Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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Imagine explaining this stupid shit to your grandfather.
 
I had the power go out for a second...

Is King of Pol losing it on the stream?
 
I think moral of this stupid saga is get off internet once and a while for sex.

I do not understand making entire life around online shit. It seems not healthy at all. Internet is tool for research, distraction, and fun. Not meant to be replacement for normal relationships and life.

Now excuse me I must go shotgun beers and walk to public park to huff airplane glue like healthy normal adult.
 
According to KoP, Fred was expecting Metokur to troll shield him from TXT and the farms and got told to piss off.

A Jim video on the SoK is seeming more and more likely.

Fingers crossed.
 
Hi kiwifarms.

I've been lurking this thread from the start and have hesitated to post about my personal experiences with the SoK/GSoK/Fred because I wanted to move away from them after the awful experience I had.

I joined the GSoK Discord server in October of 2016. The GSoK stands for "Grand Sons of Kojima", and was mostly a group of people who enjoy watching SoK podcasts aswell as watching videos of DSP. The group was pretty chill and usually just had members playing video games together or watching videos together. The only drama within that group that I personally experienced was with a member Heavy Metal Gamer (HMG). HMG is a nice guy and I really enjoyed talking to him. However, HMG also tends to get into a lot of overdramatic fights with trolls who want to get a reaction out of him. I was told that people would doxx him and harass his facebook pages as well as call him IRL to fuck with him. My opinion was that his reaction to the trolling was exactly what you don't want to do if you want people to stop.(edited)

In December of 2016 Fred started frequenting the GSoK server. This was shortly after or before the 100'th SoK podcast when Fred claimed the podcast would be ending.

At some point in or around March of 2017 some GSoK members (myself included) had grown tired of hearing about the daily fights HMG was getting into with drama trolls. Admittedly some people just didn't like HMG because he can be very rude at times, though that never bothered me.

Fred believed that the GSoK group should hold a poll to see if he should be kicked from the group. At this point Fred was not an admin or a mod of the group. The idea of kicking a user from a group based on a poll was stupid to me, and I 100% disagreed with the idea. I was also very tired of hearing about drama involving HMG because at this point it had been ongoing for over six months. I wont hide the fact that I sperged out a bit when the argument became myself vs Fred, especially when users like RadRad and others immediately came to his defense. Fred made some comment about autism that I mistakenly thought was directed at me, and i left the GSoK group. The experience was enough to make me want to distance myself from any anti DSP group aside from a few close friends I made. The GSoK to me was just a place for fans of the SoK to chill and shoot the shit, but once Fred and other SoK members started frequenting the place it went to shit (in my opinion).

After leaving the group and having some conversations with CaseTech I was invited to sit down and talk with Fred to figure out where we both stood. The call was unimaginably bad and didn't last for more than an hour. It broke down into name calling and nothing was gained from it. At this point I was pretty fucking pissed off with some of the things Fred had said to me, such as "I'm glad you've left the community, you're a toxic user" so I decided to talk to Burn who I was told had a falling out with the SoK and specifically Fred. Also, I should mention that I had no idea what the SoK was or any of the drama backstory with Burn or anyone else in the KwO or ex SoK. I was introduced to this group after having made fun of DSP in MKX. Apparently talking to Burn about Fred and the GSoK was crossing some sort of line to Fred because once he found out that I had he tried to use that as a way to show that I was targeting the GSoK and trying to start more drama and infighting within their group. He claimed I gave them "ammo"

By sharing these DMs I am being hypocritical to CaseTech who I gave a ton of shit to for sharing our DMs to Fred. So to CaseTech, I am sorry. Maybe sometimes there is a good enough reason to share private conversations.

In the end I did my best to burry the hatchet with Fred and move on because to me I saw someone who would be willing to go to any length to drag my name though the mud in order to prove he was right and I was wrong. This thread has backed up that opinion. Anyway, I'm not perfect I'm just another sperg who likes to make fun of lolcows so do what you will with this information.


This conversation takes place 1/2 weeks after I had talked to Burn and had the private argument call with Fred.

Edit: the DMs are now in order.

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Hi kiwifarms.

I've been lurking this thread from the start and have hesitated to post about my personal experiences with the SoK/GSoK/Fred because I wanted to move away from them after the awful experience I had.

I joined the GSoK Discord server in October of 2016. The GSoK stands for "Grand Sons of Kojima", and was mostly a group of people who enjoy watching SoK podcasts aswell as watching videos of DSP. The group was pretty chill and usually just had members playing video games together or watching videos together. The only drama within that group that I personally experienced was with a member Heavy Metal Gamer (HMG). HMG is a nice guy and I really enjoyed talking to him. However, HMG also tends to get into a lot of overdramatic fights with trolls who want to get a reaction out of him. I was told that people would doxx him and harass his facebook pages as well as call him IRL to fuck with him. My opinion was that his reaction to the trolling was exactly what you don't want to do if you want people to stop.(edited)

In December of 2016 Fred started frequenting the GSoK server. This was shortly after or before the 100'th SoK podcast when Fred claimed the podcast would be ending.

At some point in or around March of 2017 some GSoK members (myself included) had grown tired of hearing about the daily fights HMG was getting into with drama trolls. Admittedly some people just didn't like HMG because he can be very rude at times, though that never bothered me.

Fred believed that the GSoK group should hold a poll to see if he should be kicked from the group. At this point Fred was not an admin or a mod of the group. The idea of kicking a user from a group based on a poll was stupid to me, and I 100% disagreed with the idea. I was also very tired of hearing about drama involving HMG because at this point it had been ongoing for over six months. I wont hide the fact that I sperged out a bit when the argument became myself vs Fred, especially when users like RadRad and others immediately came to his defense. Fred made some comment about autism that I mistakenly thought was directed at me, and i left the GSoK group. The experience was enough to make me want to distance myself from any anti DSP group aside from a few close friends I made. The GSoK to me was just a place for fans of the SoK to chill and shoot the shit, but once Fred and other SoK members started frequenting the place it went to shit (in my opinion).

After leaving the group and having some conversations with CaseTech I was invited to sit down and talk with Fred to figure out where we both stood. The call was unimaginably bad and didn't last for more than an hour. It broke down into name calling and nothing was gained from it. At this point I was pretty fucking pissed off with some of the things Fred has said to me such as "I'm glad you've left the community, you're a toxic user" so I decided to talk to Burn who I was told had a falling out with the SoK and specifically Fred. Also, I should mention that I had no idea what the SoK was or any of the drama backstory with Burn or anyone else in the KwO or ex SoK. I was introduced to this group after having made fun of DSP in MKX. Apparently talking to Burn about Fred and the GSoK was crossing some sort of line to Fred because once he found out that I had he tried to use that as a way to show that I was targeting the GSoK and trying to start more drama and infighting within their group. He claimed I gave them "ammo"

By sharing these DMs I am being hypocritical to CaseTech who I gave a ton of shit to for sharing our DMs to Fred. So to CaseTech, I am sorry. Maybe sometimes there is a good enough reason to share private conversations.

In the end I did my best to burry the hatchet with Fred and move on because to me I saw someone who would be willing to go to any length to drag my name though the mud in order to prove he was right and I was wrong. This thread has backed up that opinion. Anyway, I'm not perfect I'm just another sperg who likes to make fun of lolcows so do what you will with this information.


This conversation takes place 1/2 weeks after I had talked to Burn and had the private argument call with Fred .
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"group leadership"
"experience in politics"
hahahahahahahahahahaha
 
Someone said this thread won't make it to 100 pages, but all the shit and salt coming out of this stream is going to take 100 pages to analyze and laugh at.
 
Vidar joining?

Also Fred, between Drgnkiller and Che destroying you on social media, and any friends you may have leaving you alone during this, I'm going to ask, what's next for you?

You probably wanted the fame given how jealous you were of the others whenever they started to get just a little more popular than "your" group. Well, you got the recognition part but it probably wasn't for what you really wanted it to be; you are now known for being a DSP with a fraction of the income and the support from any fans that you may have left. What's next, Fred?

You probably wanted to be one of the reasons why DSP would fall into irrelevance but here you are already crushed by the people you've backstabbing and silenced before through lies, intimidation and vitriol. Now that you've lost credibility and friends over this, what's left for you to cling to?

Obscurity?
 
I enjoyed the Laveria shit just because it had people that do actual business on youtube in advertising and it was interesting to see perspective.
 
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