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The Iowa Democratic Party (IDP) still has not reported official vote totals in the critical Iowa caucuses as of early Tuesday morning, in a largely unexplained and unprecedented delay that has raised questions about the legitimacy of the contest -- and campaign officials are livid, Fox News has learned.

The Trump campaign, meanwhile, openly suggested that the delay meant that the caucuses were being "rigged," and that the embarrassing night proved that the Democratic Party can't be trusted to run Americans' health care and implement sweeping new government programs. Even if a winner is ultimately announced, the chaos and confusion has seemingly erased any hope for the major momentum boost that would normally result.

"We found inconsistencies in the reporting of three sets of results," the IDP said in a statement at 11:30 p.m. ET. "In addition to the tech systems being used to tabulate results, we are also using photos of results and a paper trail to validate that all results match and ensure that we have confidence and accuracy in the numbers we report. This is simply a reporting issue. The app did not go down and this is not a hack or an intrusion. The underlying data and paper trail is sound and will simply take time to further report the results."

Fox News is told that during a call with the campaigns, an IDP representative said the party would be "getting photos of the paper results sent over," but didn't answer any questions and then hung up on all the campaigns, even as frustrated staffers pushed for answers. A campaign staffer told Fox News the brief call was "crazy." A second campaign official told Fox News, “Yes, they did hang up.”

The Biden campaign then wrote to the IDP, complaining about the "considerable flaws" in the caucus reporting process.

"The app that was intended to relay Caucus results to the Party failed; the Party’s back-up telephonic reporting system likewise has failed," the campaign wrote in a letter. "Now, we understand that Caucus Chairs are attempting to — and, in many cases, failing to — report results telephonically to the Party. These acute failures are occurring statewide. We appreciate that you plan to brief the campaigns momentarily on these issues, and we plan to participate. However, we believe that the campaigns deserve full explanations and relevant information regarding the methods of quality control you are employing, and an opportunity to respond, before any official results are released."

About an hour earlier, IDP spokesperson Mandy McClure said in a statement, "The integrity of the results is paramount. We have experienced a delay in the results due to quality checks and the fact that the IDP is reporting out three data sets for the first time. What we know right now is that around 25% of precincts have reported, and early data indicates turnout is on pace for 2016."

Turnout in the 2016 Democratic caucuses in Iowa was 171,109. That was far below the nearly 240,000 that took part in the 2008 Democratic caucuses, when then-Sen. Barack Obama won the contest.

"With every passing minute that there is a delay, we worry that the process will lose credibility," a top Elizabeth Warren aide told CNN.

In a surreal moment shortly before Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar took the stage to thank her supporters -- even as no voting results were available -- a precinct chief was being interviewed on CNN while he was on hold for more than an hour with the IDP to report results. The IDP then hung up on the precinct chief live on-air after he was too slow to respond once they took him off hold.

At least four precincts had to resolve ties in their vote results by flipping a coin during the evening, Fox News has learned.

Speaking at 11:30 p.m. ET, former Vice President Joe Biden said he felt good about the caucus, then remarked, "It's on to New Hampshire! ... We're in this for the long haul."

Taking the microphone ten minutes later, Sanders said that when the results were in, he had a "good feeling we're going to be doing very very well here in Iowa."

For the first time ever, the IDP has previously said it will report three sets of results at the end of the state’s first-in-the-nation caucuses: a tally of caucus-goers’ initial candidate preference; vote totals from the “final alignment” after supporters of lower-ranking candidates were able to make a second choice, and the total number of State Delegate Equivalents each candidate receives. There is no guarantee that all three will show the same winner.

Earlier in the evening, an IDP official told Fox News the party was doing “quality control checks, making sure the numbers are accurate,” adding that “people are still caucusing; we are working to report results soon.”
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tl;dr: Results from the Democratic Iowa Caucus are late coming in, DNC is blaming an app and claiming they are currently doing "quality control."
 
In light of these recent events, I wanna ask people here something: if the Democratic party does collapse after this nonsense, what do you think will rise in its place? Will it go more moderate, or will it swing full left?
I think it’ll take time, and a good amount of it would be spent with the various factions harping at each other, but I can see a more moderate Democrat party rising up out of the ashes, the extremists won’t go away, but they will be silenced for a good few decades at least.

I have a strange notion of the Libertarian party actually rising up somewhat (humor me here), there reaction would be “what? How did that happen?” But it could happen. Who is the official number 3 political party in the US anyway?
 
I think what is most telling about this mess is how utterly gullible and exceptional Bernie voters, and Bernie himself, are. The man got bent over the barrel and railed by the DNC in 2016 and now they are SHOCKED and LIVID that the process is happening all over again.

What the fuck did you expect to happen? In 2024 they'll be wheeling him out in his Little Rascal scooter while crying that THIS TIME they'll totally get justice. These morons don't have the very basic abilities to learn from experience. If a dog is repeatedly hurt when it goes into another person's lawn, it will learn from that and stop going.

If a socialist gets railroaded by corrupt dems in their own party or spend a trillion in aid to the poor, and the results turn out negatively, they'll just spend more of our money to do it again.
 
In light of these recent events, I wanna ask people here something: if the Democratic party does collapse after this nonsense, what do you think will rise in its place? Will it go more moderate, or will it swing full left?
It will split most likely. If Bernie loses he's too old to run again, so there will probably be a progressive 3rd party. The grassroots coalition he's created is too big to just dissolve, afaik he's gotten the biggest number of individual donators in election history. Libdems will continue being useless libdems.
 
In light of these recent events, I wanna ask people here something: if the Democratic party does collapse after this nonsense, what do you think will rise in its place? Will it go more moderate, or will it swing full left?

Its too big to fail, and the two primary factions, the Neo-Liberals and the Progressives are too ideologically opposed to be able to function if they had to run against each other in general elections. A split party would insure Republican super majorities. Fear of that is the only thing that unifies the Democrats at this point. They are going to try and keep this goat rodeo going. They have no choice.
 
Who's the DSA's (Democrat sheepdogs of America) preferred candidate this time? Boynie?

Also, great job with the incessant Trump sperging you colossal faggots.
 
I think what is most telling about this mess is how utterly gullible and exceptional Bernie voters, and Bernie himself, are. The man got bent over the barrel and railed by the DNC in 2016 and now they are SHOCKED and LIVID that the process is happening all over again.

What the fuck did you expect to happen? In 2024 they'll be wheeling him out in his Little Rascal scooter while crying that THIS TIME they'll totally get justice. These morons don't have the very basic abilities to learn from experience. If a dog is repeatedly hurt when it goes into another person's lawn, it will learn from that and stop going.

If a socialist gets railroaded by corrupt dems in their own party or spend a trillion in aid to the poor, and the results turn out negatively, they'll just spend more of our money to do it again.
Nigga was clearly prepared for this situation and was expecting some fuckery, or else he wouldn’t have sent his own people to investigate.
 
I think what is most telling about this mess is how utterly gullible and exceptional Bernie voters, and Bernie himself, are. The man got bent over the barrel and railed by the DNC in 2016 and now they are SHOCKED and LIVID that the process is happening all over again.

What the fuck did you expect to happen? In 2024 they'll be wheeling him out in his Little Rascal scooter while crying that THIS TIME they'll totally get justice. These morons don't have the very basic abilities to learn from experience. If a dog is repeatedly hurt when it goes into another person's lawn, it will learn from that and stop going.

If a socialist gets railroaded by corrupt dems in their own party or spend a trillion in aid to the poor, and the results turn out negatively, they'll just spend more of our money to do it again.

Literally nobody is shocked though? For fuck's sake Bernie's campaign had enough precognition to use their own app to report the results during the caucuses. Trust me, everyone saw this coming...really I think people are more surprised at how obvious and sloppy the fix is.

This may seem like a replay of 2016, but the difference this time is that the entire world is watching. There is no Hillary to swoop in and save the DNC. There's no plausible deniability. Even the LA Times is reporting on how shady shit is.


Trust me, they're trying reeeeal hard to repeat 2016. But the political landscape of 2016 is not the same as now. And you can only fool people for so long before the torches start coming out.
 
In light of these recent events, I wanna ask people here something: if the Democratic party does collapse after this nonsense, what do you think will rise in its place? Will it go more moderate, or will it swing full left?

Unless they go moderate everything is fucked. Even if the far left wins they are always incapable of actually governing. As in they never know how. History has proven this time and time again.

From experience, I'd say they are going to go further left. They will take multiple Elections to realise their mistake.

There is a reason Labour in the UK have lost for the last decade and had a catastrophic defeat recently. And the party shows no signs of accepting why?
 
Anyone else actually glad this happened? This is a. inadvertent acceleration and b. way more entertaining and worth it in the long run.
I mean it for sure would of been a more boring shambling event then it is right now
In light of these recent events, I wanna ask people here something: if the Democratic party does collapse after this nonsense, what do you think will rise in its place? Will it go more moderate, or will it swing full left?
Probably some split like what happened with Taft and Roosevelt, basicly the party's power will be made into 2 smaller parties for an election cycle or two until they both find compromise and get over each other like a rocky relationship's road bump
 
Oh boy, can't wait for them to handle universal healthcare and wellness programs after they've established they can't program a functional counting app

If you want to see how the government will handle universal anything, just look at the way Native American tribes have their shit ran.
 
Probably some split like what happened with Taft and Roosevelt, basicly the party's power will be made into 2 smaller parties for an election cycle or two until they both find compromise and get over each other like a rocky relationship's road bump

There is no way they can viably split. There is a major political realignment going on in America atm. Under Trump, the Republican Party has moved to embrace key tentpole progressive economic policies designed to help the middle and working class, such as increasing the child tax credit. They have also moved aggressively to target regulations that hurt small businesses. In the past the Republicans have SAID they wanted to do that, but they never did because most of those regulations were designed to make it harder for smaller companies to challenge established big corporations.

Which means all the Democrats have left are people who vote for radical SOCIAL changes, and globalist international corporations and their hangers on. I don't know how Trump did it, but he managed to pry the Republicans out of the mud they had been stuck in for the last 40 years. They are almost unrecognizable at this point, and the only rejoinder the Democrats have are "they are racist". But that charge comes from the Neo-Liberal faction of the Dems, who are super mad its harder for them to shop around other countries tax havens and import cheap labor. The Social revolution types eat that shit up and repeat it. But then take it even further then the Neo-Libs want. No borders, no wall, no USA at all. Yikes.

No, they are stuck up shit creek together. They hate each others guts, but the Neo-Liberals need the progressives to be their foot soldiers, and the progressives need the Neo Liberals money and media access. If they split the Neo-Liberals won't be able to have any ground game in the city neighborhoods they rely on, and the progressives won't be able to pay for their revolution because they are increasingly made up of broke commies with degrees in critical gender theory.
 
There is a reason Labour in the UK have lost for the last decade and had a catastrophic defeat recently. And the party shows no signs of accepting why?
Yes, because their masters told them to go anti-Brexit.
If you want to see how the government will handle universal anything, just look at the way Native American tribes have their shit ran.
Is it any worse than any other government facility that cares for homeless alcoholics, and what is the cause of any such issues?
Wait, are you saying Alan Dershowitz isn't a child rapist? lol
 
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