Law Backpage has been seized

https://archive.is/wReed

We have just lost cabin pressure.

Backpage was seized because the Communications Decency Act was amended to allow LEO to pierce the veil and come after hosts and services when users had broken the law. This may seem trivial, but the CDA's safe harbor provisions is what enables every site that exists and allows user-generated content to be self-published.

4chan? At risk. 8chan? At risk.
Encyclopedia Dramatica? At risk. Kiwi Farms? At risk. Every other web forum? At risk.
Facebook, Google Plus, YouTube, Twitter, Gab? At risk.

If the CDA continues down this path we will see our largest export (culture and technology) be swiftly transplanted to other countries with safe harbor provisions.

 

[OB 946]

How will Chris ever get china now?

This will all end up being counterproductive to their stated purpose. Backpage at least offered a degree of cooperation with local police when there were actual cases of trafficking or child prostitution under investigation. It will be replaced (probably within weeks) by a new site based out of Moldova or on a Tor hidden site that will offer no cooperation and be beyond their reach. Hong Kong tried this years ago and the ad sites all just "loled" and cropped up two weeks later on offshore servers.

You are now aware that the US government owns Tor. For obvious reasons I can't elaborate, but if you have a website and they want to get to you, they'll get to you. It's pretty impressive actually, how far the tendrils go.

 

[Goofy Logic]

I was wondering what would happen to Backpage when FOSTA gets ratified.

Now I wonder how online dating sites will react to FOSTA. Backpage and Craigslist were effectively unmoderated, so does that mean sites like OkCupid and Plenty of Fish need to hire more moderating staff to filter out dick pics?

 

[OB 946]

If I was a cop who was transferred to the child porn unit, I'd probably ask for a transfer out within a week before I killed myself for losing all faith in the human race.

Anyone left behind is either a sociopath, or it's their version of working for Playboy. Maybe both.

It's full of newbies. Essentially a weed out program. "Oh you wanna be a big bad investigator huh? Well go investigate child sex rings for 6 months." You'll have a 6 month turnover rate of over 40%, whoever is left gets transferred to units that aren't shit and those slots are filled by new guys. Some people legitimately believe in the assignment and will volunteer to stay on. That is, however, exceedingly rare.

 

[FemalePresident]

So the cyber police is real?

You know how this goes. It starts with the intention to crack down CP and human trafficking networks but then they will use it to target anyone.

 

[A Cat Father]

Oh no, how will MessyJessie stay off the mean streets of Portland now?

 

[Beardfish]

If they're shutting down websites for obscene material, can someone email them about DeviantART and Fur Affinity?

Which proves that there is always a silver lining. No truce with furries.

 

[Arctic]

Backpage was seized because the Communications Decency Act was amended to allow LEO to pierce the veil and come after hosts and services when users had broken the law. This may seem trivial, but the CDA's safe harbor provisions is what enables every site that exists and allows user-generated content to be self-published.

4chan? At risk. 8chan? At risk.
Encyclopedia Dramatica? At risk. Kiwi Farms? At risk. Every other web forum? At risk.
Facebook, Google Plus, YouTube, Twitter, Gab? At risk.

Isn't this exactly what SOPA was supposed to do? HOW DO I WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE?

Spoiler

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

I do enjoy seeing many of the "gun laws don't work" people supporting this, as if criminals won't obey stricter gun laws (they won't obviously), but will throw up their hands and go "oh well" in regard to losing out on multiple millions of dollars to be gained from sex trafficking.
I mean, SJWs should be upset at this law because it oppresses speshul snowflake turbo-queer sex workers of color whatever.
Right wingers should be able to see the cognitive dissonance in believing that stricter laws will deter criminals while shouting about how stricter laws won't deter criminals.
And the worst part of this, as many have pointed out, is this will do very little to affect sex trafficking, the smugglers and pimps will just use different means to peddle their "wares".
The Craigslist thing is a little bit different in the sense that apparently the owners didn't even pretend to try to stop their users from doing this kind of shit, but if good-faith efforts to attempt to prevent illegal activity from occurring on your website aren't enough, then this will have a severely chilling effect on free speech on the web,

EDIT: Said "Craigslist", meant "Backpage"

 

[billydero]

Which proves that there is always a silver lining. No truce with furries.

As of 3/24 furry dating/hookup site pounced.org is down, with the site owner admitting its due to FOSTA. So one down, at least!

The article I read cited the site owner as being someone called Kelar and that they are seeking legal counsel about this. I suspect the first bit of advice the attorney will give is “don’t identify as a furry and don’t use that stupid ass screen name in any testimony or deposition.”

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

On the flip side, now we can't peruse their ads for lulzy content
I'm not sure I had even heard of that site before tbh

EDIT: Oh no wait I think that Connor Goodwolf thread had a link to his pounced ad or something

EDIT EDIT: I am referring to pounced, obviously

 

[Monotony]

we had internt 2.0 at one point and it was called america online

and we just let it die

 

[Echo_Ender]

I think Facebook is in trouble because the wrong people got the data and used it to help the wrong person win the election.

Nah. They're in trouble because, despite the democrats, Clinton Foundation, and various related groups paid them a ton of money to "Guarantee a victory" for Hillary...

And they not only didn't deliver, they had the gall to actually let her opponents buy some ad space. That can't go unpunished. It was HER TURN, remember?

 

[Zarkov]

Well, guess I'll never get to meet Mia Hamm now

 

[Fareal]

Sorry if this is a bit late, but it might help.

This article has a helpful explanation of what FOSTA actually does in relation to s230 CDA.

(The legal policy stuff at the end of the article won't be to everyone's taste, but the explanation of the mechanics of FOSTA is neutral enough.)

https://lawfareblog.com/fosta-new-a...-may-not-end-internet-its-not-good-law-either

The issue being raised is whether FOSTA represents a willingness to legislatively chip back at s230 which could be used more and more as a chilling effect on content hosts to 'encourage' them to aggressively moderate whatever types of content future legislation would go after.

(Note that the DMCA already drove a coach and horses through s230; FOSTA is not the first crack in the wall)

FOSTA could well be the canary in the mine for legislators to take a sledgehammer to s230 protections generally, but the wording of the bill doesn't do that itself yet. The reach of the bill is pretty confined to sex-for-money stuff.

Sorry if this is late. Not putting a view myself on either side of the debate, but thoght this might be informative to the discussion as although this has been in the works for a while, a lot of folks haven't been following the bill's progress so this is fresh news to them.

 

[Male Idiot]

Could the US enforce this on countries that are not their bootlickers? Just asking in case Kiwifarms needs to go to be hosted in mighty Uganda.

Because lets be honest folks, the Bent Duck is the epitome of Obscene content!

 

[Stock Photo James]

Best case scenario: the big Web companies like Faceborg or Twitter lobby the law out of existence.

Worst case scenario: the big Web companies use bribes or maybe collected data blackmail to prevent the law from affecting them but secretly support its existence to make it harder for less influential competitors.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Oh this is fucking stupid. Why are we allowing stupid people to make decisions on issues that they have no idea what the consequences are?

I thought we were past Ted Stevens and his "series of tubes" argument.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

I mean, Null could be running a prostitution ring out of KF, the finest autistic honeys this side of Reddit.

Welp. It's only a matter of time until Vordrak starts spreading rumors that we're running a child prostitution ring.

 

[Ruin]

Oh this is fucking stupid. Why are we allowing stupid people to make decisions on issues that they have no idea what the consequences are?

I thought we were past Ted Stevens and his "series of tubes" argument.

Congress is mostly boomers of course they don't understand the internet. Another fun consequence of this is they keep trying to fight every war as though it's the cold war which is why we haven't won since then.

The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 114th Congress was 57.0 years; of Senators, 61.0 years.

 

[Pikimon]

On the flip side, now we can't peruse their ads for lulzy content

yes thats why you perused backpage