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DanteAlighieri said:
Except we just know that if Trump tried this they would be screaming bloody murder about how racist, evil, Nazi-like, authoritarian, dictator-like, etc he is and how it's not a big deal and there's no proof of human to human spreading courtesy of the WHO.
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Quite. And yet Kurt uses the moviebob-esque reference of "anti science."

It's like trying to run a business where you have to treat toddlers sitting on the board of directors as full fledged adults with something to contribute.
 
There's a joke in there somewhere that involves the phrase "fecal to oral route" and ends with the phrase "Eat shit, Kikenbald"
 
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Ok. So let me get this straight.

The US would need to implement 6-8 weeks of full lock down. Just complete an total isolation for 300 million americans. And then, because this is global, they would also need to enforce the exact same on every nation on earth. IF they didn't, the US would also need to remain completely isolated from the rest of the world, because a single infected person making into the US could very quickly render that 6-8 weeks completely and totally pointless.


There is only way where you could render Corona a non-issue in 6-8 weeks with no vaccine, and that is mandatory infections for everyone.
 
Ghostse said:
Ok. So let me get this straight.

The US would need to implement 6-8 weeks of full lock down. Just complete an total isolation for 300 million americans. And then, because this is global, they would also need to enforce the exact same on every nation on earth. IF they didn't, the US would also need to remain completely isolated from the rest of the world, because a single infected person making into the US could very quickly render that 6-8 weeks completely and totally pointless.


There is only way where you could render Corona a non-issue in 6-8 weeks with no vaccine, and that is mandatory infections for everyone.
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20th century facism: bread lines
21st century facism: virus lines
 
DanteAlighieri said:
Except we just know that if Trump tried this they would be screaming bloody murder about how racist, evil, Nazi-like, authoritarian, dictator-like, etc he is and how it's not a big deal and there's no proof of human to human spreading courtesy of the WHO.
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Don't forget to lick a toilet seat and hug a chinese to own the bad, racist Cheeto Man!
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Flexo said:
FINALLY.

I'm finally thrilled to hear SOME idea of what Trump would have to do.

It's all clearly bullshit but it is at least an argument. Oh I would love to see their work on this. Especially since the entire premise relies on the government mobilizing and deploying such a massive effort in 6-8 weeks. And boy isn't THAT a pipe dream.

(I seriously grow tired of these idiots who seem to have no concept at just how BIG the USA is.)
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I wonder if these people are so convinced of their government's theoretical omnipotence that they are trying to apply the Problem of Evil to it?
 
Jarolleon said:
I wonder if these people are so convinced of their government's theoretical omnipotence that they are trying to apply the Problem of Evil to it?
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Bingo.

Several conversations I've had with these kinds of people:

"Government should do [something]!"
"Ok. What do we do or what is the plan if something goes wrong?"
*blink* "I don't understand your question."

(Like the time I had to explain to someone regulatory capture. Good kid but they were just totally unable to grok the concept.)
 
The Do Somethings are especially insidious because there's always this assumption on their part that doing something would be better than nothing. Every time you point out the potential fallout from whatever the "something" is that could be worse than the original problem, their automatic response is "But we can't just do nothing!" So since it's a basic assumption on their part that you absolutely have to Do Something and that will always be better than just leaving things alone, they're never going to get out of the loop of pouncing on the first proposal made by people they think are trustworthy no matter how blatantly stupid and obviously destined to fail it is.

The only out, of course, being when someone with an R beside their name, like Trump, Does Something and then clearly that was the wrong thing to do that has had nothing but bad consequences, how stupid could they be to think they had to Do Something?
 
So ObamaGate can't trend but its totally cool for Anti-Semitism to trend via #Covid-1948. I don't have any stake in Palestine or Israel, but just point out what jack thinks is trend worthy..

These are the top results, not cherry picked.
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The saddest thing is, even if Obama did commit the treason that's been outlined in this thread, people will say it's not a problem because how much they hate bad orange man.

It's so fucking pathetic.
 
Qriist said:
Truly tinfoil hat stuff here. I'm guardedly certain about motivations and connections, by no means zealously positive.

Anyways.

I'm *generally* on board with Barr. I have a lot of respect for him. I think he's a morals over money kind of guy. I'm not saying he's 100% procedurally clean (I don't think he is), and he views the POTUS position a bit more of a monarch role than I would like, but I think it's very safe to say he hates pedophiliac operations with a passion.

My evidence for this is strictly circumstantial and mostly confined to more recent happenings.

Take Jefferey Epstein. The guy had been coming and going for over a decade after his sex offender status. The impetus for reopening the case was actually congressman Ben Sasse causing a ruckus. However, Bill Barr was 2 weeks or less from his confirmation as Attorney General for the second time. I find it really hard to believe an incoming nominee (who has already held the position) wouldn't have been at least generally informed about such a huge case.

Consider that since Feburary 2019 there has been 1236 child abuse convictions, a 5% increase from 1177 convictions in about the same preceeding time period. That's consistent with his previous handlings as AG, where he moved more manpower from counterintelligence. (Yes, I get gang violence isn't child abuse per se) (also, really dirty number crunching, sorry.) Source
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I think it's important that Barr's operations go after the users and not just the site owners. Notable differences here:
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There's also the fact that Barr himself was CIA for 6 years in the 70s; he was lowlevel, sure, but who know what he came across. He probably understands the glowies.
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Here's where the tinfoil starts to apply.

I think Barr knows of the existence of the Finders as a predatory cult that's (allegedly) funded by the CIA. Back in October 2019 the FBI dropped the first of (currently) 3 declassified compilations of records. The FBI, the CIA, Customs, and Interpol and who knows who else are all involved with this group that's based out of DC and came to national spotlight in 1987. No really, facts of agency involvement are coming from the FBI files. KF even has a thread on the Finders.

Ted Gunderson (deceased former FBI chief) was one of the most outspoken about the Finders and claimed to have personally written to William Barr during while Barr was the AG. I don't doubt he sent the letter. Here's the letter to Barr that I got in a dump of other Finders files but I don't know the source and can't verify it. I believe it's from a FOIA request.
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The thing is, I don't believe everything Ted says. He goes on and on about symbolism (in one case saying the stars on the GOP elephant "inverting" means they turned Satanic) so I think he was a bit off his rocker, or perhaps just too used to looking for hidden meanings in mundane things.

Let's loop this back into Barr. The Finder's vault files so far released primarily deal with incidents in the 80's and 93/94, but there are multiple documents sprinkled through Barr's term as AG. He was ousted in early 1993 as part of the change of administration from Bush senior to Clinton. Barr may or may not have actually got the letter from Gunderson but! in 1993 there was a tv station that wanted to do a Finders special. Multiple members of Congress got involved. Given those two facts I think it likely that the AG was apprised of the situation. I don't have any proof of that, mind you.
Finally, let's look at HRC.

She was a low level intern on the counsel of the prosecution of Nixon during his impeachment. Coincidentally this is the exact timeframe when MKUltra messed up and would later come to light because some 20k of the files intended to be panic-purged were misfiled into some other random place. I don't think she was involved in MKUltra in any way, just an interesting connection.

Everyone under the sun has heard about Bill Clinton's logged flights on the Lolita Express, as well as the suiciding memes, the private server, Benghazi, etc.

Instead of rehashing that I'm just going to
A) remind you that Clinton reportedly had a tantrum of fear after the 2016 election and
B) provide you two short clips, one of "We've Read the Documents" linking part of an interview to the Finders #2 vault drop, and one MSNBC news clip that aired shortly after the Benghazi congressional inquiries. (I don't know the date, sorry.)

(There are a few seconds of quiet in the middle, it's not your speakers.)
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With every last exceptional detail in mind, the reason Flynn is the target is because he isn't compromised and wouldn't back down from the CIA audit. In this kooky fucking theory Flynn's prosecution honestly is not about Trump or Barr or even Flynn himself. It's about protecting a trail of pedophiliac activities that implicate many people.

Are there holes in this theory? Yes. I make multiple assumptions.

Am I biased? Yes. In particular, I may have laid what I want to happen onto Barr's motivations without justifiable cause.

Is the theory wackadoodle? Yes. (What? You were expecting an argument?)

That said, I think it's a fairly solid connection of disparate threads in light of everything uncovered in the last week.
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That's all true though. We saw it come to light during the freakout over Pizzagate, where institutional pedophiles like Peter Bright of Ars Technica were mobilized to run interference to "debunk" it.
 
Jigglyjogglers said:
The Do Somethings are especially insidious because there's always this assumption on their part that doing something would be better than nothing. Every time you point out the potential fallout from whatever the "something" is that could be worse than the original problem, their automatic response is "But we can't just do nothing!" So since it's a basic assumption on their part that you absolutely have to Do Something and that will always be better than just leaving things alone, they're never going to get out of the loop of pouncing on the first proposal made by people they think are trustworthy no matter how blatantly stupid and obviously destined to fail it is.

The only out, of course, being when someone with an R beside their name, like Trump, Does Something and then clearly that was the wrong thing to do that has had nothing but bad consequences, how stupid could they be to think they had to Do Something?
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I think you're really seeing it a lot more with the Wu Flu because "doing something" is synonymous with "doing nothing" in this case. Slacktivism doesn't get much better than when you're being told to stay home and do nothing all day. So when people are naturally getting upset at the continued lockdowns that could very well be doing more harm than good, these dumbfucks screech their heads off about "you're being selfish!" and "you're addicted to work!" and "you want people to DIE!" No, we're just fucking tired of being stuck in our homes with nothing to do, all while bills and rent and mortgages keep piling up and businesses are on the verge of shutting down for good. And all this over a virus with a sub-1% mortality rate. A virus that isn't an issue for basically anyone in the working-age population. A virus that doesn't even cause symptoms in a large number of those who contract it.

At this point, I almost want a fleet of cropdusters to spray the Wu Flu on everyone in the country so we can get this over and done with all at once. No more slacktivism, no more unconstitutional mandates, just reopen the country and let us get back to normal.
 
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