Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

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I'm glad we're dealing with actual evidence fucking finally. I don't understand Edwin's "we do not seek to embarrass" while simultaneously encouraging BeanfromPA and Tim Lim to seek possible legal action. One of those is more serious than the other.

Ultimately NAGL for Warcampaign. I'll have to re-watch to get full thoughts but on first thoughts is I didn't know Indiecron was a "business." I'm happy for PixelTraitor. I suspected he wanted to monetize the hundreds/thousands of hours he put into it when he brought in Henderson and Brett R. Smith. We've seen Henderson's ability to handle business is...questionable. Still WC's attempts to harm Indiecron, if the statements are true, would be bad. But Edwin didn't provide the evidence for that. The closest was TUG saying that WC should get one of their people on-board.

The tribunals are just a shouting match isn't surprising.

It's a big nothing burger blown up by Edwin's pearl clutching. 'You hurt my fee-fees and now I'm going to put on a full opera, fat fucking lady and all, and play the victim card as a means to passive agressively assert my authority to force you to do what I want'. It's the bitch play.
Of course he has late Night Comics in his ear, so no wonder he looks like a desperate character in a Hitchcock thriller who's slowly loosing his mind these days.
Fucking WC were larping as the secret agents of comicsgate keeping it safe from all foes. Naturally autists never know where the line is. That's about fucking it.
The problem is all the sad fucks that assumed that WC had any authority at all. I imagine Brad Ashworth is the biggest pussy in the world after being 'summoned before WC' ....and actually turning up, as opposed to doing what any normalfag would and laughing in their faces and telling them to fuck off.
Use the block button like an adult and move on with your lives FFS. This tedious soap opera featuring as cast of literal 'who the fuck cares?''' needs to move off to it's own trash fire thread.

On the more amusing side of the whole drama thing.....
Anybody notice EVS trolling the Cherries on Mike's Friday night auction? He sold the Trixi Cain art that he refused to sell to Nassar for $230. Meow.
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It's a big nothing burger blown up by Edwin's pearl clutching. 'You hurt my fee-fees and now I'm going to put on a full opera, fat fucking lady and all, and play the victim card as a means to passive agressively assert my authority to force you to do what I want'. It's the bitch play.
Of course he has late Night Comics in his ear, so no wonder he looks like a desperate character in a Hitchcock thriller who's slowly loosing his mind these days.
Fucking WC were larping as the secret agents of comicsgate keeping it safe from all foes. Naturally autists never know where the line is. That's about fucking it.
The problem is all the sad fucks that assumed that WC had any authority at all. I imagine Brad Ashworth is the biggest pussy in the world after being 'summoned before WC' ....and actually turning up, as opposed to doing what any normalfag would and laughing in their faces and telling them to fuck off.
Use the block button like an adult and move on with your lives FFS. This tedious soap opera featuring as cast of literal 'who the fuck cares?''' needs to move off to it's own trash fire thread.

On the more amusing side of the whole drama thing.....
Anybody notice EVS trolling the Cherries on Mike's Friday night auction? He sold the Trixi Cain art that he refused to sell to Nassar for $230. Meow.
Timestamped here:
Yeah, that's my take as well. Edwin's fee fees being hurt was on full display. And when Edwin's showcased that Bean is quote tweeting accounts she blocked means she's not a victim. She's a person who looks through twitter looking for reasons to be offended. Textbook church-lady behavior.

Talking to Late Night Sperg hurts Edwin's credibility a lot. I was tempted to dismiss the entire thing when I saw LNC gloating about being the primary contact for Edwin. I still wanna re-watch the entire 50 minutes knowing anything not directly proven is probably a lie or exaggeration conjured up by LNC's fevered dreams. And yes, Brad Ashworth is a giant fucking pussy but he's certainly not the only one. It's remarkable the number of people trying to gain clout by being victims. It's sad when women do it. It's fucking pathetic when men do it. You're not a victim if the circumstances are entirely avoidable and you voluntarily "injure" yourself.

That reminds me of PixelTraitor. Doug TenNappel promised to burn Indiecron to the ground and utterly destroy it. Edwin and the other pearl clutchers have no problems with an industry veteran with connections to videogames, art, and comics including the big two threatening Pixel's business? But it's Warcampaign actions that are offensive and must receive condemnation? Something doesn't pass the smell test.

It makes everyone named look bad upon thinking about it. Edwin, BeanfromPA, Ashworth, Pixeltraitor, Warcampaign; the whole lot. A re-watch is definitely in order.
 
Yeah, that's my take as well. Edwin's fee fees being hurt was on full display. And when Edwin's showcased that Bean is quote tweeting accounts she blocked means she's not a victim. She's a person who looks through twitter looking for reasons to be offended. Textbook church-lady behavior.

There's a whole lot of sad clout chasers out there that twitter has trained to achieve status through victimhood. Twitter was a mistake, I'm glad Jack Dorsey runs it because he's doing a fine job in running it into the ground.

Talking to Late Night Sperg hurts Edwin's credibility a lot. I was tempted to dismiss the entire thing when I saw LNC gloating about being the primary contact for Edwin. I still wanna re-watch the entire 50 minutes knowing anything not directly proven is probably a lie or exaggeration conjured up by LNC's fevered dreams. And yes, Brad Ashworth is a giant fucking pussy but he's certainly not the only one. It's remarkable the number of people trying to gain clout by being victims. It's sad when women do it. It's fucking pathetic when men do it. You're not a victim if the circumstances are entirely avoidable and you voluntarily "injure" yourself.

Edwin, your source regularly posts here saying that Ethan Van Sciver raped Betty Breitwiser.
That's your source. Think about that and the people you associate with. You have Grima Wormtounge in your ear old man, several of them in fact.

That reminds me of PixelTraitor. Doug TenNappel promised to burn Indiecron to the ground and utterly destroy it. Edwin and the other pearl clutchers have no problems with an industry veteran with connections to videogames, art, and comics including the big two threatening Pixel's business? But it's Warcampaign actions that are offensive and must receive condemnation? Something doesn't pass the smell test.

It makes everyone named look bad upon thinking about it. Edwin, BeanfromPA, Ashworth, Pixeltraitor, Warcampaign; the whole lot. A re-watch is definitely in order.

It's a sperg dumpster-fire. You'd see more maturity from a gaggle of teenage girls.
 
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@Comicsgeist @lolz I would really appreciate it if you would not talk about me like that. You were not there and do not know all the details of the conversations I had. If you want I did give my side of the situation on my youtube channel. Your welcome to look it up. You can even subscribe. Good luck and God Bless.
 
You guys and your crazy conspiracies. The truth can be right in front of you, and you make up a fantasy, call people monsters, and paint them as such. Edwin isn't corrupt, or cashgrabbing. There isn't any one person that changed his POV, it was many people coming forward, and people, like myself, confirming the truth. Maybe his view on this situation changed based on evidence? Is it wrong to change your opinion based on facts as you get them? I know he hasn't changed. He doesn't deserve this much flack, ESPECIALLY from people not even directly involved or in the "know". I can tell most people in here have NO IDEA what's actually happening, or the history! Oh well, I got popcorn to make.
byeeeeeeee


Carry on Kiwi farmers! FEED ME DOWNVOTES!
 
Man do I miss the days of watching Renfamous' disastrous YT interview through EVS' livestream. It seems like half of the people on that night have gotten either greedy, stupid or overly sensitive.
That was such a fun night, it's the greatest hit on my YT channel! LOL Kevin Logan even came in to show me love. <3. Well, talking crap IS his way of showing love.
 
Did this thread just turn into "Shill-your-youtube-channel Central" or what? Who the hell are you people? Where did all these gay ops come from?
 
Yeah, that's my take as well. Edwin's fee fees being hurt was on full display. And when Edwin's showcased that Bean is quote tweeting accounts she blocked means she's not a victim. She's a person who looks through twitter looking for reasons to be offended. Textbook church-lady behavior.

Talking to Late Night Sperg hurts Edwin's credibility a lot. I was tempted to dismiss the entire thing when I saw LNC gloating about being the primary contact for Edwin. I still wanna re-watch the entire 50 minutes knowing anything not directly proven is probably a lie or exaggeration conjured up by LNC's fevered dreams. And yes, Brad Ashworth is a giant fucking pussy but he's certainly not the only one. It's remarkable the number of people trying to gain clout by being victims. It's sad when women do it. It's fucking pathetic when men do it. You're not a victim if the circumstances are entirely avoidable and you voluntarily "injure" yourself.

That reminds me of PixelTraitor. Doug TenNappel promised to burn Indiecron to the ground and utterly destroy it. Edwin and the other pearl clutchers have no problems with an industry veteran with connections to videogames, art, and comics including the big two threatening Pixel's business? But it's Warcampaign actions that are offensive and must receive condemnation? Something doesn't pass the smell test.

It makes everyone named look bad upon thinking about it. Edwin, BeanfromPA, Ashworth, Pixeltraitor, Warcampaign; the whole lot. A re-watch is definitely in order.
There's a whole lot of sad clout chasers out there that twitter has trained to achieve status through victimhood. Twitter was a mistake, I'm glad Jack Dorsey runs it because he's doing a fine job in running it into the ground.



Edwin, your source regularly posts here saying that Ethan Van Sciver raped Betty Breitwiser.
That's your source. Think about that and the people you associate with. You have Grima Wormtounge in your ear old man, several of them in fact.



It's a sperg dumpster-fire. You'd see more maturity from a gaggle of teenage girls.

I think it's less about people's feelings being hurt, then it is trying to build a business and an indie comics scene through social media. If you're trying to build an indie comics scene on social media you want to cultivate a friendly, inviting environment, something that appeals not just to people on the inside, but to people watching from the outside. Retards and gay ops is neither appealing nor inviting. The way some dorks talk in public, "soy this and soy that, SJW sucks!" is appealing to only a handful of mouth breathing troglodytes. It's not professional. It's not the way a hotdog vendor presents himself.
 
Did this thread just turn into "Shill-your-youtube-channel Central" or what? Who the hell are you people? Where did all these gay ops come from?
Greedy tards wanting to suckle the teat of "fuck socjus corporatism" on a trend that's getting eaten alive, crabs trying to drag the lobsters down and boost their fucking product, and weirdos who can't not act like teenage girls and not post on twitter.

Basically z-list whodats and weirdos groping for relevance I guess.
 
I think it's less about people's feelings being hurt, then it is trying to build a business and an indie comics scene through social media. If you're trying to build an indie comics scene on social media you want to cultivate a friendly, inviting environment, something that appeals not just to people on the inside, but to people watching from the outside. exceptional individuals and gay ops is neither appealing nor inviting. The way some dorks talk in public, "soy this and soy that, SJW sucks!" is appealing to only a handful of mouth breathing troglodytes. It's not professional. It's not the way a hotdog vendor presents himself.

Well, SJWs do suck, and there isn't a sustainable indie comics scene outside of ComicsGate in no small part because of them. The mainstream is on life support.

It's also not professional to call the ComicsGate customer base "mouth breathing troglodytes" unless your plan is to join those SJWs.

In which case, good luck. They're all doing great.

The problem is that a few people got the bright idea to create websites that cater to "ComicsGate customers." These people think that crowdfunding campaigns are things that customers SHOP en masse. As if loads of people just want to browse a massive selection of $25 independent fund raising ventures to choose the ones they like best. A shopping mall for IndieGoGo.

That's just not how this works. Successful IGG campaigns are the result of hours and hours of personal interaction with a potential customer base. They require nonstop promotion and marketing, generating enthusiasm and interest, creating a feeling of one-on-one door to door salesmanship.

Rarely, and I mean RARELY, will a placed ad work. EARTHWORM JIM comes close to beating that model, because it's a known property. But most of us have to do footwork.

So these websites aren't a BAD idea, they just aren't really EFFECTIVE ideas. So I suggested this isn't something that should be done.

I didn't even realize that they'd come with an extra problem:

How does one determine who and what deserves placement on your website? Is this "Comicsgate?" What is ComicsGate?

Now you've found yourself in the unpleasant predicament of having to gatekeep.

Edwin Boyette's IndieChron gestured towards this gatekeeping when someone involved with it tried to keep Brad Ashworth's HANDYMAN off the site for associating with an undesirable editor. All Hell broke loose. Doug TenNapel said he would "burn IndieChron to the ground."

Chaos ensued, with War Campaign telling people that IndieChron was associated with doxxers (this "undesirable editor") and the Alt-Right. (Jon Del Arroz and Vox Day.) IndieChron faltered, and decided that gatekeeping was wrong, and would therefore just become a site that chronicles the Indie Comics Scene, which makes it essentially just a relisting of the Comics section of Kickstarter and IndieGoGo. Unless some books from those sites are still being kept off the list, which again, means the site is gatekeeping. So it's either redundant or it's a gatekeeper.

War Campaign decided to just flat out gatekeep: CG Only. They'd make a site determining what was Comicsgate and what wasn't, and then they went about telling creators that association with IndieChron would place them next to the Alt Right and doxxers, intimidating these small press creators.

That's what all of this is about. Fighting over how to do a completely unnecessary website that lists crowdfunding campaigns that may or may not be ComicsGate. This is what drove Edwin Boyette away from ComicsGate, and this is what War Campaign is currently being accused of.

"Tribunals."

Fucking stupid headache all around.
 
It's a big nothing burger blown up by Edwin's pearl clutching. 'You hurt my fee-fees and now I'm going to put on a full opera, fat fucking lady and all, and play the victim card as a means to passive agressively assert my authority to force you to do what I want'. It's the bitch play.
Of course he has late Night Comics in his ear, so no wonder he looks like a desperate character in a Hitchcock thriller who's slowly loosing his mind these days.
Fucking WC were larping as the secret agents of comicsgate keeping it safe from all foes. Naturally autists never know where the line is. That's about fucking it.
The problem is all the sad fucks that assumed that WC had any authority at all. I imagine Brad Ashworth is the biggest pussy in the world after being 'summoned before WC' ....and actually turning up, as opposed to doing what any normalfag would and laughing in their faces and telling them to fuck off.
Use the block button like an adult and move on with your lives FFS. This tedious soap opera featuring as cast of literal 'who the fuck cares?''' needs to move off to it's own trash fire thread.

On the more amusing side of the whole drama thing.....
Anybody notice EVS trolling the Cherries on Mike's Friday night auction? He sold the Trixi Cain art that he refused to sell to Nassar for $230. Meow.
Timestamped here:
This was retarded as fuck. Everyone is now dumber for having read this garbage.
 
To quote Scott Krutz...who are you?
Who cares? He's a nobody with a flare for r.etarded style.

Imagine all this for a website that no one was going to visit anyway.
Imagine that mad cow disease is so wide spread, that lolcows come by themselves to kiwi pastures and we don't even have to wrangle them too much.
A show when cow eats cow, couldn't get better.

@Comicsgeist @lolz I would really appreciate it if you would not talk about me like that. You were not there and do not know all the details of the conversations I had. If you want I did give my side of the situation on my youtube channel. Your welcome to look it up. You can even subscribe. Good luck and God Bless.
Links to archive or it didn't happen. Nobody has time to bother with your subtweeting or vaguebooking and search for nothingburgers on YT.
BTW do you know what forum you're on? You do know what we do here, right? And that you're in no position to expect something without hard proofs? So go and find your receipts and then come back and make fools of those two if they so deserve.
 
Well, SJWs do suck, and there isn't a sustainable indie comics scene outside of ComicsGate in no small part because of them. The mainstream is on life support.

It's also not professional to call the ComicsGate customer base "mouth breathing troglodytes" unless your plan is to join those SJWs.

In which case, good luck. They're all doing great.

The problem is that a few people got the bright idea to create websites that cater to "ComicsGate customers." These people think that crowdfunding campaigns are things that customers SHOP en masse. As if loads of people just want to browse a massive selection of $25 independent fund raising ventures to choose the ones they like best. A shopping mall for IndieGoGo.

That's just not how this works. Successful IGG campaigns are the result of hours and hours of personal interaction with a potential customer base. They require nonstop promotion and marketing, generating enthusiasm and interest, creating a feeling of one-on-one door to door salesmanship.

Rarely, and I mean RARELY, will a placed ad work. EARTHWORM JIM comes close to beating that model, because it's a known property. But most of us have to do footwork.

So these websites aren't a BAD idea, they just aren't really EFFECTIVE ideas. So I suggested this isn't something that should be done.

I didn't even realize that they'd come with an extra problem:

How does one determine who and what deserves placement on your website? Is this "Comicsgate?" What is ComicsGate?

Now you've found yourself in the unpleasant predicament of having to gatekeep.

Edwin Boyette's IndieChron gestured towards this gatekeeping when someone involved with it tried to keep Brad Ashworth's HANDYMAN off the site for associating with an undesirable editor. All Hell broke loose. Doug TenNapel said he would "burn IndieChron to the ground."

Chaos ensued, with War Campaign telling people that IndieChron was associated with doxxers (this "undesirable editor") and the Alt-Right. (Jon Del Arroz and Vox Day.) IndieChron faltered, and decided that gatekeeping was wrong, and would therefore just become a site that chronicles the Indie Comics Scene, which makes it essentially just a relisting of the Comics section of Kickstarter and IndieGoGo. Unless some books from those sites are still being kept off the list, which again, means the site is gatekeeping. So it's either redundant or it's a gatekeeper.

War Campaign decided to just flat out gatekeep: CG Only. They'd make a site determining what was Comicsgate and what wasn't, and then they went about telling creators that association with IndieChron would place them next to the Alt Right and doxxers, intimidating these small press creators.

That's what all of this is about. Fighting over how to do a completely unnecessary website that lists crowdfunding campaigns that may or may not be ComicsGate. This is what drove Edwin Boyette away from ComicsGate, and this is what War Campaign is currently being accused of.

"Tribunals."

Fucking stupid headache all around.
What happened today @FROG? You got steamrolled by the clown pup killstream autist. Why did you make such a big deal he was dropping screens of DM conversation you had with Nerkish? Eh, idk why I tag the pieman, faggot muted me.
 
Who cares? He's a nobody with a flare for r.etarded style.


Imagine that mad cow disease is so wide spread, that lolcows come by themselves to kiwi pastures and we don't even have to wrangle them too much.
A show when cow eats cow, couldn't get better.


Links to archive or it didn't happen. Nobody has time to bother with your subtweeting or vaguebooking and search for nothingburgers on YT.
BTW do you know what forum you're on? You do know what we do here, right? And that you're in no position to expect something without hard proofs? So go and find your receipts and then come back and make fools of those two if they so deserve.


Your right, I am a big ignorant about this forum, I thought asking politely would be the nice thing to do. But do not mistake me being nice for weakness. People may hide there names on here to "protect" themselves, but why hide if your going to stand by what you say and do.

In March when Handyman was launched I was making the rounds on the streams. On the Ikari Press channel, the last 5 min I thanked Crypto Comics for Editing TEXT for my campaign page. And Jesse the mod when bat shit crazy in the chat. I ran a comic book and game store during the day, and was making my book at night, so I had no idea Crypto and WC were at odds. Or I would never have mentioned it. The Harassment followed me on all the shows that day because Jesse was a mod on all the channels.

In an e-mail exchange I had with Jesse. I asked to talk to him and work it out. (not posting his e-mail address for obvious reasons)

Jesse Miller:
Then you really need to pay attention to the goings-on of comics gate. The guy is a complete fucking psycho and he threatened one of my friends with a firearm. If you don’t know that I don’t know what rock you’ve been living under. This is an about drama this is about our community and protecting it.

Jesse Miller:
To say that you stay out of the drama just means that you’re using us for an ATM and I don’t appreciate it one bit

Brad Ashworth:
Jesse, I have been under a rock and just working on my book. I can't keep watching everyone all the time. But I understand your point of view. I get you bro.

Jesse Miller:
You don’t have time to watch everyone? If you were watching anything you would know this. Did you just come in to comics gate for an easy paycheck? Never mind I don’t really care I’m out peace

Brad Ashworth:
Hey Jesse, you want to talk this out sometime? I do not think i did anything wrong, and would to clear the air bro.

At this point he discontinued e-mailing back and forth. In the evening I saw he was online and asked in his chat to talk and see about resolving the situation. So he invited me on. I knew I was walking into a lions den, and had to be careful about what I would say. Here is the link to a recording someone made of me and the altercation that took place.


I was ejected from the stream, as they continued to verbally attack my character.

I am not a pussy for defending myself, and trying to resolve a situation like an adult would. How many of you would knowingly go into a hostile environment to try and protect your project or business?
I am good at what I do, and I love making books, but I will be damned when some rando online decided to try and burn me to the ground over some beef they have with an editor. You got a problem then address me directly, or reach out, not try and spread rumors or lies. I treat everyone fairly and with respect.

Peace everyone, I'm out.
 
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