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christ do these people have any idea what laser is? what the fuck how is that not the first thing you do
Every time my morbid curiosity makes me look at a crotch hole. I'm disgusted how the supposed "women" still have gross thick man hair on their legs. Sure you're probably bedbound after being mutilated like that but you can totally shave in a bed. The worst ones are where it's fully healed and you can't help but wonder if they're about to become one of the 41% and subconsciously trying to look more masculine (because in their heads they aren't) by not shaving. Or just, y'know, autistic lack of hygiene.
 
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Suicidal 17 year old boy took puberty blockers at the age of 12, had srs at 17 and now regrets it. He is jealous of his brother who went through puberty. Also srs gave him dysphoria. He can't shower with lights on.

Fucking sad.

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Suicidal 17 year old boy took puberty blockers at the age of 12, had srs at 17 and now regrets it. He is jealous of his brother who went through puberty. Also srs gave him dysphoria. He can't shower with lights on.

Fucking sad.

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I hope he actually goes through with a lawsuit, even though I doubt he'd win.
 
From r/detrans

Suicidal 17 year old boy took puberty blockers at the age of 12, had srs at 17 and now regrets it. He is jealous of his brother who went through puberty. Also srs gave him dysphoria. He can't shower with lights on.

Fucking sad.

Of all of the shit posted in this thread, this honestly just makes me sad.

He is 17, and in all honesty has completely fucked his life over because society has decided to collectively have a stroke right now and deem 12 year olds intellectually capable of making life-altering medical decisions based on speculative horseshit.

Assuming the results of his SRS are anywhere near as bad as the stuff we've seen on this thread, the sad truth is that there's no going back for this kid. He can get off the estrogen, sure, but the damage to his genitals is done, and god knows what he's done to his kidneys, liver... meanwhile the trans train chugs steadily onwards, calling impressionable children everywhere to join this poor, miserable sod like some kind of more nihilistic Pied Piper. It's quite alarming to think about how many equally dumb kids are out there right now, scouring tumblr hugboxes to bolster them before doing exactly the same thing, only to likely have the same results.

His parents are far from blameless, mind. Did they seriously have no hesitations about this?
 
He is 17, and in all honesty has completely fucked his life over because society has decided to collectively have a stroke right now and deem 12 year olds intellectually capable of making life-altering medical decisions based on speculative horseshit.

Yep. Most famous example is Jazz Jennings who's mental health has been declining since last fall according to a friend of the family. That's why he can't go to Harvard.

So he has been on a downward spiral since last fall...and his srs was in Summer 2018...what a coincidence...NOT! The srs might have been his death sentence. It's incredible sad but I see NO way he is going to get better in such a toxic environment.

Like Jazz, the young man on r/detrans is one of THOUSANDS.

The trans path leads to pain, genital butchering & in the worst case suicide. It's absolutely horrifying that children are getting dragged into this hell.
 
You know, sometimes I used to watch documentaries about shit like lobotomies or witch burning and think to myself, "How were people this fucking stupid? How do you get that swept up in something so obviously fallacious out of what ultimately amounts to peer pressure, group hysteria?"

Then I listened to some of my ostensibly intelligent liberal friends attempt to explain away the obvious questions I had about transitioning and realised that there is no "were", or "used to be". We are still that fucking gullible. A sizeable proportion of us will go along with what is popularly accepted among our social group with very little questions at all.
 
From r/detrans

Suicidal 17 year old boy took puberty blockers at the age of 12, had srs at 17 and now regrets it. He is jealous of his brother who went through puberty. Also srs gave him dysphoria. He can't shower with lights on.

Fucking sad.

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That's so fucking sad. Is it really too late for him to grow if he starts taking T and ditches the estrogen? I ask because I remember back in high school, there were lots of guys who were short and had squeaky voices all the way up until the last part of their senior year. You'd think they were just destined to be short forever, but out of nowhere they shot up like a weed. I remember a good friend of mine being shorter than me until around 17, then he grew and didn't stop until he was closer to 20 or so.

I know he took puberty blockers, but unlike Jazz Jennings, he didn't start it until he was 12, so maybe his body isn't completely fucked? Anyone well versed in this area have an answer?
 
That's so fucking sad. Is it really too late for him to grow if he starts taking T and ditches the estrogen? I ask because I remember back in high school, there were lots of guys who were short and had squeaky voices all the way up until the last part of their senior year. You'd think they were just destined to be short forever, but out of nowhere they shot up like a weed. I remember a good friend of mine being shorter than me until around 17, then he grew and didn't stop until he was closer to 20 or so.

I know he took puberty blockers, but unlike Jazz Jennings, he didn't start it until he was 12, so maybe his body isn't completely fucked? Anyone well versed in this area have an answer?

I don't know about the hormones, but I doubt it. And if he had genital surgery, there's no telling what'll happen if he goes through puberty (which giving him hormones would mimic). A lot happens with the tissue down there between 12 and 17, ranging from growth and the appereance of pubic hair to sperm production beginning. With his tissue essentially scrambled by SRS, there's no telling what'll grow and where. I'm not a doctor, but causing highly damaged tissue (both physically and hormonally damaged) to undergo massive growth seems like a major cancer risk. I don't know if there is anything that could be done.
 
That's so fucking sad. Is it really too late for him to grow if he starts taking T and ditches the estrogen? I ask because I remember back in high school, there were lots of guys who were short and had squeaky voices all the way up until the last part of their senior year. You'd think they were just destined to be short forever, but out of nowhere they shot up like a weed. I remember a good friend of mine being shorter than me until around 17, then he grew and didn't stop until he was closer to 20 or so.

I know he took puberty blockers, but unlike Jazz Jennings, he didn't start it until he was 12, so maybe his body isn't completely fucked? Anyone well versed in this area have an answer?

According to him, his growth plates have closed and experienced epiphyseal fusion. He probably got that information from a doctor, so it means growth is over. I know that puberty blockers have been touted by trans activists as "reversible" but medical authorities at gender clinics have admitted that this claim has no basis in research and they have no idea the extent of reversibility because it hasn't been studied, and some things are looking quite clearly irreversible, particularly bone density, strength, and growth.

Those guys in high school had squeaky voices and short stature because they went through puberty late. Test & Est trigger both the growth spurt and the closure. That's why their voices deepened when they shot up, and why this guy's growth is done – he already got his hormone dose. Prescribing growth hormone only works on kids, whereas in adults with growth plates closed it is either useless or causes disorders.

No one is really well-versed in this area because at this point, it's complete medical experimentation on children.
 
His parents are far from blameless, mind. Did they seriously have no hesitations about this?

parents who cheer this on are abusing their children.
But parents who object can be forced to allow ‘affirmative’ treatment. This is a case from Canada (where else...) http://archive.is/cKuEo. So parents, who have a responsibility to protect their children, can have parental rights removed and their children subjected to this. Th


Anyone well versed in this area have an answer?

We don’t know, is the short answer.
the longer answer is we don’t know because up to now, delayed puberty has been confined to restricted cases where kids have genetic disorders, or serious malnutrition etc. There are always rare cases of kids not entering puberty until late teens or even twenties, but we have no idea at all when the window truly closes, or what happens when you stop normal hormone production and pump a kid full of cross sex hormones. It’s Wild West stuff.
What we do know is that puberty is vital for the maturation of body and mind. Half your bone density is laid down in puberty. Stopping puberty stunts IQ. Puberty blockers affect multiple body systems - endocrine, bone, brain, heart. We have no idea of the long term effects because nobody is monitoring these kids long term.

so we have;

- a state created mechanism to remove your children from you for wrongthink
- state sanctioned child abuse
- surgical and medical creation of a class of young adults with stunted childlike bodies but over the age of consent, with lowered IQ.

and people are cheering it on. Honk fucking honk.

I hope these kids sue. I hope they create class action suits that bankrupt big players. That is the only thing that will stop this. It’s horrific, and the medics involved should be hanging their heads in shame.
 
That's so fucking sad. Is it really too late for him to grow if he starts taking T and ditches the estrogen? I ask because I remember back in high school, there were lots of guys who were short and had squeaky voices all the way up until the last part of their senior year. You'd think they were just destined to be short forever, but out of nowhere they shot up like a weed. I remember a good friend of mine being shorter than me until around 17, then he grew and didn't stop until he was closer to 20 or so.

I know he took puberty blockers, but unlike Jazz Jennings, he didn't start it until he was 12, so maybe his body isn't completely fucked? Anyone well versed in this area have an answer?
The kid says growth plates are fused so no more growth.
 
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That's the thing, too. I'm not here to put on a tinfoil hat, because there's no evidence of a conspiracy. There most likely isn't one, but there's a lot of backscratching going on with this sort of thing.

The doctors who perform this whole thing get tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, will refer their patients to psychologists or psychiatrists who get to make bank off of an easy diagnosis (with the patient practically already sure of their condition), and whatever supplier of the hormones they'll wind up taking gets a regular, returning customer. There's multiple posts where people say that their doctor either referred them to a specific psychologist or to another doctor who will recommend the same psychologist, with the psychologists being known to just hand-wave the special approval like a parent signing off their child's field trip waver.

I don't believe it's intentional, there's no evidence to suggest so anyways, but it's unquestionably happening.
 
calling impressionable children everywhere to join this poor, miserable sod like some kind of more nihilistic Pied Piper.
Want to hear something creepy? I heard a theory once that the Pied Piper story is based on a real incident where the people of Hamelin sold off their goddamn children: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_Piper_of_Hamelin#Emigration_theory
So your metaphor may be more apt than intended.

Is it really too late for him to grow if he starts taking T and ditches the estrogen?
Everyone else mentioned the growth plates, which means that the kid is not going to be able to grow taller naturally.
That said, though, there is one option:
 
Troon timeline roundup:

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"Wow you really feminized between -3 And -2 months."


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"Feeling like finding a rock to hide under for the rest of my life. Ugh." (OP)


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"Never give up! I still get misgendered at times, but I love being a cutie 🥰 I no longer hate my reflection and love it more by the month. 5 months pre hrt vs 10 months on HRT. 💜 No laser yet either but hopefully I can get it next year." (OP)


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"As long as you feel comfortable in your own skin, it's a long struggle but you're being brave just by authentically being yourself! Looking good man!"


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"Congrats on your first year!! Many more to come, and looking good, girl!!"
 

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"Never give up! I still get misgendered at times, but I love being a cutie 🥰 I no longer hate my reflection and love it more by the month. 5 months pre hrt vs 10 months on HRT. 💜 No laser yet either but hopefully I can get it next year." (OP)
Troon or not troon, I wouldn't want to meet this lad in a dark alley. He has the eyes of a serial killer
 
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