Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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BrunoMattei said:
This thread took a turn.
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Not really, its been a cesspool of trollshielding and moral grandstanding for a while now.

If you people need to try so hard to shit on Fred its probably because you're trying to cover up your own misdeeds. There are so many rats in this thread who were fine being on the SS Fred until it started to sink.

Edit: Bryan, thanks for demonstrating how pathetic you are yet again.
 
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Spellskite said:
Not really, its been a cesspool of trollshielding and moral grandstanding for a while now.

If you people need to try so hard to shit on Fred its probably because you're trying to cover up your own misdeeds. There are so many rats in this thread who were fine being on the SS Fred until it started to sink.
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It does seem like none of this would have come to light unless a third party/parties got involved and uncovered it. Anyone in the Sok seemed under Fred's thumb and anyone who left would have had to incriminate themselves and both would have been attacked and buried by the other members and the hardcore Sok fans. Hell days before the shit really hit the fans they did a Let's Endure and tried to pretend nothing was going on. The leaks themselves did focus on Fred, but if you are looking to discredit a group you have to go after the guy at the top. If you cut the head off a snake the body will die and it sure as hell did. However it is odd all of the leaks that came from actual Sok members were just things Fred did and almost everyone else does not want to take some blame. Others have said everyone did things too, but not much evidence has come out to show what others were involved in.
 
JamFlowMan said:
It does seem like none of this would have come to light unless a third party/parties got involved and uncovered it. Anyone in the Sok seemed under Fred's thumb and anyone who left would have had to incriminate themselves and both would have been attacked and buried by the other members and the hardcore Sok fans. Hell days before the shit really hit the fans they did a Let's Endure and tried to pretend nothing was going on. The leaks themselves did focus on Fred, but if you are looking to discredit a group you have to go after the guy at the top. If you cut the head off a snake the body will die and it sure as hell did. However it is odd all of the leaks that came from actual Sok members were just things Fred did and almost everyone else does not want to take some blame. Others have said everyone did things too, but not much evidence has come out to show what others were involved in.
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It does look like you need to take everything on a case to case basis.
Che came up with a lot of evidence and stories even though most of them were incriminating him.
RARAD was a newcomer so he may not have known a lot or have any juicy convos to share but at one point he might have noticed something was going on, yet he remained silent. But, he only jumped ship when it was almost completely sunk.
Prideful, AJ, Schad all "left" when the ship was at the bottom of the ocean. It's obvious they have no remorse and that their 'apologies" are all bullshit. They were waiting for the storm to pass so they could resume. Schad saying she had nothing to do with any of it is a complete lie. Even if this was the case, seeing all the shit your friends are doing and saying nothing about how wrong it is makes you guilty too.
Fred might have been the leader but I have no doubt some of the others were enjoying all the backstabing going on behind the scene. If JoRo and James didn't intervened, they'd all be enjoying themselves doing the same thing they'd been doing for a while.

Fred is an excuse, they're all responsible for their actions. Some of them are guiltier than others but their all guilty of something none the less. Someone who didn't want to get their hands dirty would have left earlier (some did).
 
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Sasquatch82 said:
I took a listen to the Jonathan Ross Febreze stream and he mentioned that Fred had framed TXT's doxing on Ross.

Does this mean Fred's resurfaced? Or at least is operating behind the scenes?
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That was pertaining to this:
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Audio file: https://instaud.io/1fzu
 
AckAckAckAck said:
if he is following this thread good luck finding his facebook because you know hes gonna delete that.
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Others from the group I've spoken to have said that Fred has claimed to never really having any personal social media accounts to begin with, though he would essentially be required to have a LinkedIn if he's involved in local government. If any of that is factual, and coming from Fred that is a big if.
None of this is surprising considering he is a person who was in Skype calls 19 hours a day as Fred Fuchs, and as such their former essence is by that point gone.
 
After watching Loophole's ad hoc podcast with Tevin and @Che and @Moogle, you guys are alright. You own up to your mistakes unlike the majority of the cows that populate the farms, and you seem ready to make amends. I got a lot of respect for you. You totally can be half-autistic.
 
Of course he lied. I honestly think all of them except for Radrad and Che turned on him to save their own skins and divert all the bad shit on them. Moogles stream where it was just all of them dicking around like they got away with it and shitting on Fred like its a SoKcast just proved that to me. Its especially obvious with the likes of Schad and Prideful who didn't leave until the ship had truly sank and there was no coming back.
 
OneDaySon said:
Moogles stream where it was just all of them dicking around like they got away with it and shitting on Fred like its a SoKcast just proved that to me.
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In fairness to Moogle, it seems like he had all but left the group before the fallout. Other members of the group also stated that he had quit focusing on dsp months prior & had on at least one occasion tried to steer the group in that same direction.
 
I do think most SoK people turned on Fred after HIS chat logs got exposed. Most of them for sure must have more dirt somewhere right? That said, I think the Fred saga is pretty much over for now. Hopefully he'll return in a month or two in an attempt to salvage his reputation/sok. This meltdown of Freds "three year legacy" was hilarious.
 
SirJamesDTech said:
The cancer doesn't just end with Fred and Fizz.
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Shit like this, the mere fact Fazfuck threw Fred under the bus to save his own skin, is the reason why I heavily suspect a SOK 2.0 will occur some day. Remember what HMG said during the Loophole stream, they banned Fred and were thinking of renaming the group to something else.
Huge fucking red flag there.
 
Christopher Alyre Fleming said:
In fairness to Moogle, it seems like he had all but left the group before the fallout. Other members of the group also stated that he had quit focusing on dsp months prior & had on at least one occasion tried to steer the group in that same direction.
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I was fairly distant with all the DSP shit ever since the weekly podcast stopped, i've said it many times with people that I got tired of it because some people took it way too seriously and I was honestly getting sick of hearing about him all the time, he always does the same thing and people talk about it like it's something completely different. I understand the dude does stupid shit, but I honestly didn't want to be known for always shitting on the dude. He was always a dude that I ironically watched and laughed at whenever he got mad at games.

OneDaySon said:
Of course he lied. I honestly think all of them except for Radrad and Che turned on him to save their own skins and divert all the bad shit on them. Moogles stream where it was just all of them dicking around like they got away with it and shitting on Fred like its a SoKcast just proved that to me. Its especially obvious with the likes of Schad and Prideful who didn't leave until the ship had truly sank and there was no coming back.
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That stream was just a hangout thing answering questions here and there, I told some stuff that happened with me and people came in to just have fun with making fun of him. I don't think it was that big of a deal considering most of the time we were laughing and having a good time.

That was before I found out about the stuff that Fazzy did, which was last night where he admitted in a call that he looked up Alice's information on facebook and give it to Fred and he said Fred was the one that told him to do it. Either way he had a hand in doing it and people are pissed, Che especially was pissed and he has all the reason to be pissed about it. Personally I think it's really shitty, I just wished he didn't wait until now to tell them that. I wasn't around when that happened, but it apparently got pretty heated in there. I always thought of Fazzy as a decent guy and a good friend, but I honestly don't know what to think anymore these days. As for Fred while I forgave him before with him talking shit in a secret group, I regret even doing that when more leaks came out where he was accusing me of lying for no reason and getting all hung up over family issues I had. He relied way too much on me for streams and I wished I had left a long time ago.
 
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