💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[BillyGoat2]

This year has been insane. First Jussie Smollett fakes an attack, then Journalists are sued by Sandman, Gavin sueing the SPLC, Now Vic will probably take down the half the dubbing industry.

Everything I wish would happen is. The entire leftie progressive bullshit side is falling apart

i'd honestly be surprised if its anything more than a bump in the road for all of it as a whole, sadly.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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Uh Oh! Shane may be involved after all. New video is up

Real Lawyer Explains potential Tortious Interference With Contract for Vic Mignogna

Vic Mignogna was fired from Funimation and Rooster Teeth and disinvited from conventions. We've been lacking a critical piece of tortious interference with c...

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Oh Shane, you glorious potato. What have you done? Starting to look like he will get to join the main cast after all.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Hm. I might be missing some, and these might be out of order:

• Nick started a Go Fund Me for Vic. It hit 100k+, and much screeching was to be had. The official term: JUSTICE BONER.
• KickVic started several fake Go Fund Mes, including one for an apparently fake Feminist charity, and several others for shit like "I can't afford cat food" and "oh god rent is expensive." None of them went anywhere.
• PULL tried to have a battle of wits with the internet, but arrived unarmed.
• Vic's lawyer turned out to be incredibly awesome. Has been playing 40k since the first edition, has published his own wargame.
• Vic's lawyer has a special team he calls the Amazon Legion of Doom. Female lawyers, 2 of which are rape victims, 1 of which is a minority. This shouldn't matter, but it does prevent the upcoming "they're picking on us wammynz" defense the VAs and Marzgurl was going to use.
• The VAs, MarzGurl, and a few hangers on all talked shit. None of them got lawyers.
• Vic's Lawyer said 5 words to one of the VA's soyboytoys which was a blatant "we are suing you" message. Went over his head.
• KickVic all started clamming up and freaking out when legal documents may or may not have been delivered this week.
• A few of them were absolutely shocked, SHOCKED to discover that Vic might be suing THEM and not Sony.
• One of the fujoshis deleted everything after the farms revealed her power level.
• It was found out that Vic was dating Rial, one of the main KickVicers and one of his coworkers, around 2007 to 2010. This caused his engagement to fall apart.
• The voice of vegeta might have been betrayed by someone at Anime News Network / Funimation's Lawyer. Or might not have. A private DM, possibly fake, was leaked, wherein he claims to have more dirt on Vic.
• Todd Haberkorn was accused of rape by Jessica Pridemore in an attempt to "prove" that Vic is bad. Or something. He's suing too.
• ANN was found to be blatantly shopping the hit piece against Vic, showing conspiracy and malace. I.e., they're fucked. They pulled a Gawker afterwards. ("ethics? lol")
• Japan Times pushed a hit piece on Vic after only contacting the KickVic side, intentionally.
• Still absolutely no evidence at all has been produced.
• Both ANN and JT claimed harassment when people called them out for being shit at their jobs.
• ResetEra and PULL started whining that this lynch mob against Vic is just taking too long. And apparently Vic and his fans are fighting back, which is like, totally stupid and stuffs.
• We had a delightful debate on the merits of Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, the best anime / manga of the past year or so.
• We discovered that the gay incest child porn that Vic might have refused to sign has a fandom name -- Elricest, based on the last name of the two main characters of Full Metal Alchemist. Fujoshis are fucking degenerates.
• Someone on the KickVic side of things started mass flagging Nick Rekieta off Twitter.
• Some Conventions have announced they're having Vic attend, which got them swarmed by the KickVic and Fujoshits.
• Nick Rekieta apparently found some sort of lead, thanks possibly to Shawn, that people are intentionally interfering with Vic's contracts with conventions. Calling and telling them they need to drop Vic because he's an evilbadman and shit. This is the fabled "Tort Interference with a Contract" that Mark Waid is getting nailed with in comicsgate and is uh... well. It's just one more thing on the pile, but it's a BIG thing on the pile.

I think that's about it, yeah?

Also, Vic Mignogna was invited to HawaiiCon 2019. Immediate calls to boycott it by the dangerhairs. Turns out a few of them are linked to i09 article (thanks to Super Girl). Names: Leah Rose and Kelly Onelani.

Additionally, one of the #kickvic pests that goes by NJ4K (real name is Josh Clark) might be a predator himself.

 

[Jaimas]

Oh Shane, you glorious potato. What have you done? Starting to look like he will get to join the main cast after all.

Finally, his shoe reported him.

 

[BoxofMonkeys]

Finally, his shoe reported him.

Pity the shoe was too late to save the chair.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Question regarding discovery.
Say they open Sabats DMs, and find some other unrelated criminal stuff, like pics of him hip deep in a 12 year old dressed as Yamcha?
Is that something that would be addressed separately, or are they only getting relevant tweets?

That would involve the police at that point, or used as evidence against Funimation's suit, depending on the severity of the issue.

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Apparantly, "criticism" and "discovery" are "harassment". They keep throwing the word "harassment" around like it's candy. If you really felt like you were being harassed on the internet, why not just ignore them? The ones that aren't doxxing you. And block them. Why do you have to nuke your account like HanLeia and Ron Soye?

I really want MarzGurl to get sued, to get that retraction request letter at her doorstep. It would be a real shame if Vic and Ty didn't pursue that.

I would just like to address something here, did Ron Toye just publicly proclaim that Vic Mignogna admitted to his sexual deviancy on camera and is currently in counseling for it, when in reality Vic Mignogna is(hopefully)suing the everloving shit out of some bitches, possibly including Ron himself?

I'm just blind or stupid, right? I'm not reading this correctly, right? I'm definitely not reading what is essentially a man denying reality openly and replacing it with his own, right? ...right?

It never occurred to Ron that a "counselor" could also mean a lawyer according to Merriam Webster, DIctionary.com and other dictionaries. Vic could have told his "counselor" his plight, and the "counselor" could have said for Vic to take legal action. I made a full post on this that I'll link

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It's clear that Ron Soye doesn't know the definition of a "counselor". It never occurred to Ron that Vic could have gone to a counselor and address his plight and asked the counselor what he could do, for the counselor to tell him to seek legal action.

This guy will look up the legal terms for "harassment" and talk about muh ethics and shit, but has no intention of looking up what the word "counselor" could mean. What a joke.

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Ron is a dumb motherfucker. He's so invested in the things he wants to pay attention to that he has no knowledge of the things he doesn't pay attention to in this entire situation, which is why he kept mouthing off over the goddamn internet.

Nevermind the fact that he essentially gave his personal information to Nick because of that complaint. If he watched Nick's streams, if he actually watches Nick's streams (which he doesn't), he would have shut the fuck up, retained a lawyer and knew what he and his buddies could be sued for. Now, Nick is going to embarrass him in the same way he did with Scott.

MarzGurl deleted the tweet


Also Hanleia is back on Twitter. Her account has been restored but it's protected right now:

https://twitter.com/hanleia

Did you or anyone else archive MarzGurl's tweet?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Nevermind the face that he essentially gave his personal information to Nick because of that complaint. If he watched Nick's streams, if he actually watches Nick's streams (which he doesn't), he would have shut the fuck up, retained a lawyer and knew what he and his buddies could be sued for. Now, Nick is going to embarrass him in the same way he did with Scott.

This is what really gets me about this whole mess. They are completely oblivious to what Vic is doing and who is doing it on his behalf beyond complaining about "the black face lawyer" and assuming Ty Beard is not a big deal because he only has a single tweet on twitter. Which is funny because most of us have probably gone over the ResetEra and PULL thread a couple of times by now (spoiler: they don't have any proof of the claims against Vic either). If KiwiFarms is ever hinted at by any of them, its in the same way people talk about Voldemort. Cannot name the dark lord of the internet for fear it gives him power! Its almost certain the ban hammer is being wielded far and wide to keep out the wrongthink. They are so far inside their hug box that they don't even know why they need to keep talking about it anymore.

 

[Tard]

Funny how PULL members and others blocking sprees on twitter are starting to bite them in the ass in regards to being informed on what the fuck is going on

 

[YarrBlueballs]

This is what really gets me about this whole mess. They are completely oblivious to what Vic is doing and who is doing it on his behalf beyond complaining about "the black face lawyer" and assuming Ty Beard is not a big deal because he only has a single tweet on twitter. Which is funny because most of us have probably gone over the ResetEra and PULL thread a couple of times by now (spoiler: they don't have any proof of the claims against Vic either). If KiwiFarms is ever hinted at by any of them, its in the same way people talk about Voldemort. Cannot name the dark lord of the internet for fear it gives him power! Its almost certain the ban hammer is being wielded far and wide to keep out the wrongthink. They are so far inside their hug box that they don't even know why they need to keep talking about it anymore.

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I know it's cliche to compare them to cults, but really they show all the signs. Dramatic leaders, purity spirals, information restriction, self-imposed ignorance, mass sociopathy, yadayadayada. These people really do live in their own world, and now that the real world and real consequences are bearing down on them, they're tripling down in the hopes that their religion/god/crusade will save them.

 

[Burnout]

I know it's cliche to compare them to cults, but really they show all the signs. Dramatic leaders, purity spirals, information restriction, self-imposed ignorance, mass sociopathy, yadayadayada. These people really do live in their own world, and now that the real world and real consequences are bearing down on them, they're tripling down in the hopes that their religion/god/crusade will save them.

...and "unfortunately" for them, they don't have a walled compound, armory full of "assault weapons", and tons of ammunition. Do they even have spiked Kool-Aid to fall back on?

 

[captkrisma]

Couldn't it also possibly be some of the VA's talking to the organizers too, like "Hey Funimation dropped him because of this" type deal?

That was essentially what I was getting to with the conspiracy part. Jen Brown possibly talked to EPCC organizers to avoid inviting Vic, because it would make sense fandom-wise to have Ed and Al together at conventions. I mean, they have Bulk and Skull from the original Power Rangers showing up, so why not Ed and Al from FMA?

Bottom Line: People are not booking Vic because of whisper network.

 

[UY 690]

She didn't really nuke her account as much as she deleted it and then immediately re-established it as sort of a weird DFE method. Possibly as a means of hiding shit (joke is on her, Twitter has backups, even in the event of account deletion). Despite earlier speculation, we can now safely say the person that reestablished it is indeed her:

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Funny enough, I've never once talked to the bitch. Before, or now.

Funny still. I never was blocked by her. Probably unlike most Twitter wars? I don't use Twitter to tweet hashtags or fight other users. Mostly I am a bystander. I mostly retweet artwork online. So it doesn't matter.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Whoa whoa whoa I think we can all agree, F**K Harmony Gold.

Talking from the BattleTech side (Granted Macross Plus is probably the last good Macross), the last straw was the HG lawsuit against Harebrained Games due to the upcoming BattleTech game. Granted they were also going after Piranha Games (For using the Unseen) and Jordan Weismann aka the old owner of FASA when HG sued the last time. I get the last two but Harebrained was pulled in with some really crappy evidence.

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The Mechs are the Atlas, Shadowhawk (Medium Hillhumper) and the Locust, which look nothing like their counterparts. Like it was just stupid to even try but HG is known for going after companies with Mechs who have pilots and guns so was not surprised.

Harmony Gold really needs it's own thread down in Media. They are quite literally actual Italian (plus Turkish and Chinese) Mobsters with direct ties to ex Italian PM Silvio Berlesconi. HG was how he laundered hundred of millions of tax dollars to his son. There is so much fucked up shit involving HG and yet the thing everyone notices is the damn Nerd cartoon show. Everyone just assumes they are some sort of bastards about Robotech, when the truth is far wilder. Nick or Lemnard could probably do a week on them alone.

The interesting thing is, this lawsuit is running parallel to the Covington Kids Defamation lawsuits, currently CNN is facing $250 MILLION in damages.

Even better the CNN suit is $275 mil. The WaPo one is $250

It never occurred to Ron that a "counselor" could also mean a lawyer according to Merriam Webster, DIctionary.com and other dictionaries. Vic could have told his "counselor" his plight, and the "counselor" could have said for Vic to take legal action. I made a full post on this that I'll link

Given Vic's deep professed faith and involvement in his church it is fairly guaranteed that his Counceling is with his Minister. Not a "Therapist to teach him not to creep" or whatever the self professed morals NPC's proclaim. He is at the worst moment of his life. He is seeking help in dealing with that. As they say Faith will get you through. (And in Vic's case it sure seems to be working. )

 

[Stygian Evil]

This is Steve Shives' level of blocking: i've never met this person, i've never talk to this person; i "liked" nick's tweets here and there and i think i made one or two comments since this whole thing began... i just googled this creature because of the now erased marzgurl's tweet... but w/e

 

[Rotollo]

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This is Steve Shives' level of blocking: i've never met this person, i've never talk to this person; i "liked" nick's tweets here and there and i think i made one or two comments since this whole thing began... i just googled this creature because of the now erased marzgurl's tweet... but w/e

10 bucks on her using that old ass block bot from 2014 due to being a cowardly Fujo degenerate.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

10 bucks on her using that old ass block bot from 2014 due to being a cowardly Fujo degenerate.

There's a reason why fujoshi's literal translation is rotten girl.

 

[Least Concern]

That would involve the police at that point, or used as evidence against Funimation's suit, depending on the severity of the issue.

I highly doubt it would be admissible as evidence in Mignogna v Funimation. It wouldn't be relevant to that case.

I also highly doubt any actual child porn will be encountered if/when this goes to discovery. In my mind it's a stand-in for "some unrelated illegal activity." Assuming or even hypothesizing any of these people are trading CP on Twitter is going a little far.

 

[AnOminous]

But A-Kon is also smart enough to see the enormous stupidity of what Shane may have admitted to doing.

Shane is so goddamn dumb he doesn't just shoot himself in the foot, he shoots off the feet of the people standing next to him too. In a fight you hope someone this goddamn dumb is on the other side.

We were talking about tortious interference from the beginning of this thread and why it would be great if it could be proven because of Texas having such a great version of it.

And this dumb motherfucker goes and maybe provides the last element needed.

This year has been insane. First Jussie Smollett fakes an attack, then Journalists are sued by Sandman, Gavin sueing the SPLC, Now Vic will probably take down the half the dubbing industry.

SPLC isn't going anywhere even if they somehow lose to McInnes for millions and they probably won't. They have literally billions in assets spread out all over the world in an overseas asset structure that would be the envy of Scientology.

...and "unfortunately" for them, they don't have a walled compound, armory full of "assault weapons", and tons of ammunition. Do they even have spiked Kool-Aid to fall back on?

Soylent has lots of lead, cadmium and other heavy metals in it. They drink a lot of that.

 

[The Incel Whisperer]

This year has been insane. First Jussie Smollett fakes an attack, then Journalists are sued by Sandman, Gavin sueing the SPLC, Now Vic will probably take down the half the dubbing industry.

Everything I wish would happen is. The entire leftie progressive bullshit side is falling apart

We also found out recently that not only did amber heard lie about depp abusing her but that she was beating his ass (and apparenly cucking him 2?) The whole time! 2019 has beem really wild to say the least

 

[DanteFraco]

She didn't really nuke her account as much as she deleted it and then immediately re-established it as sort of a weird DFE method. Possibly as a means of hiding shit (joke is on her, Twitter has backups, even in the event of account deletion). Despite earlier speculation, we can now safely say the person that reestablished it is indeed her:

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Funny enough, I've never once talked to the bitch. Before, or now.

I never been in any tread or spoke with her, so I can confirm she been using istandwithvic hashtag as a block list.