MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

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Pina Colada said:
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I love how he's butthurt over leaving money out the exact same way guys tip strippers; it's almost as if she was doing her job! That's like complaining a waitress took your spare money after paying the bill.
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Wow, so many goofy ass things in this MGTOW post:
- Dude makes sure he is fully stimulated to the point of climax before paying to get stimulated in public.
-Has such a distaste for women he compares them to wildlife, yet still is paying to see them
-Plays "trust" games with tips and focuses on the other men to create an adversarial situation with FUCKING STRIPPERS at their place of employment

I swear these guys are just convinced that if they hold out long enough disapproving of every woman they see, one of them will feel so terrible about it that they'll completely submit for any small amount of approval. I guess that's what happens when you've been romantically rejected 101% of the time.
 
OmniousAttributer said:
Asian women give back a little more in a relationship than white women. That is where they get this idea that Asian women are better. It is true.

For autistic faggots this works really well until they realise their relationship is founded upon transaction.
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If Asian women were so good Japs wouldn't be killing themselves all the time.
 
MGTOW in its online community attracts a lot of Spergs who like to play the game of its just them and not me. They want to believe there must be something ''wrong'' with women these days and not themselves. Of course, nothing is wrong with them. The rejection is just all because of the pesky third wave feminism. Sure...

A couple of the other cases are just men that have gotten out of rotten marriages or got screwed in the divorce process having to give their ex wife their house and they're pissed as Hell.
 
Basil II said:
Is Japan the closest thing to a first world dystopia? The Corporatism, the "You're just another worthless cog" culture, and the lack of sex and life.
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Yeah but so much entertainement! Just add in Soy Caf and we're basically 95% of the way there.
 
Sweetpeaa said:
MGTOW in its online community attracts a lot of Spergs who like to play the game of its just them and not me. They want to believe there must be something ''wrong'' with women these days and not themselves. Of course, nothing is wrong with them. The rejection is just all because of the pesky third wave feminism. Sure...

A couple of the other cases are just men that have gotten out of rotten marriages or got screwed in the divorce process having to give their ex wife their house and they're pissed as Hell.
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There are basically only three kinds of men who are MGTOW:

1) The bitter men who were actually screwed by a bitch, whether it was in a marriage/relationship or a divorce, and have decided "These hos ain't loyal".
2) Narcissistic, bitter virgins and "nice guys" (trademark) who think women owe them something, so they imagine that if we go back to Victorian norms with women having no rights, slaving away in the kitchen, then Western civilization will go back to being what it was meant to be, aka the neo-reactionaries.
3) Men who witnessed or know men who went through number 1, figure the rolling the dice and possibly coming up snake eyes ain't worth, so check out and switch to porn or whores
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
There are basically only three kinds of men who are MGTOW:

1) The bitter men who were actually screwed by a bitch, whether it was in a marriage/relationship or a divorce, and have decided "These hos ain't loyal".
2) Narcissistic, bitter virgins and "nice guys" (trademark) who think women owe them something, so they imagine that if we go back to Victorian norms with women having no rights, slaving away in the kitchen, then Western civilization will go back to being what it was meant to be, aka the neo-reactionaries.
3) Men who witnessed or know men who went through number 1, figure the rolling the dice and possibly coming up snake eyes ain't worth, so check out and switch to porn or whores
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To my understanding, "real" MGTOW began as nothing but 1s who convinced 3s to 'join', and eventually got flooded with 2s. A group of pissy man-children who think every woman on the planet is their ex got co-opted and taken over by incels in denial. They're all super angry that they can't attract a decent woman, make no mistake about their collective denial in that aspect. It's insane how many OG MGTOWs are black men who hate black women and can't attract respectable white women. It's nothing but a den of foxes screaming about sour grapes.
 
Youtube took down Turd Flinging Monkey's videos, channel is still up though. Currently the red pill community and MGTOW community are in a bit of a panic about this but really from an advertisers stand point you can't really sell to a broad audience with these guys, bitch about women everyday is a niche market. If they want to do something about it they need to make podcasts and their own sites work for them. In general Youtube isn't the place someone that isn't completely safe with their words and opinions is going to make a buck anymore.

TFM himself is a bit odd giving out financial advice while using a handpuppet and sexdoll. He was prepared for this at least he didn't completely rely on Youtube as a second income, other red pill channels and MGTOW channels do though. Youtube is going to clamp down but I don't think the complete opposite end of the spectrum will get the same treatment.
 
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Nonconsentual Pronouns said:
A group of pissy man-children who think every woman on the planet is their ex got co-opted and taken over by incels in denial.
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I think calling men angry about a bitter divorce "pissy man-children" is little bit too far out of left field. There are some people who have had legitimately bad experiences that have colored there perception of the world. Just like there are some women who see men only as dogs because of past relationships, there are some men who want nothing to do with women because their wife cheated on them, took the kids in the divorce, and got alimony, spousal support, and child support. I think there are real issues with how the law treats men in family court and domestic situations, and simply calling those who suffer from it "pissy", doesn't make the problems go away. Remember the cycle: bitches make men assholes, who subsequently act like assholes to women, who then become bitches, who act like bitches to other men, rinse and repeat. However, I think most of these men become egalitarians and MRAs, rather than go full MGTOW.

The Neo-reactionaries are the lower rungs on the ladder who couldn't get a decent woman or didn't know how, so they've attached themselves to this movement to try to puff up their own self-esteem. They express their little unrealistic reactionary fantasies thinking that they are the last sane men in an insane world, screaming into the void, trying to save as many men as they can. Turd Flinging Monkey and his ilk fall headlong into this category. They are the face of MGTOW because they are the most evangelical in their beliefs. If anyone could be described as "pissy man-children", its them.

The third group are like the "herbivore men" of Japan; they've just checked out of the dating game entirely, figuring they will be happier alone. Most of those guys may yet find the one and end their lives as MGTOW, or do something else productive with their lives
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
I think calling men angry about a bitter divorce "pissy man-children" is little bit too far out of left field. There are some people who have had legitimately bad experiences that have colored there perception of the world. Just like there are some women who see men only as dogs because of past relationships, there are some men who want nothing to do with women because their wife cheated on them, took the kids in the divorce, and got alimony, spousal support, and child support. I think there are real issues with how the law treats men in family court and domestic situations, and simply calling those who suffer from it "pissy", doesn't make the problems go away. Remember the cycle: bitches make men assholes, who subsequently act like assholes to women, who then become bitches, who act like bitches to other men, rinse and repeat. However, I think most of these men become egalitarians and MRAs, rather than go full MGTOW.

The Neo-reactionaries are the lower rungs on the ladder who couldn't get a decent woman or didn't know how, so they've attached themselves to this movement to try to puff up their own self-esteem. They express their little unrealistic reactionary fantasies thinking that they are the last sane men in an insane world, screaming into the void, trying to save as many men as they can. Turd Flinging Monkey and his ilk fall headlong into this category. They are the face of MGTOW because they are the most evangelical in their beliefs. If anyone could be described as "pissy man-children", its them.

The third group are like the "herbivore men" of Japan; they've just checked out of the dating game entirely, figuring they will be happier alone. Most of those guys may yet find the one and end their lives as MGTOW, or do something else productive with their lives
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Although, interestingly enough, according to some, conservatives are on average considered more attractive I have a theory that because of abstinence-only or no sex ed at all they are a lot more socially awkward about any topics regarding intimate relationships. Add a general rule of having fewer romantic partners and lower overall interaction with the opposite gender you end up with people who are a lot more prone to making sweeping assumptions about an entire gender based on little experience.
 
TendieMan said:
Although, interestingly enough, according to some, conservatives are on average considered more attractive I have a theory that because of abstinence-only or no sex ed at all they are a lot more socially awkward about any topics regarding intimate relationships. Add a general rule of having fewer romantic partners and lower overall interaction with the opposite gender you end up with people who are a lot more prone to making sweeping assumptions about an entire gender based on little experience.
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Not sure I necessarily agree with that sentiment. Fewer sexual partners also means much less baggage brought into a long term relationship. And just because one practices abstinence till marriage doesn't mean one has no experience with having an intimate relationship (sex is not the only component, or even the most important component of a relationship).
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Not sure I necessarily agree with that sentiment. Fewer sexual partners also means much less baggage brought into a long term relationship. And just because one practices abstinence till marriage doesn't mean one has no experience with having an intimate relationship (sex is not the only component, or even the most important component of a relationship).
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I'm not saying it is something that characterizes most of conservatives, they just kind of lean in that direction.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
There are some people who have had legitimately bad experiences that have colored there perception of the world. Just like there are some women who see men only as dogs because of past relationships
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I'm not at all dismissing individual bad experiences, and there's nothing pissy about being angry at your ex specifically when they did something wrong. What's pissy and childish is the outlook stemming from the idea that the world revolves around oneself.
ie; HE has had bad experiences with women, therefor ALL women are like the ones in his little world.

Yes, there are women who do the same thing, and we already discuss them and their blue hair much more than their male counterparts.
 
LMFAO what an epic prankster
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ATaxingWoman said:
LMFAO what an epic prankster
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I'd probably first get paranoid that someone scary was behind me then laugh or be weirded out by or embarrassed for the guy scared of a small woman potentially trying to mug them. Especially if this were in the middle of the day. Don't see any reason why or how this would ruin my self esteem unless I had some disfigurement. Maybe if someone naturally looks intimidating and is self conscious about it but that's not the most common thing in the world I imagine
 
A comment on the "neo-reactionary" aspect of MGTOW.

I have found that most online MGTOW criticize "TradCons" (e.g., conservative evangelicals) for not going far enough. For example, they'll fight abortion, but never against women's suffrage, no-fault divorce laws, etc. Social pathologies will be taken care of if we just take away the rights of women and establish true patriarchy. TFM tends to take this position.

Let's take that at face value for a moment, and assume that they are right. The problem for MGTOW is that they really would not want true patriarchy once they understood the cost. Not only do true patriarchies tend to be extremely religious, they also tend to be community rather than individually oriented, and thus tend to discourage degeneracy. Fedoras like TFM would have to give up their sex-dolls and would be expected to get married - often to a woman of the family's, rather than the individual's choice - and have a family. Patriarchies don't tend to reward "chaddery" either. If you were to deflower a girl, expect her father and brothers to kill you in order to avenge her and her family's honor. After all, you can't just expect to ruin someone's "property" and get away with it, can you? Patriarchy is not just a boy's club: there are strict rules of conduct governing female and male behavior.

This idea that we can achieve a patriarchal society with modern, secular values is absurd. Are these guys really willing to give up their hentai and individual freedom just so they can put women down? I really don't think so.
 
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