After decades of relegating its LGBTQ characters to the sidelines, Marvel really turned things around with America and Iceman, its first two ongoing series featuring queer characters as their titular leads. Both books have been important additions to Marvel’s ever-expanding portfolio, but it seems as if the time has come for at least one of them to end. March’s comics solicitations are out this week and a number of titles including America are conspicuously missing, which heavily implies that the titles have been canceled. This afternoon, Marvel editor Heather Antos confirmed that Gwenpool, another title missing from the March solicits, was definitely canceled, further suggesting that any titles missing from the lineup as of today are done for.
Culture Marvel is cancelling their sjw comics after getting bitch slapped by the Chad free market.
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Marvel's "Distinguished Competition" has been avoiding it for the most part and been doing as well as can be expected in an industry in decline as the only titles DC is cancelling are Superwoman and Cyborg. From what I have observed, DC has been taking a fair chunk of the non-SJW talent and even got Christopher Priest back into the industry. Why? Because DC offered him Deathstroke. He was sick of being effectively forced to write black characters on the basis he was black and Deathstroke has been very solid so far.
It comes to "tell" vs "sell" for me.
DC appears to have learned their lesson from the shortcomings of the New 52 ad DC You, and are attempting to win back their audience by telling stories they want (i.e. no ham-fisted social commentary or deconstructionist crap.) DC Rebirth has been doing quite well with "hope vs. cynicism" theme and the mystery surrounding Dr. Manhattan's machinations. Hell, I'm surprised by what Geoff Johns is doing with Doomsday Clock. He is now Alan Moore, but he is taking the project seriously and putting in the effort with collaborators Gary Frank and Brad Anderson.
Meanwhile, Marvel is trying to sell characters and stories to an audience that is either non-existent or simply does not buy the books while putting incompetent writers on them. Most of these titles are boring at best or downright incomprehensible as the case is for Gabby Riveria's America, which was one of the worst titles I have ever read and read like the fever dream of a raving lunatic (though you would see why if you've seen Riveria's twitter feed.) Despite all the fanfare Marvel gave for Legacy, it was ultimately another cynical attempt to sell the largely-disliked legacy characters. Looks like that has failed as many of those titles are getting the axe.
There is no unifying theme guiding Marvel's titles and there has not been any for years now. It goes beyond the legacy characters. The deluge of annual crossovers since 2005's House of M has disrupted the narrative flow of the individual titles. This effectively kneecapped All-New, All-Different Marvel because Civil War II upended the status quo yet again and again with the despised Secret Empire, which was a depressing read. They believe that crossovers and legacy characters will sell more titles. Unfortunately, Marvel may be shipping more issues with every crossover, but many of these titles remain unsold on retailers' shelves. The retailers are pissed because they are the ones who are paying for Marvel's antics and can you blame them?
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Looking around it does seem that only certain titles are selling well... and it's DC which is holding out very well in this case. DC's taken this month's 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10 spots in top numbers shipped, totalling some 758,000 or so units. In comparison Marvel holds 1 and 3 spots and forced out about 400,000 units.
Comic fans might joke endlessly about the DC universe rebooting itself every few years, but it seems to be working for them far better than the mess Marvel's in.
Comic fans might joke endlessly about the DC universe rebooting itself every few years, but it seems to be working for them far better than the mess Marvel's in.
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America Chavez is, as most agree, the worst of these. Dear god, it sucks. Our local comic guy actually stopped putting it on shelves (Despite Marvel forcing him to order them), because "People come in, see that garbage, laugh their asses off,and can't take anything else in the store seriously."
A close second is that garbage "Unstoppable Wasp". It's literally just GURL PWR!!! nonsense with no point.
Honorable mentions go to a whiny, cock-craving Iceman, a whiny, emo She-Hulk, and that hilariously bad female Thor.
The one I personally hate is Riri as "Iron Man". The entire comic is her being sassy and smug while constantly ignoring good advice, doing pointlessly stupid shit, literally stealing and making shitty copies of Stark Tech, shamelessly trying to pass off Starks tech as her own, and fucking up at every opportunity.
Not only does no one call her out for anything, but everyone, up to and including Tony Stark himself, cannot stop sucking her dick about it.
A close second is that garbage "Unstoppable Wasp". It's literally just GURL PWR!!! nonsense with no point.
Honorable mentions go to a whiny, cock-craving Iceman, a whiny, emo She-Hulk, and that hilariously bad female Thor.
The one I personally hate is Riri as "Iron Man". The entire comic is her being sassy and smug while constantly ignoring good advice, doing pointlessly stupid shit, literally stealing and making shitty copies of Stark Tech, shamelessly trying to pass off Starks tech as her own, and fucking up at every opportunity.
Not only does no one call her out for anything, but everyone, up to and including Tony Stark himself, cannot stop sucking her dick about it.
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She is definitely threadworthy.. And coincidentally, she retweeted Kiva Bay, who is a known Rat King cow, so she may have some connections there as well.
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It really can't be said just how much DC is wrecking Marvel at comics at the moment. I can't say I read everything they're putting out, but the stuff I'm skipping is because it doesn't interest me rather than it being shit. I would say DC has maybe three or four things each week I don't have at least a passing interest in. Marvel on the other hand, I'm lucky if I can find three or four things worth looking at.
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Let's be honest, the only reason Marvel comics was pulling this shit for so long was because Papa Disney was funneling money so they wouldn't completely collapse on themselves. The problem is that at this point they are a money pit and a liability. They don't act to get people hyped for movies because they replaced the characters. They aren't capturing any new audience, and are in fact rapidly shrinking it. You have them constantly fighting with retailers because their crap doesn't sell.
The movies are basically comic books. You know why they have broad appeal? Because black people, women and trans are human. They like them for the same reasons white people do. When you look at 'This is too white! The problem must be the white people. We will make it less white and then everyone will read it!'
Humans don't work like this. Nor did they ask themselves or anyone else why these audiences didn't read comics. Had nothing to do with the content, just it wasn't seen as socially acceptable for girls a long time ago. It's the way SJWs treat everyone like different races and genders like they were playing some sort of fucked up D&D game. They don't understand humanity or appealing to the human condition.
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Not too sure where you found those numbers from, but Decembers numbers aren't in yet. Only Captain America and Star Wars have managed to pull in 8th and 10th place respectively for the November sales. The eight comics that DC has in the top ten have brought in 809,652 comics sold alone.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...t-everything-went-wrong-marvel-comics-1070616
Pretty good article that details Marvel's shitshow of a year.
Like I'm pretty sure that Gabby Rivera is one of the shittiest comics writers that ever lived, (just search "America Comic roast" on YouTube and you will see what I mean), but why was she even on that book? Because she is both Latina and a lesbian, which matches the titular character and only that character. And it really shows when you read the way she writes other characters, especially white ones.
Someone cited Deathstroke and Christopher Priest (Who is arguably the most influential Black Panther writer), and that's a great example, because Priest is a talented writer he gets good assignments, even if they don't match his specific characteristics as a human being.
Pretty good article that details Marvel's shitshow of a year.
Another thing that Marvel completely missed: Just because your character is black, it doesn't mean that the writer HAS to be black, most comics have people of various races, creeds and sexualities, and unless the writer can write them all competently, they shouldn't be assigned any books in the 1st place.
Like I'm pretty sure that Gabby Rivera is one of the shittiest comics writers that ever lived, (just search "America Comic roast" on YouTube and you will see what I mean), but why was she even on that book? Because she is both Latina and a lesbian, which matches the titular character and only that character. And it really shows when you read the way she writes other characters, especially white ones.
Someone cited Deathstroke and Christopher Priest (Who is arguably the most influential Black Panther writer), and that's a great example, because Priest is a talented writer he gets good assignments, even if they don't match his specific characteristics as a human being.
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Yes, apologies it seems I picked September's numbers without realising it.
The point still stands.
Gosh it's almost like DC comics still treats people as human beings with talent first and not something they can shittily box tick to wank their (usually white) cocks off with about how progressive they are.
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I remember actually really liking the original artist for Squirrel Girl...until the current artist got them fired so they could draw it, and it looked like utter shit.
Also the character accused Tony Stark of “Ironmansplaining” at one point.
Also the character accused Tony Stark of “Ironmansplaining” at one point.
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I think DC Comics do a lot better because they are managed by actually talented people who have vast experience in the comics industry and an even bigger love for it.
They also benefit from the fact that a lot of their big characters are generational, Titles like the Flash, Green Lantern..etc have been built in a way that accommodates multiple characters using the same title.
DC Comics are far more accustomed to handling generational changes and it shows in them dominating nearly all mediums (Video Games, TV Shows..etc) bar Movies. Them seeing difficulty on the silver screen is purely because their full range of assets can't be fully utilized in one-and-done experiences, plus: 2 of their big 3 characters are icons that very well known to worldwide audiences, with Wonder Woman being the exception until recently.
The more I hear about SJW Marvel writers, the more I think we need a community thread for them. Maybe even Dramacow threads for the true drama queens among them, like Mark Waid or Nick Spencer.
Choices.. Choices..
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Original artist slanted for Squirrel Girl;
The artist that called in a favor with their friend(the comic’s writer) and got the job instead:
And finally, “Ironmansplaining”:
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You mean where she looks like a mentally handicapped boy?
Dear lord is that bad.
EDIT: seems I was beaten to it but, I profess this looks like shit.
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Even worse? Erica Henderson draws Squirrel Girl in that style by choice to piss readers off!
She can draw like THIS:
She can draw like THIS:
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What a great and not at all fucking stupid way to sell your comic!
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They also know to build up the replacements first and foremost, even if they first go through, say, being a side kick to the big names. This is why Dick Grayson worked as a great example I cited earlier. They built Grayson up for decades in various forms before deciding the character was more then developed enough to branch out into Bludhaven and become a new hero.
Marvel just dumps them on folks with barely a hurrah or fanfare.
Original Squirrel girl: Adorable girl in touch with animals uses said power for good and has adorable costume.
Later Squirrel Girl: PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Given the past few years, I don't think sales were high on Marvel's priorities....
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As far as Squirrel Girl goes, she's another example of SJW artists/writers making female characters ugly or unlikeable on purpose to say fuck you to certain groups of people. Sweaty nerds who masturbate to sexy ladies, the patriarchy and its oppressive beauty standards, men who are intimidated by "strong womyn"... the only people they never ever seem to think about when writing/drawing these characters are the female readers they expect to buy the resulting unappealing shit show.
It's amazing they somehow get to fight out their grudges on the back of a multi-million dollar company, I'll give them that much. Well, until their comics get cancelled of course, because nobody's going to buy a product that is more concerned with pissing some people off than it is with appealing to its audience.
It's amazing they somehow get to fight out their grudges on the back of a multi-million dollar company, I'll give them that much. Well, until their comics get cancelled of course, because nobody's going to buy a product that is more concerned with pissing some people off than it is with appealing to its audience.
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As a dc fans, I know DC have their SJW moment and author, but the thing is they try to have a diversity.
Also , Marvel have decent author too( duggan and the ultimates author were fun) but slowy they are lossing them.For example, I'm not a fan of current bendis, and I want him far away of character like supes(teen titan, cyborg , nightwing are decent choices for him) but is bad for marvel to loss the him.
Also , Marvel have decent author too( duggan and the ultimates author were fun) but slowy they are lossing them.For example, I'm not a fan of current bendis, and I want him far away of character like supes(teen titan, cyborg , nightwing are decent choices for him) but is bad for marvel to loss the him.
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