Joshua Wise & Stephen Boyd Cryzel Torture

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Mariposa Electrique said:
I wish Chris had been trolled by non-autistics, it would have made finding justice much easier.
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Case is easy to prove in a courtroom, it's just getting it past the door that's proving to be a challenge, and I have a vague feeling there could be a breakthrough now that YouTube peeps are talking about it.
 
@Null

Thanks for giving us a look at exactly what's been going on here. This entire log shows how bad off Chris' mental state is.

From a psychiatric perspective, it's pretty bad. It's not quite schizophrenia, but it's getting goddamn close. He's literally believing that he can talk to creatures he imagined up.

It's extremely troubling that he not only thinks they're real, but that he's SO convinced that they're real that he will readily humiliate himself, give money, and even hurt himself for them.

I've seen people go down this road before and it's NEVER a happy ending...
 
Every time I see these shitheads do something, it reminds me of the end of the dankula stream where Chris said something like "just be nice to each other".

I thought it was Chris just being humble but seeing all this shit gives a whole different perspective.
 
captn_kettle said:
Every time I see these shitheads do something, it reminds me of the end of the dankula stream where Chris said something like "just be nice to each other".

I thought it was Chris just being humble but seeing all this shit gives a whole different perspective.
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He only says things like that when other people are mean to him. How "nice" has he been to Snyder, a man who has forgiven him for driving a car into him, for most of his life?
 
Cuntster said:
So is this the fallout from Chris’s interactions with Idea Guy? I’m really not connecting the dots for how Chris came to have such a drastic break from reality, it seems weird that this could happen gradually even for Chris or is there some catalyzing event that happened that I’m missing out on?
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Chris always wanted to believe in an alternative reality. But he's been skeptical of any specific people claiming to be his imaginary friends, for obvious reasons. Idea Guy brought some convincing evidence to him in the form of photoshops and Chris fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

The thing is, Chris is easy to dazzle with sciency words or lawyer words or pretty much anything from a position of authority. He easily falls for the "my dad works for nintendo" type stuff.

So Chris might be shown a photoshop of a tank rolling into cwcville, and he'll really try to examine it to look for faults. But if he notices a fault, and calls it out, you say "nah, that's just a lens effect from the heat from the cannon", and he's not smart enough to parry that.
Subconcious Offense said:
He only says things like that when other people are mean to him. How "nice" has he been to Snyder, a man who has forgiven him for driving a car into him, for most of his life?
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Heh, to this day, Chris literally doesn't believe that happened.
Medley said:
Chris has been an asshole to plenty of people. I don't understand why people are bending over backwards for such a greedy undeserving man child.
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Watch out that you don't give yourself a stroke with all that salt.
 
Null said:
He is utterly convinced. I can't approach the topic with him at all. The first thing he asked me when we started talking was if I believed in the alternate dimensions and I said no. He got very mad, started describing his adventures, and I had to walk it back by saying "I can only speak on experience".
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While I'm no means an expert, via experience, I may be able to give some insight here.

I've studied Chris a long time, and I've worked with Autistic kids for roughly the same length of time. Back when I was still working for the school district, we had a lot of work with severely Autistic kids - ones who came from broken homes, or ones that had severe neurological issues. Many of these kids were trying their damnedest to learn, and to make something of themselves, despite the mother of all shit hands they'd been saddled with.

In Chris's case, he's basically always maintained this belief that anything "official" written about CWCVille or Sonichu can concievably become so ipso facto by the power of lore. You can see traces of this in the early days of Chris trolling, when newcomers would be added to the comics only to depart just as quickly, Chris' need to correct people in the mailbag, and so on. As time went on, and Chris gained experience, he gained a sort of emotional callous over his setting and refused to allow edits to canon by anyone but the Great Director Chandler himself and those he specifically deemed worthy. You can thank the Evan saga for a lot of this, since Chris suffered some real hardship in killing off Simonla, to the point where it gave him an IRL crisis.

While all of the above was cruel, you can make a credible argument that it formed a mandatory protective ward over the whole of Chris' setting. In and of itself, this should have been enough to deter casual predators like Boyd and Wise. Chris had suffered previously for letting barbarians past the gate before, so conventional wisdom was that he wasn't going to make that mistake again, and all evidence, for a time, was that he wasn't.

What none of us counted on was how Barb would make him especially vulnerable to predators like these.

Once Boyd and Wise found a way past Chris' emotional defense grid, Chris had no further defenses for his setting. Once they said they agreed with Chris' theory about cartoon characters and alternate dimensions, they found ways to exploit that fucking ruthlessly, as you can read for yourself in that fucking horror show of a log collection. Chris' isolation made him impressionable, and his naivete and ease of manipulation made him an easy one to control. These characters are real to Chris, because each, in their own way, are reflective of aspects of Chris himself. Once inside Chris' bubble, they fucking worked their damnedest to destroy him, and their willingness to use Chris' own psychological quirks and naivete made it disturbingly easy for Chris to believe something completely batshit. Chris was willing to do anything to save his setting because it's all he had to take joy or comfort in, and they were intent on taking that and perverting it until he could no longer.

Like I said in the previous thread, smarter, better people fall for dumber scams than Chris' all the time. The only difference between Boyd and Wise and those is that these two degenerates decided to prey on someone solely to make him suffer, and did so solely for their own amusement, knowing full well that they were doing something that even many of Chris' A-Logs would find fucking abhorrent.
 
18/04/20 23:40:40 <Christine> Anyway, Jesus, I am really not sure. And until a few months ago, I had not even heard of Wild Sonichu’s meth lab. If I had to guess, I’d say it probably stemmed from my ADD and my other past non-drug addictions.
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"Wild Sonichu's Meth Lab".
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I planned to pin all awful comments I came up while reading this, but this is so cringe I gave up after the man tits.
I would be forced to pretty much copy paste the whole OP.
 
I hope this isn’t optimistic and already said, but I really wonder if they’re cannibalizing each other right now. They’ve been doxed, reported to the authorities, and now this. A damning log of them fucking with an autistic person for nine hours. It’d be nearly impossible to screw them any further.
 
Subconcious Offense said:
He only says things like that when other people are mean to him. How "nice" has he been to Snyder for most of his life?
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You do realize that Trolls fanned the flames between them over the years, no? The JEW video happened because "Jackie" advised him to have a man-to-man talk with Snyder while recording it: https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Jackie_E-mails#Jackie_urges_Chris_to_record_the_Game_Place_audio
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.. I'm glad you're going to the store tomorrow! Hey, like I said, when you go to the Game Place, make SURE you bring your camera and record it, it's very important you have a record of the whole thing so they can't lie later about you. I can't wait to hear the results! Oh, and about the date, since I'll be coming home to Charlottesville, I was thinking you could pick a place that you like, maybe. What kind of places do you like to go?
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If Chris was talking to an actual friend, that friend will probably tell Chris to find a new vidya shop to hang out at. There's also speculation that this call (and maybe more unreleased/un-captured communications, who knows?) further contributed to the enmity between the Chandlers and Snyder.

I find those moments funny too, but IMO, it's beyond misguided to take nearly decade-old events, out of context, mind you, and then weave an imaginary persona around it while clinging to it so insistently.
 
Null said:
First lines in the chatlog:

18/04/08 20:34:59 <Christine> Ha. I was not expecting to be here.
18/04/08 20:35:43 <Christine> I’m drawing right now. Is there anything else to talk about now?
18/04/08 20:35:52 <Gwen> You owe me twenty thousand dollars.

I think it was just money. From the start. That's the first thing they say to him.
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Twenty thousand dollars for what though??? I still can't believe Chris fell for this shit. I mean, yeah he's fucking gullible, but he should know better, I mean, he wised up to the trolls after Bob died and ended up avoiding the internet and YouTube for years prior to coming out of the closet. I vote group home as well, or at least he's going to have to move in or have someone move in with him to make sure this shit never happens again.
 
Visitor said:
I'm just glad Chris is no longer neck-deep in this fucking bullshit, spending 9 hours of your day negotiating with some sick little weeaboo blackmailing you can't be good for your health.
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Nine hours? It was probably more. Chris told me the abuse was also outside of Discord, i.e. on the phone, etc.
 
Jaimas said:
Like I said in the previous thread, smarter, better people fall for dumber scams than Chris' all the time. The only difference between Boyd and Wise and those is that these two degenerates decided to prey on someone solely to make him suffer, and did so solely for their own amusement, knowing full well that they were doing something that even many of Chris' A-Logs would find fucking abhorrent.
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A fair bunch of other trolls did it for amusement to watch him suffer, too, or at least be pissed off and embarrassed. What makes this different is they did it to steal his money, too. Also they were painfully unfunny and at least as autistic as Chris himself.
 
"...Enough, no more. Tis not so sweet now as twas before..." Shakespeare, Twelfth Night

Perhaps it's time to put an end to the Chris-chan story. Maybe it's time Chris was removed from that hoarded house he's forced to live in because Greene County schoolboard prevented it being sold. Remember?
Maybe It's time Barb was taken out of that troublesome environment where trolls can coerce her son to hit her> Or worse. You may think Barb is the exception to the principle of "elder abuse is never right" but if you endorse elder abuse for any reason whatsoever, you can fuck right off and die.
 
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