DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[EddyB43]

Edit: @EddyB43 , can you confirm if an ultimateoutcast00 actually cheered 500 bits earlier today (3/12)?

I can confirm no cheer from this ultimateoutcast00 user during March. My chat logs show the same singular message that OverRustleLogs tracks, so this looks like a Twitch glitch with the new bits leader system.
[11:55:13] <ultimateoutcast00> ***

Yeah, things are looking rough. The subs took another net tumble downward last night:
Unique cheerers: 189
Total cheers: 2745
Final bit total is: $ 915.34
Average cheer: $ 0.33
Subs: 134 (131@$4.99, 2@$9.99, 1@$24.99, 14 gifted, 60.45% resubs)
Final sub total is: $ 345.00
Total Subs (via Nightbot): 428
Unique tippers: 0
Final tip total is: $ 0.00
Live pet total is: $ 0.00
Total money is: $ 1260.34

85 gifted subs when the subs were, I think, half-price.

I can confirm this subs drop... and even better, DSP started Bully off at 428 subs. It peaked at 435 during CoDWWII, then dropped to 431 when DSP finally bothered to update the income spam on the screen, and after the stream it has dropped to 428 again. This was with FOURTEEN shared sub notifications, 12 of which were resubs, and the 2 new ones were both Prime subs... in fact FdoubleU3 is a lapsed sub, I last saw him resubbing for his 10th month back in December 2017. 2 gifted subs, both are resubs according to the "msg-param-months" parameter I also see in the resub messages.

Spoiler: Gifted subs partial raw messages

[20:43:33] * infinite_55 gifted a Tier 1 sub to DrloveRocket! [mod=1;[B]msg-id=subgift;msg-param-months=2[/B]...
[21:10:53] * Be_My_Eyes gifted a Tier 1 sub to TheVietnameseComrade! [mod=0;[B]msg-id=subgift;msg-param-months=3[/B]...

Tips I've only tracked ~$386.67 but with a big proviso: Two streams now in March DSP has messed up the popup notifications - for half of the Heavy Rain 'premiere' stream & all of last night's CoDWWII stream - so nothing showed up. I was told that DSP shouted out a $49.37 tip in Heavy Rain, and last night's CoDWWII income spam was updated for a $5 & later $10 tip - that's $64.37 already I won't count as I don't trust DSP's shoutouts - at least I can somewhat trust visible popup notifications.

For comparison, here's my tracked values for tips only through the 12th of each month:
September: ~$1478.56
October: ~$198
November: ~$837.69
December: ~$546.14
January: ~$673.99
February: ~$891.91
March: ~$386.67

November being the one month tracked by Nightbot & should be accurate, end of January DSP raised the popup notification tip limit to $5 plus for February onwards I'm ignoring all shoutout tips - no popup notification, I don't count it. So only February & March are really comparable... and March is clearly doing terribly. At best if you add in those $64+ in should've been visible tips & a whole bunch of sub$5 tips I'd put that around December's level.

Spoiler: Last week of my income summaries, most streams doing poorly.

20180306 Day Off:
Twitch income total: Subs ~$2.50 & cheers ~$1 & tips ~$0 = ~$3.50
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$184.50 & cheers ~$455.13 & tips ~$215.01 = ~$854.64

20180307-01 Heavy Rain PS4 1st:
2x~$30 cheers from 2 regulars for $60.01, >65% cheering.
At least $49.37 tip but no visible notifications for first ~3 hours of stream, ignored.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$35 & cheers ~$91.61 & tips ~$5 = ~$131.61
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$219.50 & cheers ~$546.74 & tips ~$220.01 = ~$986.25
20180307-02 Secret of Mana PS4 6th:
$5 cheerleader from infinite_55, plus $3 in extras, >35% cheering.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$10 & cheers ~$20.35 & tips ~$0 = ~$30.35
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$229.50 & cheers ~$567.09 & tips ~$220.01 = ~$1016.60

20180308-01 Heavy Rain PS4 2nd:
Twitch income total: Subs ~$20 & cheers ~$35.31 & tips ~$5 = ~$60.31
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$249.50 & cheers ~$602.40 & tips ~$225.01 = ~$1076.91
20180308-02 Doki Doki Literature Club Finale:
$12.34 cheerleader from Extracheez, >40% cheering.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$2.50 & cheers ~$29.34 & tips ~$10 = ~$41.84
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$252 & cheers ~$631.74 & tips ~$235.01 = ~$1118.75

20180309-01 Heavy Rain PS4 3rd Finale+Bully Anniversary 1st:
$2.50 cheerleader, only 42 cheers during stream & 45 for these 14 hours.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$10 & cheers ~$23.67 & tips ~$5 = ~$38.67
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$262 & cheers ~$655.41 & tips ~$240.01 = ~$1157.42
20180309-02 Secret of Mana PS4 7th Ragequit:
$10+$5 in extras cheered by infinite_55, $5+$1.10+29(!)x$0.50 cheered by Markmccauley.
$15+$20.60 cheered by infinite_55 & Markmccauley = $35.60, >60% cheering.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$7.50 & cheers ~$56.86 & tips ~$6.66 = ~$71.02
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$269.50 & cheers ~$712.27 & tips ~$246.67 = ~$1228.44

20180310-01 CoDWWII 16th (Saucy Saturday):
New mods infinite_55 & MrSwagginz cheered $12+$6 total respectively, >45% cheering.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$17.50 & cheers ~$39.15 & tips ~$15 = ~$71.65
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$287 & cheers ~$751.42 & tips ~$261.67 = ~$1300.09
20180310-02 PUBG 36th:
$20+$10 cheers from infinite_55 & $20 cheer from Markmccauley, >60% cheering.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$5 & cheers ~$83.25 & tips ~$60 = ~$148.25
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$292 & cheers ~$834.67 & tips ~$321.67 = ~$1448.34

20180311-01 Bully Anniversary 2nd:
$5 cheerleader from infinite_55 + $7 extras, >35% cheering. $50+$5 tips.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$27.50 & cheers ~$30.90 & tips ~$55 = ~$113.40
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$319.50 & cheers ~$865.57 & tips ~$376.67 = ~$1561.74

20180312-01 Bully Anniversary 3rd:
$10 pity cheer at end of stream, >30% cheering. Single $10 visible tip.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$10 & cheers ~$32.54 & tips ~$10 = ~$52.54
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$329.50 & cheers ~$898.11 & tips ~$386.67 = ~$1614.28
20180312-02 CoDWWII 17th:
30 cheers vs. 34/35 for Bully, $4 cheerleader + $2 extras by infinite_55, >40% cheering.
Notifications disabled, income spam claimed $5 & $10 top tips but I can't count them.
Twitch income total: Subs ~$25 & cheers ~$14.48 & tips ~$0 = ~$39.48
Twitch income total to this point: Subs ~$354.50 & cheers ~$912.59 & tips ~$386.67 = ~$1653.76

 

[BrunoMattei]

The issue is that Phil will never be a full time fighter channel as he called those type of channels one trick pony shows that have no Kwuality Kahntent. Thus, if he made a fighter only channel then that would mean he is a one trick pony with terrible Kwuality Kahntent, and we all know he puts out Kwuality Kahntent always.

He did actually make a Fighter only channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/DSPStreetFighter

@Bryan Dunn The difference between someone like I'mStillDaddy and LTG and Phil is that I'mStill is actually good. The guy does go to tournaments and does well. Usually he makes top 8 in Euro tournaments.

The other big difference is that he actually engages with his stream and his whole shtick might be an act.

Being salty is nothing really new for top players. Chris G is infamous for going on rants and calling his opponents scrubs and shit.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

The issue is that Phil will never be a full time fighter channel as he called those type of channels one trick pony shows that have no Kwuality Kahntent. Thus, if he made a fighter only channel then that would mean he is a one trick pony with terrible Kwuality Kahntent, and we all know he puts out Kwuality Kahntent always.

Also the fact that if he did that then he couldnt use the "lag" issue too much because people would question why every game he plays lags, oh wait he already does that. Oh, I know now, it is because making a fighter channel would mean to put effort in games, like training or understanding how that fighting game works but Phil will never put that much effort. Instead, he can play games once, play horribly in it and say "the developers made a terrible game, well I am not going back to that shit. *SNORT*"

Honestly, Phil rather be a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, as a genre specific channel would mean he would have to get good and put effort in his channel.
But if Phil did make more fighting game streams and maybe make them a weekly thing, he probably bring in more people. I know the only time I go to his streams is when he is playing a fighting game because he is sooooooooooooo salty.

As accurate as this is. All DSP has to do is make an announcement where all his content will focus on a certain fighting game and getting good at it in order to compete. The amount of viewers he will gain just from this is much larger and those viewers will donate and stay due to the fact that DSP is so shit and salty. Its pure entertainment for FGC viewers alone. Just like LTG is. Though, DSPs narcissism and inability to understand what HE is doing wrong will stop him from making it out of Silver in SFV. Though, he will garnish the money and views he so desperately needs atm to continue his "business".

 

[User 20984]

LastRambo is genuinely an exceptional individual. Bit off topic (and something I mentioned once before), but I actually came across him on several Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite videos on Youtube. Dude was sucking the developers off something fierce, defending the game's blatant flaws as if they made the game better, and REEing at everyone that pointed out how weak the game was looking. I'm pretty certain it was the same guy, because they had the same exact name and the same picture of Thor from Marvel 3 as their profile image, and was acting in a similarly exceptional manner.

Basically, if he likes something, and you don't, you're a hater and wrong because reasons. And he'll white-knight it to the bitter end. It explains why he fits into the DSP cult so well.

DSPS forum is a breeding ground for ANTIFA..

 

[Dragoonism]

Oh nononono calling @Dragoonism looks like lazarus is about to have competition

Doubt it, BSV is still active on the KoH forum and BSV isnt ripped enough to be a close fan of LTG, though LTG is easy to get close to somewhat if you simply buy a shirt!

Give him enough money and you will have a seat at his "roundtable" where his closest people sit aka his biggest ass kissers and cash cows.

 

[Clop]

No most definitely not. I was genuinely interested in what he meant with false sabotage. I have never heard the term before. As you all should know my twich account was terminated. And it, well... changed my attitude. At first I had no idea how or what had happened but I think I finally have the answer. It's completely unrelated to low tier god. And I cannot prove this 100% But it is the most logical scenario, and I am still a bit in disbelief about it. Because it have shaken my belief about a person I though was someone else. Who i sacrificed a lot to help because I genuinely felt he was being treated unfairly. If you find anything wrong with my logic please tell me because I would like this not to be true.

First of all, I got banned from twitch for being part of, or threatening with a DDOS attack that is what they told me. I have never done that, so my first thought was that there was some truth to this. And thought it happened as a result of hacking or something malevolent done towards me. And some things indicated that that might have been the case. But further investigation showed that there was no problem with my security. The ban had obviously been in regards to a report from someone. And this is where it gets interesting.

Someone reporting my account would not be enough. I have been reported plenty of times before. And I have used a lot on money on the twitch platform. Some troll calling me mr. poopy face is not enough. But they take reports from affiliates and partners seriously. I know this because the time the SOK got suspended, it was not because I wrote a report. But because I got a more famous streamer with a checkmark watching DSP at the time to report them. The effect was almost instantaneous.

Why is this interesting? Because my ban was just instant banhammer for something rather serious. Which I had not done. So it had to have been from a "trusted source" And the only person I can think of who would have that status and wold do something like this is Phil.

And here is why: Because he felt I was responsible for the "doxing scandal" I actually made this worse by sending him the doctored edition of the PM I had sendt to dynsastia. and not the original, which I later noticed but never corrected. I just send him the original afterwards figuring he would understand I mixed them up. He din't however and he made that twitlonger blaming me, which again turned out to be that argument we had with Jezal. At this point in time phil though I no longer was an asset but a detriment to his "business". But instead of talking to me about it directly because he is really conflict shy he just simply reported me and hoped I would disappear.

The reason I think so was that when there was conflicts regarding anything. Phil would never pick sides. And if it was regarding a moderator he would just pussyfoot around the issue and hope it would go away. Another reason would be that even though I had given him the reason I was banned, he still made those bisarre statements about me being banned because I went to other websites to "start shit" and that it was the New TOS that was the reason. And he never offered any support to me when it had happened. But blamed me for it in a way that he knew exactly what had happened. In fact what I belive is that a DDOS attack was the only thing that was what this was translated as. And given as an excuse to ban me.

What do you think? Is my logic messed up?

Certainly sounds reasonable, since Twitch gets complaints about people all the time. Without anything definitive it's just speculation, but it would make sense that the volume of complaints isn't as important as the status of the complainant when all of a sudden someone does get dropped.

Could've just as easily also been just any big name on Twitch, since a lot of people low-profile hate Phil and anyone who defends him, so unless Phil just up and admits that he was the complainant, it's probably not worth losing sleep over.

Phil in general is not worth losing sleep over, and if your significantly improved attitude isn't proof of that, I don't know what is.

 

[BSV]

I have followed you only passively since I have always founf Phil to be a more entertaining lolcow than you. You had some good moments, but not enough to hold my attention for all that long.

That being said, I thought you were banned for threatening someone. I don't recall it being anything about a DDOS attack. Wasn't your ban linked to threatening that guy you tried to bribe his silence on when he made that podcast (whose name eludes me at the moment)?

Yeah I think I know who you are thinking of. But I really don't think so. I don't think that guy is a verified twitch persona. We hadn't interacted for months either at that point

I can see DSP doing this as we know he runs secret ops to flag down things he doesn't like but I dont know if dsp would fuck with his own money. You were essentially one of his biggest cashcows, his narcissism and greed would compel him not to get you banned imo. Though, he couldve done damage assessment and concluded your money is not worth the trouble, but thats me giving dsp way too much credit. He is not that smart

The secret ops was the reason I started to suspect it. Remember I supported him with 50$ on patreon as well. If he would just ban me from the channel he would have had to do it publicly. And I would have kept my friendslist with all of the people on there. Why would he say I got banned because of the kiwifarms drama, when I told him it was for another reason, if he hadn't done it himself. No one else have taken credit for doing it either. And belive me they would have spited me with it. I have not found an alternative explanation.

 

[Freshtodeath]

BSV, perhaps Phil figured he could get you out of way on Twitch and you'd still contribute to his patreon. Considering how much you donated and the fact you were one of the more active mods he really didn't express any appreciation for you. Most streamers will give shout outs to their mods for helping out every day. Phil only gives shout outs when people donate it seems.

 

[Dragoonism]

DSPS forum is a breeding ground for ANTIFA..

His forum is more a breeding ground for einsatzgruppen than ANTIFA.

 

[Bryan Dunn]

Doubt it, BSV is still active on the KoH forum and BSV isnt ripped enough to be a close fan of LTG, though LTG is easy to get close to somewhat if you simply buy a shirt!

Give him enough money and you will have a seat at his "roundtable" where his closest people sit aka his biggest ass kissers and cash cows.

Well, bsv is 100% Bavarian phenotype and LTG is Uncle Ruckus so I think its safe to say that BSV has a seat at the Anti-Coon, BBCgene table by skin color alone

 

[neger psykolog]

Yeah I think I know who you are thinking of. But I really don't think so. I don't think that guy is a verified twitch persona. We hadn't interacted for months either at that point

The secret ops was the reason I started to suspect it. Remember I supported him with 50$ on patreon as well. If he would just ban me from the channel he would have had to do it publicly. And I would have kept my friendslist with all of the people on there. Why would he say I got banned because of the kiwifarms drama, when I told him it was for another reason, if he hadn't done it himself. No one else have taken credit for doing it either. And belive me they would have spited me with it. I have not found an alternative explanation.

tbh there are a number of people who reported you over time. They compiled information etc and reported it to Twitch.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure there is a distinction between users and broadcasters getting banned and depending on what exactly they flagged you for they don't have to give a reason (even if there is no reason, they still don't have to be truthful, they can just make up bullshit because that's the way it works).

Its just an account on a service where they can ban you for any reason at any time they feel like. It's the equivalent of Null walking in here and banning 20 accounts because he felt like it. Twitch does have a bit more obligation to be "accountable" but in reality they don't. Unless someone major gets banned then they're not going to provide a reason at all.

Besides you banned quite a lot of people over time, if you banned anyone who was partnered then they might've taken it on themselves to report you just for fun.

 

[MoistCucumber]

All I said was girls tend to lean in when you give them hugs or put their arm around them, and Phil banned me. :-(

What the fuck is the point of the point system if you get outright banned for anything? That forum will never get bigger then what it is and its because of Phil.

 

[WeeblesWobble]

He did actually make a Fighter only channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/DSPStreetFighter

@Bryan Dunn The difference between someone like I'mStillDaddy and LTG and Phil is that I'mStill is actually good. The guy does go to tournaments and does well. Usually he makes top 8 in Euro tournaments.

The other big difference is that he actually engages with his stream and his whole shtick might be an act.

Being salty is nothing really new for top players. Chris G is infamous for going on rants and calling his opponents scrubs and shit.

This is true. I've watched some of his streams but not only does he engage with chat by talking directly to them and individual chatters he plays against them in games and welcomes challenges. Phil couldn't do this he can't stand to take an L in front of other people.

And belive me they would have spited me with it. I have not found an alternative explanation.

Phil has no loyalty to anyone. His best friend Rambo even found himself under the bus.

 

[LordAutismo]

Yeah I think I know who you are thinking of. But I really don't think so. I don't think that guy is a verified twitch persona. We hadn't interacted for months either at that point.

Than I think your theory on Phil is correct. Bare in mind that the January Harvest Doxfest was started in no small part to there being evidence of your threat and people wanting Phil to answer for it. That can very easily put you in the liability pile to Phil and he wouldn't want to publicly get rid of you because he sure as hell don't want to see like he is appeasing those darn dirty detractors. Your theory makes sense based on what happened before your ban.

 

[Forbidden Math]

All I said was girls tend to lean in when you give them hugs or put their arm around them, and Phil banned me. :-(
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What the fuck is the point of the point system if you get outright banned for anything? That forum will never get bigger then what it is and its because of Phil.

Phil can't handle criticism and that's a big part of why so many people hate him. If it helps now you don't have to waste any more of your time on a 35-year-old manchild who begs children to support him.

 

[Ilscuro]

All I said was girls tend to lean in when you give them hugs or put their arm around them, and Phil banned me. :-(
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What the fuck is the point of the point system if you get outright banned for anything? That forum will never get bigger then what it is and its because of Phil.

That forum is shite mate, you're better off out of it.

This is true. I've watched some of his streams but not only does he engage with chat by talking directly to them and individual chatters he plays against them in games and welcomes challenges. Phil couldn't do this he can't stand to take an L in front of other people.


Phil has no loyalty to anyone. His best friend Rambo even found himself under the bus.

Phil's only loyalty is to money, he'd sell his grandma if he could make a quick buck.

 

[MoistCucumber]

Phil can't handle criticism and that's a big part of why so many people hate him. If it helps now you don't have to waste any more of your time on a 35-year-old manchild who begs children to support him.

Phil got me upset, but that snake KGHaleon got under my skin. We had a back and forth and eventually he ignored me because he couldn't counter what I was saying. Then I get banned and he talks shit. Like how pussy are you? He wanted to lock down the forum so no new members could join and I asked him why when he just post "Random Thoughts", I told him get a Twitter account and he ignored me. He's not even a fan of Phil but stays on that forum talking about detractors or about nothing no one cares about.

Whatever. There is something going on between Phil and Kat. I can't put my finger on it. I don't want to say she is being held hostage but theirs some hidden animosity towards Phil with Kat or deep rooted depression going on. Im not even a detractor, anyone that looks at that video, fucking anybody, can tell there is some issues going on with their relationship. It isn't soulmate material. Phil with his nodding head and blank stare into the camera and her obvious uncomfort are very apparent.

And here's the kicker, she isn't even working yet and looks like this. Wait until she starts working and has to cook and clean up after Phil.

 

[SleepyNibba]

Is he really unbanning people in exchange for money?

How fucking greedy can you get...

 

[neger psykolog]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7I5zzakgJ2YIs he really unbanning people in exchange for money?

How fucking greedy can you get...

Thought you were posting a video from last month in which he did something similar, but its actually he's actually readdressing it.
Unbanning or doing quite a few things in exchange for money can get u banned.

Plus this is like the 10th time he's addressed drama since he said he was never ever going to do it again.

 

[Xenomorph]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7I5zzakgJ2YIs he really unbanning people in exchange for money?

How fucking greedy can you get...

Wow you cannot do that, I mean at this point he is just trying to fuck his own shit up. I wonder if he is taking that "It's okay Phil you are ban proof" story to heart?