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'Empire' star Jussie Smollett attacked in possible hate crime
By Sandra Gonzalez, CNN

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...tertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html

“Empire" actor Jussie Smollett was attacked in the early morning hours on Tuesday in what Chicago police are calling a possible hate crime.

Smollett was attacked by two people "yelling out racial and homophobic slurs" and "poured an unknown chemical substance on the victim," police said.

According to police, one of Smollett's alleged attackers also put a rope around his neck. Both fled the scene.

Smollett took himself to Northwestern Hospital and "is in good condition," police told CNN.

Later Tuesday, CNN's Don Lemon spoke to Smollett and a mutual friend who was at the hospital with the actor. Smollett confirmed the incident took place.

He was shaken and angry that an attack like this could happen. Smollett told CNN he fought back at the attackers.

"Given the severity of the allegations, we are taking this investigation very seriously and treating it as a possible hate crime," the police statement said.

Smollett has starred on Fox's "Empire" since 2015. He plays Jamal, a successful singer in the musical Lyon family. Like his character, Smollett identifies as gay.

"We are deeply saddened and outraged to learn that a member of our 'Empire' family, Jussie Smollett, was viciously attacked last night," a representative of 20th Century Fox Television and Fox Entertainment said in a statement to CNN. "We send our love to Jussie, who is resilient and strong, and we will work with law enforcement to bring these perpetrators to justice. The entire studio, network and production stands united in the face of any despicable act of violence and hate -- and especially against one of our own."

A representative for GLAAD told CNN the organization has reached out Smollett to offer assistance and support.

"Jussie is a true champion for LGBTQ people and is beloved by the community and allies around the world," a GLAAD spokesperson said in a statement.

Anyone with information is asked to call Area Central Detectives at 312-747-8382
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JohnDoe said:
He's at least partway there, in that many unknown men have unloaded into him.
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Both managed by Bloods gang members.

Neighbors call bullshit. Bleach in hot sauce bottle?
February 11, 2019 | 5:02am | Updated February 11, 2019 | 10:34am

CHICAGO — Nearly two weeks after “Empire” star Jussie Smollett claimed he was the victim of a racist, homophobic attack, cops have yet to identify any suspects — and some people in his tony Chicago neighborhood are growing skeptical.

“I don’t believe it happened the way he said it did,” said Agin Muhammad, who lives in the same swank high-rise near the Navy Pier as Smollett.

“I’ve been in this neighborhood five years. I don’t believe it, not around here … Half the people are gay and the other half are black.”

A patron at Lizzie McNeill’s Irish Pub, about a block from the scene of the alleged Jan. 29 incident, said Smollett’s story “doesn’t really make sense.”

“It’s a lie, because Chicago is the most liberal city around,” said the man, who wouldn’t give his name. “They have cameras everywhere … Why can’t they find the attack?”

Cops have said they found plenty of surveillance video, but none that captured the incident.

Meanwhile, Chicago police said Sunday that Smollett has yet to turn over data from his cellphone to verify that he was on the phone with his music manager, Brandon Moore, when he was allegedly attacked.

Moore has said he heard Smollett’s assailants shout a “racial slur” and the words “MAGA country,” an apparent reference to President Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan.

“We have no reason to doubt the statements, but for a criminal investigation, we need to independently confirm the phone records,” Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said.

“We offered to take the phone to download the data and he expressed he couldn’t be without his phone for several hours.”

Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson has said that Smollett, 36, was being treated as a crime victim, but would be held accountable if cops learn he filed a false report.

Smollett told cops he was confronted by two men, one wearing a black mask, who hurled gay and racist epithets at him, calling him “’Empire’ f—-t n—-r” while he was walking home shortly before 2 a.m.

The assailants allegedly punched Smollett in the face, doused him with a liquid — believed to be bleach — and tied a rope around his neck in an underpass between the Sheraton and Loews Chicago hotels.

Last week, The Post traced Smollett’s likely route to the underpass from a 24-hour Subway sandwich shop where he bought a tuna sandwich and a salad.

Near the foot of a stairwell to the Loews, The Post found an empty hot sauce bottle that was partially filled with a clear liquid that smelled like bleach.

The Post alerted police, who seized the bottle. Guglielmi said it was turned over to the FBI for analysis.

The FBI declined to comment.
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High probability that hot sauce bottle was planted by Jussie, his agent, or the post.

How would the police have missed this? They have 10+ detectives on the case and the FBI.

Get the fuck outta here.
 
Saw this tweet from Saturday just posted on/r/drama:
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https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1094228453514203137
 
If it was a tactical leak and not just a checkmark bullshiting on twitter then that would be an indicator that the police department has gotten all the info it needs out of Smollett's 'cooperation' and don't care about burning that bridge. I hope Smollet brought some lube because as soon as Rahm's reelection is out of the way CPD is going to go in dry.
 
not william stenchever said:
If it was a tactical leak and not just a checkmark bullshiting on twitter then that would be an indicator that the police department has gotten all the info it needs out of Smollett's 'cooperation' and don't care about burning that bridge. I hope Smollet brought some lube because as soon as Rahm's reelection is out of the way CPD is going to go in dry.
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Optimistic, I know, but I hope he does jail time. What a sick way to foment hate for your political belifs.
 
Pargon said:
He's a reporter. To whom would you rather they leak the information they can't release without appearing as though they're taking an official stance?

This is literally the way these things have gone for decades.
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A few decades ago they'd have probably just laughed at faggots who had been beaten close to death. How things have been done for decades is not how it should be done now.

I'm pretty sure that most police workers will be governed by ethics regulations regarding leaking, if not by strict laws which offer harsh penalties. We shouldn't be seeing some idiot on twitter who is speculating that the police are treating him as a suspect, because if we're seeing it then you can pretty much guarantee that the faggot hoaxer is, and so are lots of the niggers who believe that the police are only out to fuck them over.

Lots of you think that he's going to face police action over this. I think that unless the police have irrefutable proof that he faked this attack then the police simply won't dare to do anything. I don't believe that they will be able to find something because there are too many variables. What if he was attacked by somebody, but because he was high on something or because he's just a pathetic faggot he completely messed up what happened in his head? Scott Adams has said on his podcasts that he was the victim of an armed robbery and he had a vivid picture of the person who pointed a gun at him. Adams said that when he saw video footage of the actual robbery he was amazed that the person he had in his mind as the robber was completely different. The memory of the robbery was mixed with some completely different memory. It's well known that eye witness testimony is almost completely useless, and I think victim testimony is even less reliable.

My guess is that this faggot is a typical hoax hater because I have seen dozens of these events over the last few years. But just the lame shit this dude came out with makes me think that maybe some neigbour or a hook up did something to him which was then blamed on Trump as a way for easy victim points.

If the police charged him as a hoaxer, but then someone came forward with proof that he was beaten in any way then the police are going to be hammered and race relations in the USA are going to get even worse. I think the police will just leave this as an unsolved crime even if they are almost certain he faked it. I'd even argue that it might be in the interests of the country if they didn't charge him even if they found proof he faked it all. Trayvon Martin and Black Lives Matter show that blacks aren't really bothered about proof. Just imagine how bad the media would jump on the police if Smollett was accused of being a hoaxer when he had actually taken a beating.
 
KerryDixon9 said:
A few decades ago they'd have probably just laughed at faggots who had been beaten close to death. How things have been done for decades is not how it should be done now.

I'm pretty sure that most police workers will be governed by ethics regulations regarding leaking, if not by strict laws which offer harsh penalties. We shouldn't be seeing some idiot on twitter who is speculating that the police are treating him as a suspect, because if we're seeing it then you can pretty much guarantee that the faggot hoaxer is, and so are lots of the niggers who believe that the police are only out to fuck them over.

Lots of you think that he's going to face police action over this. I think that unless the police have irrefutable proof that he faked this attack then the police simply won't dare to do anything. I don't believe that they will be able to find something because there are too many variables. What if he was attacked by somebody, but because he was high on something or because he's just a pathetic faggot he completely messed up what happened in his head? Scott Adams has said on his podcasts that he was the victim of an armed robbery and he had a vivid picture of the person who pointed a gun at him. Adams said that when he saw video footage of the actual robbery he was amazed that the person he had in his mind as the robber was completely different. The memory of the robbery was mixed with some completely different memory. It's well known that eye witness testimony is almost completely useless, and I think victim testimony is even less reliable.

My guess is that this faggot is a typical hoax hater because I have seen dozens of these events over the last few years. But just the lame shit this dude came out with makes me think that maybe some neigbour or a hook up did something to him which was then blamed on Trump as a way for easy victim points.

If the police charged him as a hoaxer, but then someone came forward with proof that he was beaten in any way then the police are going to be hammered and race relations in the USA are going to get even worse. I think the police will just leave this as an unsolved crime even if they are almost certain he faked it. I'd even argue that it might be in the interests of the country if they didn't charge him even if they found proof he faked it all. Trayvon Martin and Black Lives Matter show that blacks aren't really bothered about proof. Just imagine how bad the media would jump on the police if Smollett was accused of being a hoaxer when he had actually taken a beating.
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You're very irrationally angry over something that happens regularly, in many avenues, when entities want information released to the public without doing so directly. Leaks have always happened and always will happen and hollering that things shouldn't be such is screaming into the void.

Also assuming it's only low-level members of the CPD leaking is folly. It's just as likely to be someone much higher up or acting on orders from such.
 
Pargon said:
He's a reporter. To whom would you rather they leak the information they can't release without appearing as though they're taking an official stance?

This is literally the way these things have gone for decades.
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Seriously. Watch the last couple seasons of the wire if you need a pretty accurate fictional depiction of how that kind of thing goes.
 
So, like are we talking a little tabasco bottle or a bigger sriracha bottle? The public deserves to know.
 
Man of the Sea said:
WE GOT PHONE RECORDS

https://pagesix.com/2019/02/11/jussie-smollett-finally-turns-phone-records-over-to-cops/

https://www.thewrap.com/jussie-smollett-turns-over-limited-and-redacted-phone-records-police-say/
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“The police said they wanted the records so they could independently verify the two men’s accounts, which is needed for a criminal investigation, but Smollett told police he couldn’t be without his phone for several hours.”

I know if I was the victim of a hate crime and viscous attack the first thing I would be worried about is not having my phone for a few hours.
 
So if the bottle full of bleach was found near a stairwell, that could support Smollett having been attacked, but it also implies the attackers escaped into the building where Smollett was staying. Or, as others have said, he could have planted it there to support his story. Either way, none of this is as it appears. If his attackers fled into his building, that indicates premeditation and not a random attack from racist homophobes. It’s also still not clear why no one has mentioned Smollett’s clothes being ruined by bleach. At my old doctor’s office job, I splattered a few tiny drops of bleach on my shirt, and that was enough to ruin the whole thing.
 
queue-anon said:
So if the bottle full of bleach was found near a stairwell, that could support Smollett having been attacked, but it also implies the attackers escaped into the building where Smollett was staying. Or, as others have said, he could have planted it there to support his story. Either way, none of this is as it appears. If his attackers fled into his building, that indicates premeditation and not a random attack from racist homophobes. It’s also still not clear why no one has mentioned Smollett’s clothes being ruined by bleach. At my old doctor’s office job, I splattered a few tiny drops of bleach on my shirt, and that was enough to ruin the whole thing.
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I think nobody knows if it was bleach, the report just said "chemical" and everyone assumed bleach. Could be a coca cola for all we know. If I was going to attack someone why would I throw bleach at them? Why not acid?
 
KerryDixon9 said:
A few decades ago they'd have probably just laughed at faggots who had been beaten close to death. How things have been done for decades is not how it should be done now.

I'm pretty sure that most police workers will be governed by ethics regulations regarding leaking, if not by strict laws which offer harsh penalties. We shouldn't be seeing some idiot on twitter who is speculating that the police are treating him as a suspect, because if we're seeing it then you can pretty much guarantee that the faggot hoaxer is, and so are lots of the niggers who believe that the police are only out to fuck them over.

Lots of you think that he's going to face police action over this. I think that unless the police have irrefutable proof that he faked this attack then the police simply won't dare to do anything. I don't believe that they will be able to find something because there are too many variables. What if he was attacked by somebody, but because he was high on something or because he's just a pathetic faggot he completely messed up what happened in his head? Scott Adams has said on his podcasts that he was the victim of an armed robbery and he had a vivid picture of the person who pointed a gun at him. Adams said that when he saw video footage of the actual robbery he was amazed that the person he had in his mind as the robber was completely different. The memory of the robbery was mixed with some completely different memory. It's well known that eye witness testimony is almost completely useless, and I think victim testimony is even less reliable.

My guess is that this faggot is a typical hoax hater because I have seen dozens of these events over the last few years. But just the lame shit this dude came out with makes me think that maybe some neigbour or a hook up did something to him which was then blamed on Trump as a way for easy victim points.

If the police charged him as a hoaxer, but then someone came forward with proof that he was beaten in any way then the police are going to be hammered and race relations in the USA are going to get even worse. I think the police will just leave this as an unsolved crime even if they are almost certain he faked it. I'd even argue that it might be in the interests of the country if they didn't charge him even if they found proof he faked it all. Trayvon Martin and Black Lives Matter show that blacks aren't really bothered about proof. Just imagine how bad the media would jump on the police if Smollett was accused of being a hoaxer when he had actually taken a beating.
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You're probably right, but I'm really hating this faulty memory bullshit. That's a common reaction, but it's still a minority. Powerleveling, but I killed someone, still have PTSD many years later from it, was charged, went to court, and was scared shitless my memory was wrong because of exactly what you're asserting.

I drew pictures, drew the layout, wrote dozens of pages of my description of what happened. Between multiple (meaning between 4 and 12 people at any given moment at different phases of the event) and video footage, I had it exactly right. Not a single cop involved was even close. The judge even laughed at one cop for being so off base from what ten other people just described in the exact same way, and he testified to something that I'm almost certain was a completely different event, and one cop refused to testify, but the crown didn't push it, since it was clear the cop would have hurt their case.

You make small mistakes in memory, like "he grabbed my right arm" rather than left. Or "it lasted about thirty minutes" and it was seven. Or in my case, I completely forgot about spitting in someone's face, but when it came out at trial, I remembered it actually did happen. It took several people corroborating to assure myself I wasn't being suggestible, but I don't buy that people are THAT suggestible... especially having gone through it and still being bang on, despite severe PTSD from it all.

For sure that shit happens, where memories are completely recreated, but I don't buy that shit for a second as a default.

And that shit, when it's legitimate PTSD, that attitude of how malleable remembrance is, undermines the legitimacy. Blasey-Ford, for instance. She seemed credible on the surface, but I guarantee if you have the memory of only having one beer, you would remember where you were. Traumatic amnesia isn't retroactive. She was a fraud, clearly. Very clearly. A friend of mine is a therapist, and she said she had to stop watching that tstimony, because it was so obviously manufactured, and she sees a couple of people a week trying the same thing just to get on disability.

If Adams experienced that, it either wasn't at all traumatic, and his own self-aggrandizing narrative carried his awareness, or he is highly suggestible and manipulatible.

Anyhow. My shit had a media ban, and it was pre-Internet, so apologies if this is powerleveling, but I think it's not.
 
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