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Wasn't the assertion of the 500 million trannies killed everyday basically disproven? It's literally a propaganda phrase.

Also the "Not my job to educate you" phrase is stupid, clearly meant to be some kind of shallow bumper sticker phrase. If you are claiming moral authority on a matter, it literally is your job to educate people. Otherwise you're just making a power play where you assert something but don't have the fortitude to back it up or explain it. And as the drunk Hitchens said, what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
It's disproven outright by just doing simple math. If 500 million people died a day, the entire human race would be extinct in 2 weeks.
 
I use 500 million as hyperbole. Just the common assertion that trannies are routinely and endlessly killed everywhere, often with no real evidence to back it up.
The only people killing trannies (in the West) is themselves. Sure, in somewhere like the Middle / Far East, I can definitely see some sort of unspoken Tranny Genocide going on. However, anytime you try to bring that up, you're " Silencing discussion of Western transphobia " or whatever.
 
Wasn't the assertion of the 500 million trannies killed everyday basically disproven? It's literally a propaganda phrase.

Yeah it's because they use global murder rates and willfully misrepresent it.

You know where the highest murder rate for transwomen is? Latin America. You know what the the vast majority of them are? Prostitutes. You know how safe being a prostitute in Latin America is? Not fucking very.

And so they use it to suggest that transwomen in the US are being gunned down in the streets constantly.
 
You know where the highest murder rate for transwomen is? Latin America. You know what the the vast majority of them are? Prostitutes. You know how safe being a prostitute in Latin America is? Not fucking very.

Some of the highest kill count serial killers are in Latin America and they usually focus on prostitutes because they pretty much don't bother investigating these murders. If a few whores show up dead, who cares? This is the case to a lesser extent even in the U.S., but they take it to a huge new level of ineffectual police incompetence there.
 
Some of the highest kill count serial killers are in Latin America and they usually focus on prostitutes because they pretty much don't bother investigating these murders. If a few whores show up dead, who cares? This is the case to a lesser extent even in the U.S., but they take it to a huge new level of ineffectual police incompetence there.

Something astounding I heard from Brazillians I know is that, it takes less paperwork for cops if they kill a guy, than if they arrest them. So cops in Brazil will just shoot people, because it's easier.
 
Strype has made a trans bingo card in order to encourage more hatching of eggs. According to him, having an interest in tabletop gaming, getting bullied and being interested in art and writing means you're trans:

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Not even denying or trying to hide that it's a social contagion:

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However, he is not going to be transitioning IRL:

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Not everyone buys it:

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"Want to be a mother"
... You're not gonna be either if you pull that shit.
 
yikes she needs to let go already

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Katti getting smacked around right now by one of Jazz's friends "LisaNani", who claims to seen the DMs between Jazz and Katti. Kati's story falling apart the more she opens her mouth. She keeps saying she wants Jazz to apologize and say being "trans isn't a sin", yet apparently she didn't even know Jazz before any of this? Does she just pick a new artist each month to harass for their private thoughts on gender??

Just looks like plain old obsessive stalker behavior.






 
Wasn't the assertion of the 500 million trannies killed everyday basically disproven? It's literally a propaganda phrase.

Also the "Not my job to educate you" phrase is stupid, clearly meant to be some kind of shallow bumper sticker phrase. If you are claiming moral authority on a matter, it literally is your job to educate people. Otherwise you're just making a power play where you assert something but don't have the fortitude to back it up or explain it. And as the drunk Hitchens said, what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

As far as I know, 2018 had about 24 trans people murdered in the US (I don't remember the exact number). That's counting all type of murder, not necessarily hate crimes.

Compared to the number of murder overall in the US, that's...pretty low, stupidly low even to say it's such a big problem and bring it as "WE TRANZ WUZ MURDEREDED". I am pretty sure suicide is much more of a problem at that point.

Really sad, when I think of it: They're so bothered by trying to look like huge victims, they end up making more trouble for them than solving anything. Ah well.
 
I love that "It's not my job to educate you". If you're trying to push for rights, awareness, and change, it IS your job. People are lazy in general and aren't going to look shit up. The general public aren't interested in trans-related problems. Expecting people to change without educating them is ignorant. It's easy to scream and call someone a name like "transphobe" but it takes effort to make a change. People like this don't want to make a change. If they did, they would try. Violence begets violence. Ignorance begets ignorance. Acting whild isn't going to help the trans cause. It's going to make more people dislike you.
 
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I love that "It's not my job to educate you". If you're trying to push for rights, awareness, and change, it IS your job. People are lazy in general and aren't going to look shit up. The general public aren't interested in your trans problems. Expecting people to change without educating them is ignorant. It's easy to scream and call someone a name like "transphobe" but it takes effort to make a change. People like this don't want to make a change. If they did, they would try. They want to feel oppressed instead of trying to fight it. In order to feel oppressed, you must have an oppressor. Since there aren't many actual oppressors of trans people, they have to make oppressors. This is where calling everyone a transphobe comes in. Everyone who has even a slightly different opinion than you. This coincides with modern day phlegminism, where women are pretty much equal to men, and they don't have any real issues to fight for anymore, so they make up problems to fight against. Violence begets violence. Ignorance begets ignorance. Acting like a baboon isn't going to help your trans cause at all. It's going to make more people dislike you.


"Every great cause begins as a movement, Becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." - Eric Hoffer
 
Here's a bit of advice for you guys: if you're running low on money, just go and punch some dumb furry in the face, take their wallet and just blame your "deprussion" when you're called out on it.

A few days back, there was a post here about Vani/ashketchumsays bailing on their clients (some of whom are reportedly their friends, how lovely) and wiping their social media because being called out for being a shameless con artist who has been scamming their clients for nearly a decade was just too much for their fragile mind (although their shop and Patreon were apparently left up - make of that what you will). However, the source of drama hasn't really been Vani themselves as they went AWOL but an intense shitshow about how cruel Vani's critics are for not taking what is probably their 3rd or 4th "disappearance" seriously.

The most popular source of this bizarre mindset is here, though there are more if you look through their tag: https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105263010271047680
(archive: https://archive.fo/PeQFy)

This exceptional individual (who claims that Vani also owes them art like it somehow authorises them to speak over any other clients) also somehow misinterpreted the words of CyndiFA (the client Vani actually tried to slander when they asked for updates). Apparently, being glad that Vani was supposedly leaving the fandom is akin to saying 'i'm glad they may be dead' if your white knighting has left you with zero reading comprehension: https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105244981042671617 (archive: https://archive.fo/4Iwze)

Why anybody who purely has a professional contact with Vani should be concerned about their mental health is anyone's guess but you can bet the ever classy furry community are going to try and argue that, somehow, you're the biggest piece of shit alive if you don't care about every aspect of a professional's personal life. Be sure to try and find out whether or not that one McDonald's employee who spat in your burger has "suicidal tendencies" before you complain to their manager because, according to furries, you're completely void of human compassion if you feel it's actually none of your business/concern.

There was also a long ass bitchfest between the aforementioned autist and one of Vani's more vocal critics about the supposed ethics of being skeptical of a known thief bailing with other people's $$$ without a word to anyone: https://twitter.com/IVoxxious/status/1105276364444311552 (archive: https://archive.fo/NWDYQ)
https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105290395150217216 (archive: https://archive.fo/XuQlO)

Despite the fact that absolutely nobody wished that Vani had killed themselves (because there was no sign of it in the tags and how the fuck would they get their art/money otherwise?), Vani's fantards - sorry, "friends" - are running with this version of events despite a complete lack of evidence and the harsh reality that this is apparently standard procedure for Vani - and any furry scam artist, for that matter - when they get called out for their shit. They also apparently posted "a suicide note" a month or so back (conveniently around the time this beware appeared) but I don't know if it's been saved by anyone. Either way, don't tell these furries that anybody with an iota of imagination could just write up a suicide note to bait for sympathy points in the event of a scandal, because that makes you a shit heap of a human being. As opposed to one who robs their clients, apparently.

So, with that said, be sure to add 1+ suicide note if having "mental health problems" doesn't give you enough leeway to outright rob a person. Doesn't even have to have an iota of honesty. Some idiot in the furry community will surely believe you and will probably just hurl their wallet at you even when you're in court for shooting up a bank.

Oh, yes and Vani has since posted an update through their friend on their Twitter so they were perfectly fine all along. Just like all the other times they've "disappeared" and come back. How shocking: https://archive.fo/482lv

Probably missed a few citations here and there but this is the root of it.
 
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Here's a bit of advice for you guys: if you're running low on money, just go and punch some dumb furry in the face, take their wallet and just blame your "deprussion" when you're called out on it.

A few days back, there was a post here about Vani/ashketchumsays bailing on their clients (some of whom are reportedly their friends, how lovely) and wiping their social media because being called out for being a shameless con artist who has been scamming their clients for nearly a decade was just too much for their fragile mind (although their shop and Patreon were apparently left up - make of that what you will). However, the source of drama hasn't really been Vani themselves with them going AWOL and such but an intense shitshow about how cruel Vani's critics are for not taking what is probably their 3rd or 4th "disappearance" seriously.

The most popular source of this bizarre mindset is here, though there are more if you look through their tag: https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105263010271047680
(archive: https://archive.fo/PeQFy)

This exceptional individual (who claims that Vani also owes them art like it somehow authorises them to speak over any other clients) also somehow misinterpreted the words of CyndiFA (the one client Vani actually tried to slander when they asked for updates). Apparently, being glad that Vani was supposedly leaving the fandom is akin to saying 'i'm glad they may be dead' if your white knighting has left you with zero reading comprehension: https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105244981042671617 (archive: https://archive.fo/4Iwze)

Why anybody who purely has a professional contact with Vani should be concerned about their mental health is anyone's guess but you can bet the ever classy furry community are going to try and argue that, somehow, you're the biggest piece of shit alive if you don't care about every aspect of a professional's personal life. Be sure to try and find out whether or not that one McDonald's employee who spat in your burger has "suicidal tendencies" before you complain to their manager because, according to furries, you're completely void of human compassion if you feel it's actually none of your business/concern.

There was also a long ass bitchfest between the aforementioned autist and one of Vani's more vocal critics about the supposed ethics of being skeptical of a known thief bailing with other people's $$$ without a word to anyone: https://twitter.com/IVoxxious/status/1105276364444311552 (archive: https://archive.fo/NWDYQ)
https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105290395150217216 (archive: https://archive.fo/XuQlO)

Despite the fact that absolutely nobody wished that Vani had killed themselves (because there was no sign of it in the tags and how the fuck would they get their art/money otherwise?), Vani's fantards - sorry, "friends" - are running with this version of events despite a complete lack of evidence and the harsh reality that this is apparently standard procedure for Vani - and any furry scam artist, for that matter - when they get called out for their shit. They also apparently posted "a suicide note" a month or so back (conveniently around the time this beware appeared) but I don't know if it's been saved by anyone. Either way, don't tell these furries that anybody with an iota of imagination could just write up a suicide note to bait for sympathy points in the event of a scandal, because that makes you a shit heap of a human being. As opposed to one who robs their clients, apparently.

So, with that said, be sure to add 1+ suicide note if having "mental health problems" doesn't give you enough leeway to outright rob a person. Doesn't even have to have an iota of honesty. Some idiot in the furry community will surely believe you and will probably just hurl their wallet at you even when you're in court for shooting up a bank.

Oh, yes and Vani has since posted an update through their friend on their Twitter so they were perfectly fine all along. Just like all the other times they've "disappeared" and come back. How shocking: https://archive.fo/482lv

Probably missed a few citations here and there but this is the root of it.
Hi, first time poster long time lurker. I got screenshots of Vanis 'suicidal' ramblings because it was so narcissitic, manipulative, and entitled it was kind of ridiculous and left me in no doubt she just uses suicide to manipulate her followers and guilt people out of asking about their art and refunds. I apologize these are only screencaps as I did not think to archive the tweet at the time. In regards to her 'money problems' they're not exactly out of her control. Among other expenditures she took out a 16k loan for a car (she wrote a long sob story on google docs detailing this car loan among other things in a since deleted journal), bought expensive breeds of cat, and in this latest debacle where she was facing eviction was paying approximately 1.5k a month for their own apartment bc if the testimony or their previous roomate is to be believed they're a nightmare to live with/too egotistical to share a space with. Also keep in mind she is now 28 years old and has been doing this for approximately 10 years
 

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Here's a bit of advice for you guys: if you're running low on money, just go and punch some dumb furry in the face, take their wallet and just blame your "deprussion" when you're called out on it.

A few days back, there was a post here about Vani/ashketchumsays bailing on their clients (some of whom are reportedly their friends, how lovely) and wiping their social media because being called out for being a shameless con artist who has been scamming their clients for nearly a decade was just too much for their fragile mind (although their shop and Patreon were apparently left up - make of that what you will). However, the source of drama hasn't really been Vani themselves with them going AWOL and such but an intense shitshow about how cruel Vani's critics are for not taking what is probably their 3rd or 4th "disappearance" seriously.

The most popular source of this bizarre mindset is here, though there are more if you look through their tag: https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105263010271047680
(archive: https://archive.fo/PeQFy)

This exceptional individual (who claims that Vani also owes them art like it somehow authorises them to speak over any other clients) also somehow misinterpreted the words of CyndiFA (the one client Vani actually tried to slander when they asked for updates). Apparently, being glad that Vani was supposedly leaving the fandom is akin to saying 'i'm glad they may be dead' if your white knighting has left you with zero reading comprehension: https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105244981042671617 (archive: https://archive.fo/4Iwze)

Why anybody who purely has a professional contact with Vani should be concerned about their mental health is anyone's guess but you can bet the ever classy furry community are going to try and argue that, somehow, you're the biggest piece of shit alive if you don't care about every aspect of a professional's personal life. Be sure to try and find out whether or not that one McDonald's employee who spat in your burger has "suicidal tendencies" before you complain to their manager because, according to furries, you're completely void of human compassion if you feel it's actually none of your business/concern.

There was also a long ass bitchfest between the aforementioned autist and one of Vani's more vocal critics about the supposed ethics of being skeptical of a known thief bailing with other people's $$$ without a word to anyone: https://twitter.com/IVoxxious/status/1105276364444311552 (archive: https://archive.fo/NWDYQ)
https://twitter.com/Anuvia/status/1105290395150217216 (archive: https://archive.fo/XuQlO)

Despite the fact that absolutely nobody wished that Vani had killed themselves (because there was no sign of it in the tags and how the fuck would they get their art/money otherwise?), Vani's fantards - sorry, "friends" - are running with this version of events despite a complete lack of evidence and the harsh reality that this is apparently standard procedure for Vani - and any furry scam artist, for that matter - when they get called out for their shit. They also apparently posted "a suicide note" a month or so back (conveniently around the time this beware appeared) but I don't know if it's been saved by anyone. Either way, don't tell these furries that anybody with an iota of imagination could just write up a suicide note to bait for sympathy points in the event of a scandal, because that makes you a shit heap of a human being. As opposed to one who robs their clients, apparently.

So, with that said, be sure to add 1+ suicide note if having "mental health problems" doesn't give you enough leeway to outright rob a person. Doesn't even have to have an iota of honesty. Some idiot in the furry community will surely believe you and will probably just hurl their wallet at you even when you're in court for shooting up a bank.

Oh, yes and Vani has since posted an update through their friend on their Twitter so they were perfectly fine all along. Just like all the other times they've "disappeared" and come back. How shocking: https://archive.fo/482lv

Probably missed a few citations here and there but this is the root of it.
Christ Vani. I remember them from the early 2000s on ED. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if this was another ploy to get people off their back for the thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars they owe in commissions and merch. At some point they had a "manager" to help them get their shit together that reached out through Artist-Beware to find commissioners that they owed. I'll have to look but I think that LJ post got up to three pages of owed commissions and the manager bailed after seeing how much had to be done and how ungrateful Vani was.

They have a very long track record of using emotional blackmail to get commissioners to back off and also has zero qualms about using their family to get a loan under their name without their knowledge but it's okay they was in a bad place.

It's sad because with their talent they probably could've been successful if they weren't a greedy narcissist.
 
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Hi, first time poster long time lurker. I got screenshots of Vanis 'suicidal' ramblings because it was so narcissitic, manipulative, and entitled it was kind of ridiculous and left me in no doubt she just uses suicide to manipulate her followers and guilt people out of asking about their art and refunds. I apologize these are only screencaps as I did not think to archive the tweet at the time. In regards to her 'money problems' they're not exactly out of her control. Among other expenditures she took out a 16k loan for a car (she wrote a long sob story on google docs detailing this car loan among other things in a since deleted journal), bought expensive breeds of cat, and in this latest debacle where she was facing eviction was paying approximately 1.5k a month for their own apartment bc if the testimony or their previous roomate is to be believed they're a nightmare to live with/too egotistical to share a space with. Also keep in mind she is now 28 years old and has been doing this for approximately 10 years

Thanks for those screenshots. I guess you can write the most repulsive and scathing response to people who have a legit reason to dislike your entitled, manipulative ass as long as you throw in a few 'i don't want to be here any more' quotes and masquerade it as a 'suicide note'.

And I also saw the tweet about the loan. It's quite unbelievable/laughable when it's paired with the tweets demanding that people should feel empathy for Vani when their scamming has actually gone beyond 'internet drama'. Even with Anuvia saying 'well, they OWE me art and i'm quite happy to lick their ass crack slurp slurp', they're still straight up defending somebody who has gone and left their own family to deal with their debt. Oh, wait, sorry: they claim they're not 'defending' Vani but they're also demanding that people who have a legit grievance with Vani shut the hell up and pretend to be worried while they make off with their money. Or be labelled a 'monster'. So, it's basically the same thing. Although I'm sure it takes an actual monster to defraud their grandparents who, from the sounds of it, have raised them since childhood. So, maybe check yourself and the company you keep before jumping on your soapbox and judging others, dear?

Also, to Anuvia (and any other clients who think they'll get their art faster by enabling Vani and generally being self-righteous buttbuddies who are willing to throw other clients under the bus for having the audacity to be pissed): you won't get shit. People like Vani don't need 'friends', they just need a couple of dumbasses to cover their ass and throw them a few dollars when life gets a little too hard and they could drop and replace you like a new hat. They've done it to their family and a handful of former friends: don't think they won't do it to another bunch of nobodies on the internet. You're expendable and it's actually quite pathetic how you're so taken in by somebody whose only real 'asset' is drawing cartoon dogs.
 
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Thanks for those screenshots. I guess you can write the most repulsive and scathing response to people who have a legit reason to dislike your entitled, manipulative ass as long as you throw in a few 'i don't want to be here any more' quotes and masquerade it as a 'suicide note'.

And I also saw the tweet about the loan. It's quite unbelievable/laughable when it's paired with the tweets demanding that people should feel empathy for Vani when their scamming has actually gone beyond 'internet drama'. Even with Anuvia saying 'well, they OWE me art and i'm quite happy to lick their ass crack slurp slurp', they're still straight up defending somebody who has gone and left their own family to deal with their debt. Oh, wait, sorry: not 'defending' them but demanding that people who have a legit grievance with them shut the hell up and pretend to be worried about someone who has made off with their money. Or be labelled a 'monster'. Even though I'm sure it takes a special kind of person to shamelessly defraud their grandparents who, from the sounds of it, have raised them since childhood. So, maybe check yourself and the company you keep before judging others, dear.

Also, to Anuvia and any other clients who think they'll get their art faster by enabling Vani and generally being self-righteous buttbuddies who are willing to throw their fellow victims under the bus: you won't get shit. People like Vani don't need 'friends', they just need a couple of dumbasses to do their bidding and throw them a few dollars when life gets a little too hard and they could drop and replace you like a new hat. They've done it to their family, don't think they won't do it to a bunch of nobodies on the internet. You're expendable and it's actually quite pathetic how you're so taken in by somebody whose only real 'asset' is drawing cartoon dogs.
I look forward to the inevitable "weh nobody likes me so I guess I'll go eat worms" posts once that class action lawsuit people are talking about is underway. Vani is a repulsive egotisical cunt who would have been fired/ousted long ago in any other freelancing circle and the sad part is she can get away with it because furries are just that stupid.
 
Hi, first time poster long time lurker. I got screenshots of Vanis 'suicidal' ramblings because it was so narcissitic, manipulative, and entitled it was kind of ridiculous and left me in no doubt she just uses suicide to manipulate her followers and guilt people out of asking about their art and refunds. I apologize these are only screencaps as I did not think to archive the tweet at the time. In regards to her 'money problems' they're not exactly out of her control. Among other expenditures she took out a 16k loan for a car (she wrote a long sob story on google docs detailing this car loan among other things in a since deleted journal), bought expensive breeds of cat, and in this latest debacle where she was facing eviction was paying approximately 1.5k a month for their own apartment bc if the testimony or their previous roomate is to be believed they're a nightmare to live with/too egotistical to share a space with. Also keep in mind she is now 28 years old and has been doing this for approximately 10 years

If I had a dollar for every time a furry artist who gets called out suddenly makes a suicide sympathy post I'd be able to afford a MilesDF picture.

Here's the thing furries forget:
You don't own that money until you deliver the product. That money is not yours until you have earned it.

This sort of irresponsible behavior is why she's getting targeted, she's running off with other people's cash to fuel her own spending addiction. Her post is like a damn entitled 16 year old who maxed out daddy's credit card and the only person she can blame is herself, she did this to herself and she's trying to guilt others into feeling sorry for her. It won't fly anymore, she's a dumb bitch.

It shocks me that people have waited 2+ years for this art instead of charging back before paypal expires.
 
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