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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I don't think food imports will really be an issue. Yes, as pointed out by Macron in his recent town hall meeting, 70% if our supermarket supplies currently come from the EU, but that's exactly what you'd expect when you're in a political union that mandates that you buy food internally. Isn't this what's been keeping Africa poor for the last 30 years? The affluent market on their doorstep refuses to let them compete with their domestic farmers? I would imagine food exporters in the US, South America and Africa will be happy to sell us some food. Furthermore, isn't it better from a national security perspective to import food from a variety of sources, rather than having all our eggs literally in the EU basket?
 
Clem Fandango said:
I don't think food imports will really be an issue. Yes, as pointed out by Macron in his recent town hall meeting, 70% if our supermarket supplies currently come from the EU, but that's exactly what you'd expect when you're in a political union that mandates that you buy food internally. Isn't this what's been keeping Africa poor for the last 30 years? The affluent market on their doorstep refuses to let them compete with their domestic farmers? I would imagine food exporters in the US, South America and Africa will be happy to sell us some food. Furthermore, isn't it better from a national security perspective to import food from a variety of sources, rather than having all our eggs literally in the EU basket?
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Nigeria, Kenya and Ghana were all vying to rush to the front of the queue on trade deals precisely because agriculture would be on the ticket for us in any trade deal. MERCOSUR also expressed interest as they want to sell more stuff. 600 million hectares of arable land is available in Africa, or 60% of the global total, and it's currently being used hilariously inefficiently because its only being tasked to meet domestic needs.

Africa needs some sort of services and education super-state to step in and help educate and guide them...

Macron's also playing silly buggers as 77% of UK food needs are met domestically, meaning the rest of the EU forces us to buy things either at restricted rates (New Zealand and Australian Beef and Lamb) or has eye watering rates of tariffs on them (1500% for roasted coffee beans to protects jobs in Germany, 300% on cane sugar mostly protecting German and French Sugar Beet farmers...)

The whole EEC/EU as some bastion of Free Trade was accurate back in the 80s and early 90s but these days its a goddamn sham.
 
Fagatron said:
As for the food, Israel already sells the UK food far cheaper than the EU does, and it's EU legislation limiting how much can be bought from them at the moment that forces them to buy from Spain.
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England currently gets approximately 40% of its daily caloric intake from mainland Europe.

I suspect the amber waves of grain in Israel would be able to make up the difference.

But we will see i guess.
 
Abbot is playing the victim yet again (I bet it was a joke about her poor math skills):
The BBC have 'firmly rejected' claims Diane Abbott was treated unfairly before the filming of last night's edition of Question Time.

It follows claims circulating on Twitter that host Fiona Bruce and a floor manager made unspecified comments about Ms Abbott to the audience before the programme started filming.

The claims suggested Ms Bruce “made jokes” about Ms Abbott, that a floor manager “stoked up anti-Diane Abbott sentiment” and that there was “some humour at Diane’s expense from BBC staff before the recording.”

A BBC spokesperson said: "We firmly reject claims that any of the Question Time team treated any of the panel unfairly before and during the recording last night."
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/bbc-firmly-rejects-claims-diane-13874719#comments-section

About the vote of no confidence I'd kind of like to see what the policies of both main parties would be if Corbyn managed to win

If May stepped down Boris is favourite to be the next Conservative leader so assumedly he’d push for a Canada-like option and Labour would hopefully be forced to come up with a plan but I wouldn’t be suprised if Corbyn remained evasive since Labour are probally even more divided than the Tories.

Also the only compromise I can think of (That still wouldn’t be popular) is get rid of the ‘worst case’ scenario for each side, meaning No Deal and Remain and have a public referendum that includes May’s deal, a soft Brexit option (A Norway style option) and a harder Brexit option (A Canada style option). (Using a preferential voting system)

The referendum would likely be more controversial than the last and it’d require an extension to article 50 and more negotiations to clarify each option so it’d be a clown show all around.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-89514/Most-British-women-unmarried.html

For the first time in recorded history, more than half of British women over the age of 16 are unmarried.

As marriage continues to decline in popularity, increasing numbers of men and women in their twenties and thirties are choosing to live alone, according to Government figures released yesterday.

Many of the unmarried women are single mothers, with more than a quarter of families now led by a single parent.

Married women make up less than 50 per cent of the female population - leaving a majority single, divorced or widowed. And more than one in ten of the age-group who would at one time have been forming families are now living by themselves, according to the findings of the General Household Survey.

Just 54 per cent of men over the age of 16 are married. Around 12 per cent of men and women between the ages of 25 and 44 live alone - more than twice as many as in the late 1980s and six times as many as in the early Seventies.

Many women are choosing their careers above marriage and families. Others are casualties of the trend towards cohabitation in which, statistically, relationships are more likely to break down.

For the first time in years, the number of single fathers has also risen. They now make up just under one in 30 of single parents.

The survey, which is carried out regularly, is aimed at discovering facts about the way we live that are not revealed through traditional records and censuses.

It involved 19,000 people being interviewed in 8,500 homes last year by the Office for National Statistics. The findings also reinforce current concerns highlighted by the Government's Chief Medical Officer about heavy drinking among women.

But the most startling figures are those which demonstrate the breakdown of the traditional family, an occurrence often linked with poverty, difficulties for children and social breakdown.

The decline in the proportion of married women has been astonishing. In the late Seventies, almost three-quarters of all adult women were married. By 1985, that figure had fallen to just over two-thirds.

Ten years ago, 61 per cent of women were married. By 1996, the figure had dropped to 57 per cent and two years later it stood at 53 per cent.

Nearly one in ten of all men and women are currently living together in unmarried relationships. More than a quarter of women in their 20s are cohabiting.

The continuing erosion of the twoparent family means that nearly a third of all homes - 32 per cent - are now occupied by just one adult.

While the number of older people living alone has actually fallen, with fewer than half the over-75s now occupying single households, the big rise in singles is among young adults.

The survey showed that the average home now contains 2.3 adults, compared to 2.91 in the early Seventies.

Only one home in five is occupied by a couple with children, compared with 31 per cent in 1979 and 25 per cent in 1991. Single parent households make up seven per cent of all homes - a level that has remained steady since 1993.

Couples now head just under three-quarters of all families.

Other key findings included a rise in binge drinking among women, especially younger ones.

Nearly a quarter of women had drunk more than three units of alcohol on a single day in the week before the survey was carried out.

The consumption of alcohol among women between the ages of 16 and 24 went up from an average of 11 units a week to 12.6 units between 1998 and 2000.

Middle class women are heavier drinkers, with 24 per cent drinking more than the Government's recommended levels compared to 21 per cent in ' manual households'.

The survey also revealed a boom in home entertainment and Internet use over the past two years, despite the onset of economic uncertainty.

Some 45 per cent of homes now have computers, while only 34 per cent owned them in 1998. And 40 per cent of homes contained satellite, cable or digital television last year, compared with just 29 per cent in 1998.

The survey also found more people taking out company or private pensions. Two-thirds of full-time workers now have them.
 
JustStopDude said:
England currently gets approximately 40% of its daily caloric intake from mainland Europe.

I suspect the amber waves of grain in Israel would be able to make up the difference.

But we will see i guess.
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You assume that "crashing out without a deal" will mean the end of all imports from Europe. This is false. The tariffs that are put on food imports would be set by the British government, so if they are wise they will tariff-free such items and reduce checks to a skeleton pending the setup of other trade deals. The same with medications. Under WTO pharmaceuticals are all tariff free anyhow; they just need to have someone in the EU physically sign them off for type approval. Pharma businesses have already put this in place.

Also, because of the EU we have to put up with their cretinous, short-sighted, backwards views on GMOs and biotech. There's going to be 10 billion people on earth by 2050. How the shuddering fuck else are we going to feed them all?
 
It's precisely because Abbot was treated fairly and made to clarify and back up some of her usual outrageous statements that she's now wobbling violently and claiming waycism. Abbot's famous for playing the race card and the fact she had rings run round her in Derby shows the real thoughts of the country on her.

It's shocking that Fiona Bruce coming in has resulted in the quality of the program going up significantly as she's giving actual, even time and not constantly interrupting the (usually right wing) panelist to answer whatever slander some leftie's made in a statement.

Also, the Policy in Labour is either some sort of customs union and single market membership of the EU (which the EU has ruled out repeatedly) which results in the UK being able to set fuck all in trade policy. Or going all out to ensure Corbyn can go on his nationalisation spree which is currently banned under the EU's laws on state aid. (Though in some details, his railway policy isn't as dumb as first thought, letting the current contracts lapse instead of just passing laws and going 'lol this is ours now').

It all depends on who's saying what and what day of the week it is. Corbyn himself is likely saying "take no deal off the table" under duress, and Keir Starmer is saying they'd go for the softest and fluffiest of Brexits possible keeping us tied to the rotting bloc.

Barry Gardinier however, ruled it out in another interview.

Basically Labour's position is creatively ambiguous and it's letting them hold out in their core territories which voted hard Leave as there's currently no new party to suck up votes for them.

Meanwhile, "lol someone's getting desperate" as a hasty letter has been signed and sent out now with WA's been voted down:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...arrenbauer-Theresa-May-Angela-Merkel-leave-EU

Why would that be? It's not like we're banning German citizens from visiting, so they can still come for an ale and to drive on the left as well as go to the Panto.

But they are going to stop having our cash every year to pay for their shit.
 
2018 - More than half of British women over the age of 16 are unmarried

2028 - More than half of British women under the age of 16 are being groomed

2038 - More than half of British women under the age of 16 are married
 
Commander Keen said:
The shit is a “unit” of alcohol? The shit is a “government recommended level” of alcohol?
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some made up Number. its half a bottle of weak beer and the recommended level is 14 units.
i have an intake of about 35 units(2 normal beer a day on average) and i dont drink much.
 
Pickle Inspector said:
Abbot is playing the victim yet again (I bet it was a joke about her poor math skills):

If May stepped down Boris is favourite to be the next Conservative leader so assumedly he’d push for a Canada-like option and Labour would hopefully be forced to come up with a plan but I wouldn’t be suprised if Corbyn remained evasive since Labour are probally even more divided than the Tories.
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Boris is favoured amongst voting members. He is despised amongst MPs and cabinet members, so of course, they will do anything they can to ensure he doesn't get in. Look at the initial decision to put May in as PM. Boris was favourite until Gove knifed him in the back and stood for PM. I am certain that if it came down to it again, they would ensure that he never gets in.
 
Slimy Time said:
Boris is favoured amongst voting members. He is despised amongst MPs and cabinet members, so of course, they will do anything they can to ensure he doesn't get in. Look at the initial decision to put May in as PM. Boris was favourite until Gove knifed him in the back and stood for PM. I am certain that if it came down to it again, they would ensure that he never gets in.
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Then they deserve their fate.
 
It's not going to course correct itself until four things happen.

a) Social stigma of being an unwed mother or divorcee through an affair returns as the norm in society

b) Men and especially women, start to change the views on the function of the society, so that is more geared towards rewarding healthy relationships, marriages, and children, instead of the current corporate, anti-traditionalist, anti-natal, feminist, marxist culture, that is causing people to not want to get married, and not want to have children.

c) It becomes financially viable once again to actually get married, have a home, and support a family through one family member.

d) 30 is no longer considered to be the age for settling down and finding someone. This has been elongated because of educational requirements, in addition to careers, as well as an infantilization of young adults, resulting in most people being this median age before they seriously consider settling into a relationship.

BlueArmedDevil said:
Well when the standard is @LagoonaBlue.......
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Thankfully not. Best thing that she can do is become a spinster, and weed it out of the gene pool.

Urban Superstition said:
Pretty islamic of them to start measuring married women from age 16.
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Pretty working class English to get pregnant at the age of 16, so you can be given a council flat to live on tax payers dime.
 
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