'm enjoying the ride, and I'll miss it when it's over.
 
Karl_der_Grosse said:
My point remains valid, go back through @BoxerShorts47's posts and you'll find four or five posts where he's coherent and writes in perfect English, formatted into proper sentences and paragraphs.
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I noticed that, too. Moments of brief lucidity, like the sun peeking through the clouds.

How long before he falls off the hairy Pinoy butthole NoFap wagon and finds himself deep in the brain fog again?
 
In that case, I wonder if he's bi-polar or suffers from some other mental illness.

I mean, other than autism and terminally low IQ, of course.
 
MarineTrainedTard said:
I think @Fareal meant @Drain Todger 's writing. I am completely unfamiliar with Drain, but from this thread he seems like a pretty smart dude (even if he apparently jacks off to MLP or something?)
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Yeah, I meant @Drain Todger. We had a talk elsewhere about prose writing and style, and his post was technically very well written. IIRC Drain wants to publish or self publish at some point, so it’s great to see he’s obviously been working on his prose writing.👍
 
Fareal said:
Yeah, I meant @Drain Todger. We had a talk elsewhere about prose writing and style, and his post was technically very well written. IIRC Drain wants to publish or self publish at some point, so it’s great to see he’s obviously been working on his prose writing.👍
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Judging from just forum posting is difficult but he's already got a better shot of getting published than @BoxerShorts47 does simply because he's way more clear and persuasive in his writing style alone
 
MarineTrainedTard said:
@BoxerShorts47 Since you like arbitrary debate rules, here are some:

1.) Your next post MUST contain an explanation of your Twitter, which we have found here:
archive.md

Media Tweets by James Garcia (@boxershorts47) / Twitter

archived 4 Feb 2020 04:23:57 UTC
archive.md archive.md

2.) In the same post, you MUST provide photographic evidence that you are white.

If you do not do BOTH of these things, then you are admitting to being a Filipino homosexual.
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He may be right that he isn't that garcia on twitter. I searched james garcia on facebook more than 7 result pop up. It may be just a coincidence but @BoxerShorts47 refuse to provide proof.
I think he's legit schizophrenic, even as a troll he must be really determined to post for entire day without sleep
 
Drain Todger said:
White nationalism is also identity politics.
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Yes and the alt-right said, "all politics is identity politics." Ideology is an identity.

Drain Todger said:
Does no one stand up in defense of Enlightenment values anymore? A sort of primitive medievalism is creeping into our societies and into our discourse. What you are is increasingly given more weight and more importance than who you are, almost to the point of superstition. We are backsliding and reverting to the previous condition of humanity.
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No, we've analyized these values and realized they were completely theoretical and untested just like social justice today.

Once you accept these values, get Whig history, the constant shift leftward of the overton window.
Whig history: SJW > Woke Liberal > Center-Left (Colorblind) > Center-Right (libertarian) > Alt-Light > Conservative (Alt-Right)
The reason for this is because these values will not enable you to build a sustainable non-degenerate society. So each group loses the group that is 1 step leftward.
e.g. Destiny (Woke-Liberal) vs No BullShit (~Libertarian / Alt-Light) https://youtu.be/gX7Q1L7q8Sg

Drain Todger said:
Centuries ago, everyone respected the divine right of kings. No one was to question the king. Why? Because he's a king. He has the identity of a king, therefore, he derives his authority from divine mandate, ergo, everything he says is given special weight and consideration. The key advancement of the Enlightenment was the realization that kings were merely men, not magical beings whose words carried special meaning above that of the peasantry.

Now, we are in the process of raising certain groups of people above others, prizing "lived experience" over imagination, and identity over reason. We are exhuming our kings. Religion and bureaucracy provide little comfort anymore in a world where everyone is atomized and alone and desperate for a group identity to cling to.

I have been warning people for years about the end of democracy and the rise of neo-feudalism, with corporate city-states taking precedence over the nation-state. I am now watching it unfold right before my very eyes. Everyone has their own little cause célèbre, and every corporation from coast to coast is patting them on the ass for it.

The coming era appears set to be ruled by passion over rationality, by instinct over deliberation, and by feelings instead of facts. Everyone is falling into the same exact trap.
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1. We went from the Church (500-1500) to the Monarchy [1500-1776 (US)/1789(FR)] to Liberal Democracy 1789(US Cons.)-Present and by the same logic, democracy is not set in stone. Why should democracy be worshipped any more than monarchy?
2. The problem is democracy has failed. Short summary: the general public is either low iq or uninformed the MSM manipulates them. Without that MSM manipulation, democracy will degenerate into mob rule but thanks to social media, that's inevitable and occuring right now.
3. If you want certificates and credentials from your doctor or judge than why not the average voter? We're moving past democracy and the future is voter tests.

4.
White Experience = Stereotype, Bias, Prejudice
Non White Experience = Lived Experience
Double Standard

Problem is you. You accepted this; reality and reason don't matter when you denied whites the ability to judge others by the content of their character, when you called those people racists and said it was good for them to get fired from their job, when you accepted liberal frame of making decisions based on stereotypes aka statistical differences or average, as being bad. When you accepted anti racism anti discrimination (aka open borders and no accountability for non whites), you laid the foundation for the SJWs today.

Drain Todger said:
Our economy was always bullshit. I mean that literally. We sell bullshit as a business. The biggest sector of the American economy is the FIRE industry, with services after that.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=mzJmTCYmo9g
The economy of the US is financialized and virtualized to the point where bullshit is our #1 export. We literally sell bullshit and use the proceeds of that sale to buy plastic trinkets from China, and then my fellow Americans stupidly go into debt to buy these plastic trinkets, and then that debt is sold off as more bullshit, and then we throw the plastic junk in a landfill so we can buy more. Our economy operates like the world's dumbest perpetual motion machine, the ultimate product of which is over-mortgaged properties, heaps of credit card debt, and literal mountains of waste.

If our economy collapses, guess what? An entire string of fucking dominoes will collapse that will reverberate across the entire planet. If America is suddenly impoverished as shit and loses all of our buying power, China will have no one to sell their products to. If China has no one to sell their products to, then they won't have enough money to import enough food to feed their population, and then that population will decide they'd rather eat the CCP instead. Then, China would collapse into civil war and the entire developed world would lose what is pretty much the sole source of all our tech goods.

The US has a half-again more arable land than China does, and less than a quarter the mouths to feed. I don't think most people realize this, but China has a tiny, tiny region of arable land relative to their population, and the CCP know this, and believe me, they are afraid.
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Look, I agree with you that the economy has systemic problems. In short the issue is income inequality. The total economy is a pie and if the rich are earning more, that means the poor earn proportionally less. Now there are some ways to mitigate this issue and restructure society BUT talking about the "economy" is a coping mechanism. The left does this too where they want to conflate race and class into post-colonial narrative to explain the under-performance of certain non whites. The problem is these are 2 separate issues. And you cannot build a modern nation without accepting race realism (hispanics will not ever build a New Europe) and replacing the simple tax deducible system for families with a more complex eugenics system,


Karl_der_Grosse said:
My point remains valid, go back through @BoxerShorts47's posts and you'll find four or five posts where he's coherent and writes in perfect English, formatted into proper sentences and paragraphs.
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1D; iz diz spelin
2D; I can spell!
3D: I can spell and form complicated sentances with proper grammer.
4D: i am wasting my time using proper grammer and spelling because all these posters are bad faith trolls and they will disagree with whatever i write anyways.

You gotta think 4d, this is not 12th grade english class, you don't need to always use proper MLA formatting. 3D = following the rules. 4D = "Some rules can be bent. Others can be broken. Understand?"
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
1D; iz diz spelin
2D; I can spell!
3D: I can spell and form complicated sentances with proper grammer.
4D: i am wasting my time using proper grammer and spelling because all these posters are bad faith trolls and they will disagree with whatever i write anyways.

You gotta think 4d, this is not 12th grade english class, you don't need to always use proper MLA formatting. 3D = following the rules. 4D = "Some rules can be bent. Others can be broken. Understand?"
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Ok, I'm leaning he's a genuine tard now.
 
The Last Stand said:
IQ isn't always an accurate measurement of one's intelligence or skill.
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Maybe not but the biggest IQ test is if you make public claims about your IQ, because it invariably means you're lying and also you actually have a really low IQ, and in the rare cases your IQ claims are true, you are still literally autistic and a pants-shitting moron with no actual accomplishments, because if you had actual accomplishments, you'd claim those instead of your IQ that was faked anyway.

I'll give @Drain Todger as an example of a high IQ retard. He doesn't have to make dumb claims about his IQ because he is entirely capable of posting gigantic textwalls that only someone with high IQ and near zero social intelligence could possibly think it was okay to post. You will never see something like this from @BoxerSharts47 because while it is possible for a highly intelligent person to pretend to be stupid, it is completely impossible for a stupid person, a retard, a moron like this guy to pretend to be intelligent. It's just not something that's going to happen. You will never see some highly intelligent but completely autistic manifesto from @BoxerSharts47 because he is too dumb to do that.

He isn't even white.
 
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