🐱 MyPillow CEO Preaches Christian Lies During Trump’s Useless Pandemic Briefing

MyPillow CEO Preaches Christian Lies During Trump’s Useless Pandemic Briefing

The White House is not a church.

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No TV network should be airing Donald Trump‘s daily rallies. They’re not informative, and they’ve become a substitute for his campaign rallies, where he mocks the press for quoting him directly, stirs up resentment toward his perceived enemies, and throws out slurs against groups he doesn’t like. Every network can easily air clips afterwards, fact-check them as they do it, and offer the full video online for anyone who wants to watch it. It would be a better public service if they did that.


Today’s episode was a perfect example of why.

Rather than offer useful information, Trump ceded time to Mike Lindell, the CEO of MyPillow and a low-level hero among MAGA cultists, who used the opportunity to praise Jesus during the “briefing” with the presidential seal right below him on the podium.


“God gave us grace on Nov. 8, 2016, to change the course we were on,” Lindell said, referencing the day of Trump’s election. “God had been taken out of our schools and lives, a nation had turned its back on god. I encourage you to use this time at home to get back in the word, read our Bibles and spend time with our families.”

Lindell, standing behind a podium bearing the presidential seal, said Trump “gave us so much hope” and cited the strong economy that has since cratered due to the virus.

“With our great president, vice president, and this administration and all the great people in this country praying daily, we will get through this and get back to a place that’s stronger and safer than ever,” he said.


We know Trump lies. But now he’s bringing in people to lie for him.


Lindell is wrong. God was never “taken out” of school because students are welcome to pray or read their bibles. Forced Christian prayers are no longer acceptable — as it should be. (Trump hasn’t changed that, either.)

The nation hasn’t “turned its back on God,” since the majority of people are still religious. They’re just starting to recognize that white evangelical Christianity has become a cover for a political party that cares more about power than Jesus. If anything, Trump has only made that distinction more clear.

And the idea that this administration, which dragged its feet in responding to COVID-19 while refusing to provide complete aid to states if their governors don’t show sufficient obsequiousness, is going to make us stronger has been disproven more times that we should have to count.

It is appalling that anyone, much less a president, would waste the nation’s time by allowing a pandemic briefing to turn into a church service. It’s even more disturbing how few people care. Then again, given all the ways this administration tramples over the Constitution, you can hardly blame the media for not sufficiently covering them all.

 

[Marissa Moira]

No actually there's not. That's the funny part of Christianity is how fractured and overly complicated it is.

Do you think muslims don't have a divide? The Sunni and Shia have been at each other's necks for centuries. Jews have numerious denominations as well. The Orthodox jewish belefs function differently from other factions. So that's the big 3 religions who all have entirely different denominations within each other and Buddhism and Hinduism are joined at the waist and then split off into different denominations as well.

 

[Gramh]

There is no such thing as secular morality. It’s an oxymoron. The only people who follow material atheism to its logical conclusion are Satanists/LHP occultists, fascists, and communists. Even your apologists occasionally admit this.

Well humans predate religion by quite a large number of years and we managed to evolve to the state we're in and most religions adopt a similar morality code to each other organically so history would say you're wrong? Plus material atheism leads to Satanic/Pagan religions? What the actual fuck XD

 

[Gramh]

Do you think muslims don't have a divide? The Sunni and Shia have been at each other's necks for centuries. Trump's Chosen People have numerious denominations as well. The Orthodox Trump's Chosen belefs function differently from other factions. So that's the big 3 religions who all have entirely different denominations within each other and Buddhism and Hinduism are joined at the waist and then split off into different denominations as well.

They don't have the dearth of denominations that Christianity has. Even Catholicism is more complex than any other religious system, not even getting into Protestants.

 

[Ow The Edge]

Because as I explained to you already, the government is supposed to be religiously neutral, and trying to rules lawyer around that is dumb.

According to whom? There were several states with established churches of their own when America was founded and the feds didn't care. "But I feel that way" isn't a valid argument.

 

[Marissa Moira]

They don't have the dearth of denominations that Christianity has. Even Catholicism is more complex than any other religious system, not even getting into Protestants.

You're ignorant of the other religions then. Everyone is about on par with the denominations.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

This entire thread is atheists crying.

Let's be fair; we're having a good old slapfight between the two camps here. The atheists are being their usual selves and the faithful are enjoying the rare opportunity to bait an atheist outside of their natural habitat (ie. subreddits and Twitter).

This is the most lively I've seen a thread since CDMP was around and I'm hoping @Gramh becomes the new heir apparent to the vacant throne.

 

[sadstuck]

Internet arguments about atheism are still a thousand times more tolerable than internet arguments about troonism.

 

[Gramh]

You're ignorant of the other religions then. Everyone is about on par with the denominations.

There are like, 2-3 established Judaic orders, Buddhism is separated into 2 major classifications based on belief in mysticism and reincarnation or not, Hindu has a general guiding principal so not a lot of denominations there. Muslims have 2. Christians are divided into 2 major groups, Catholic and Protestant. In Protestant you have Methodist, Mennonite, Amish, Baptist, Non-denominational, I want to say Orthodox and that's off the top of my head, and I'm not sure but Mormons fall into this category even though they are a little more removed. Catholic you have Roman and Irish pretty sure there is another.

 

[Marissa Moira]

There are like, 2-3 established Judaic orders, Buddhism is separated into 2 major classifications based on belief in mysticism and reincarnation or not, Hindu has a general guiding principal so not a lot of denominations there. Muslims have 2. Christians are divided into 2 major groups, Catholic and Protestant. In Protestant you have Methodist, Mennonite, Amish, Baptist, Non-denominational, I want to say Orthodox and that's off the top of my head, and I'm not sure but Mormons fall into this category even though they are a little more removed. Catholic you have Roman and Irish pretty sure there is another.

Muslims certainly don't have 2, african and asian sects have entirely different customs and interpetations of the texts that are not present or widely held beliefs in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Africans Jews also don't act like western jews.

Methodists are also not protestants.

 

[Gramh]

This is the most lively I've seen a thread since CDMP was around and I'm hoping @Gramh becomes the new heir apparent to the vacant throne.

I'm just here till I get tired or I hit -300 rep from the people who care about that sort of thing apparently.

 

[Zarael]

Religiously neutral and state endorsed atheism are two different things. Moreover, the treaty of Tripoli goes into some detail about what the intent of the first amendment was, "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.".

Treaty of Tripoli was to assuage the Muslims that the US wasn't a Christian state like the European powers. It was controversial at the time and was removed in a later revision which doesn't bode well if that's what you're pinning your argument on.

If you actually read the speeches of the early US Presidents you find a ton of stuff that today would have atheists frothing at the mouth. For example John Quincy Adams:

Thirdly, the Declaration of Independence announced the One People, assuming their station among the powers of the earth, as a civilized, religious, and Christian people,—acknowledging themselves bound by the obligations, and claiming the rights to which they were entitled by the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.

They had formed a subordinate portion of an European Christian nation, in the condition of Colonies. The laws of social intercourse between sovereign communities constitute the laws of nations, all derived from three sources:—the laws of nature, or in other words the dictates of justice; usages, sanctioned by custom; and treaties, or national covenants. Superadded to these the Christian nations, between themselves, admit, with various latitudes of interpretation, and little consistency of practice, the laws of humanity and mutual benevolence taught in the gospel of Christ. The European Colonies in America had all been settled by Christian nations; and the first of them, settled before the reformation of Luther, had sought their justification for taking possession of lands inhabited by men of another race, in a grant of authority from the successor of Saint Peter at Rome, for converting the natives of the country to the Christian code of religion and morals. After the reformation, the kings of England, substituting themselves in the place of the Roman Pontiff, as heads of the Church, granted charters for the same benevolent purposes; and as these colonial establishments successively arose, worldly purposes, the spirit of adventure, and religious persecution took their place, together with the conversion of the heathen, among the motives for the European establishments in this Western Hemisphere. Hence had arisen among the colonizing nations, a customary law, under which the commerce of all colonial settlements was confined exclusively to the metropolis or mother country. The Declaration of Independence cast off all the shackles of this dependency. The United States of America were no longer Colonies. They were an independent Nation of Christians, recognizing the general principles of the European law of nations.

Is that to your eyes violating the Establishment Clause? A US President outright stating that the USA is a nation of Christians? Because that isn't a gross violation of what you consider the separation of Church and State, it was very much the norm for the majority of US history. The establishment clause isn't as broad as you think. It means that the President can't say "Ok the USA is officially Catholic now. Catholicism is the state religion". It doesn't mean the President can't talk about how great Jesus is, or anyone he invites to speak.

 

[Gramh]

Muslims certainly don't have 2, african and asian sects have entirely different customs and interpetations of the texts that are not present or widely held beliefs in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Africans Trump's Chosen People also don't act like western Trump's Chosen People.

Methodists are also not protestants.

Shocker cultures are different based on geographical region even within the same religious sects! Lulz.

Well they are Christian and they don't operate with the traditional Catholic dogmas so yes Protestant.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Well humans predate religion

Find me an extant, isolated tribe anywhere on the globe who doesn't subscribe to some belief in the supernatural and I'll eat my fucking hat. The idea that humanity and knowledge of the divine are divisible is ridiculous on its face: Gobekle Tepe is the oldest known prehistoric site and it was devoted to a religion, pre-agricultural revolution.

The history of atheism is barely a paragraph against the history of religion. Even when I was a wee, benighted atheist I knew that humanity is wired for religiosity. You may quibble about the validity of that imperative but to deny it is laughable.

 

[Gramh]

Find me an extant, isolated tribe anywhere on the globe who doesn't subscribe to some belief in the supernatural and I'll eat my fucking hat. The idea that humanity and knowledge of the divine are divisible is ridiculous on its face: Gobekle Tepe is the oldest known prehistoric site and it was devoted to a religion, pre-agricultural revolution.

The history of atheism is barely a paragraph against the history of religion. Even when I was a wee, benighted atheist I knew that humanity is wired for religiosity. You may quibble about the validity of that imperative but to deny it is laughable.

Believing in supernatural forces =/= morality code.

 

[AprilRains]

Methodists are also not protestants.

I hate to cite Wikipedia, but they really are.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I hate to cite Wikipedia, but they really are.

They allow their pastors to be dual faith(i.e. Muslim and Christian) and other weird shit, that wouldn't fly.

 

[Gramh]

Woot hit -301 thanks folks. Sorry to cut things short but you've outlived your entertainment value. Git gud.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Shocker cultures are different based on geographical region even within the same religious sects! Lulz.

So if you understand this why don't you understand this is why Christianity is the way it is.

Like Outside of Mormonism, all the different sects popped up around the different parts of Europe and Asia.

 

[AprilRains]

They allow their pastors to be dual faith(i.e. Muslim and Christian) and other weird shit, that wouldn't fly.

What Protestant doctrine forbids it? I thought Protestantism was a sort of diagnosis of exclusion - if you're Christian but not Catholic, you're Protestant.

 

[Marissa Moira]

What Protestant doctrine forbids it? I thought Protestantism was a sort of diagnosis of exclusion - if you're Christian but not Catholic, you're Protestant.

Well for one thing Islam doesn't allow The New Testament which is what most protestant sects favor.