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DykesDykesChina said:I can't understand why the loveshys are so prejudiced against fat girls. I think chubby girls are very cute!
They they think that they're entitled to supermodels, because they're Nice Guys™. If the woman isn't physically perfect, then they're beneath them.
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Brian Peppers said:
Anyone else get the feeling that Peppers is one of those "They had it coming" kind of people?
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Saney said:
I think all the loveshies are those kind of people.
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I thought you guys are being mean against losers too, but after reading through the thread I totally get it now.
I mean, I am fucking shy in real life, no doubt about that (I got my only gf with help from some people), but at least I don't make excuses and only blame myself.
I mean, I am fucking shy in real life, no doubt about that (I got my only gf with help from some people), but at least I don't make excuses and only blame myself.
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DrTremolo said:
But women should like them! They're such Nice Guys!
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That genetic lottery is a big problem for men, eh? Hmm...Brian Peppers said:
Hmmmm...Brian Peppers said:
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Alec Benson Leary said:
That being said, fatties don't want them either. LOL
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Well, no, they wouldn't.
But Jesus, he's bitching that women just write him off as worthless... while at the same time, he's decided there is an entire category of women that he can fairly write off as worthless.
But Jesus, he's bitching that women just write him off as worthless... while at the same time, he's decided there is an entire category of women that he can fairly write off as worthless.
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Alec Benson Leary said:
If only these guys knew what irony was...this topic has come up repeatedly when I used to post there. (for the lulz of course)
That being said, I'd rather date a chubby girl than an anorexic one
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You know, it just occurred to me that I'd be an excellent Love-shy. I'm socially awkward, white, somewhat overweight, cranky, have an ambiguous mental disorder and don't date much. But I'm female, so I guess I don't qualify. Oh woe. 
In all seriousness, though, I'm kind of glad that I don't come up to their exacting standards. If I had to apply a word to their collective posts, it would be 'hysteria.' And possibly 'shrill.' They make me think of the stereotypical Mean Girls in every badly-written YA high school novel ever: petty, picky, shallow, and immune to logic. It's like they've internalized their own female boogeymen and have become were-golddiggers.
In all seriousness, though, I'm kind of glad that I don't come up to their exacting standards. If I had to apply a word to their collective posts, it would be 'hysteria.' And possibly 'shrill.' They make me think of the stereotypical Mean Girls in every badly-written YA high school novel ever: petty, picky, shallow, and immune to logic. It's like they've internalized their own female boogeymen and have become were-golddiggers.
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Slowboat to China said:You know, it just occurred to me that I'd be an excellent Love-shy. I'm socially awkward, white, somewhat overweight, cranky, have an ambiguous mental disorder and don't date much. But I'm female, so I guess I don't qualify. Oh woe.
In all seriousness, though, I'm kind of glad that I don't come up to their exacting standards. If I had to apply a word to their collective posts, it would be 'hysteria.' And possibly 'shrill.' They make me think of the stereotypical Mean Girls in every badly-written YA high school novel ever: petty, picky, shallow, and immune to logic. It's like they've internalized their own female boogeymen and have become were-golddiggers.
So this is kind of what they want to date?
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No, since you're a woman, you get to have sex at any time with any guy you want and you never ever have to be lonely and tortured. Only sweet, wonderful omega males know what it feels like to be unappreciated for the amazing door-openers that they are.Slowboat to China said:But I'm female, so I guess I don't qualify. Oh woe.
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I'm a member on there and we're all not that bad. Sure some of things said on there is a bit out there, but most of us(myself I guess) are just fed up and disappointed.
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Yeah, Vagabond, when you wander back there, I have a message for all of you incels and love-shy this and that about some of the "out there" statements.
You want to be trusted? You want to be appreciated for all of the door-opening and listening and shit you do? Okay, grand. Then convince your brethren that rape is, in fact, a very fucking serious crime, nor is it "big business" (whatever the fuck that means) for feminist organizations. (I contribute to several. We're trying to do shit like preserve reproductive rights that were ruled constitutional 40 years ago, and mitigate some of the damage sexism does to everyone in a society that permits it. There are no big bucks to be had that way.) Women and men affected by this issue: Very serious trigger warning for sexual assault below. I mean it.
tl;dr Keep being safe and trustworthy, if in fact you are so. If not, become that way by any means necessary. There are many, many women -- one in six, in the US -- who literally need that to feel comfortable talking to you long enough to learn what other good qualities you have.
You want to be trusted? You want to be appreciated for all of the door-opening and listening and shit you do? Okay, grand. Then convince your brethren that rape is, in fact, a very fucking serious crime, nor is it "big business" (whatever the fuck that means) for feminist organizations. (I contribute to several. We're trying to do shit like preserve reproductive rights that were ruled constitutional 40 years ago, and mitigate some of the damage sexism does to everyone in a society that permits it. There are no big bucks to be had that way.) Women and men affected by this issue: Very serious trigger warning for sexual assault below. I mean it.
I could not trust men for years, Vag - I hope you don't mind if I call you Vag; I hope we can be buddies - after the man I had been married to for 14 years decided to teach me that I was indeed his property. I had stopped sleeping with him about two or three weeks prior because he was becoming an increasingly dangerous, out-of-control alcoholic. Memory loss, puking on himself and then calling the boss in the morning to say he was going to "telecommute" that day, you name it. And I was scared of him. Then one day I broke my arm cycling. My awful wedded husband filled the doctor's prescription for horse-pill Percocets and helped me swallow the full prescribed dosage of the pills. That night I lay there in bed, waiting for the room to stop spinning, begging I knew not what power to let me fall asleep already.
And then Awful Wedded Husband entered the bedroom and said, "Maybe this will take your mind off the pain."
I left him, of course, and filed divorce papers. Even though my new neighborhood was quiet, one time I heard a noise in the back yard - probably a cat - and did the least advisable thing possible: went out there with my biggest kitchen knife. Luckily it was nothing. Because if it had been some poor innocent incel leaving a bouquet of roses on my fire escape or what the fuck ever, I would certainly now be in prison and he would be minus one nutsack.
Even when I started to date again, I couldn't form stable attachments because the last long-term relationship I had been in taught me that I would eventually be raped and threatened with death if I told anyone what happened. Did I go out with alphas? Not for years. Because Awful Wedded Husband had been a conventionally attractive, ambitious go-getter who was, behind my back, getting more ass than a sorority toilet seat. (Of course people only told me this after, which is how I learned that he had previously attempted to rape a mutual friend. She hadn't reported either, not out of fear but shame. She thought it was her fault for existing while female, and trusting a friend she thought loved his wife.) So the first guy I dated after the shit had settled was (and is) a 400-pound nerd who designs tabletop RPGs. He seemed safe. Indeed, the major thing that broke us up was his alcoholism. I know it's an addiction, not a character flaw, but it reminded me too much of what happened.
You self-styled betas want to be trusted and get dates? Join one of the Men Against Rape organizations, or loudly let it be known that you won't be friends with anyone of any sex who even jokingly suggests that rape is "not a very serious crime," or is okay in some circumstances, or fucking whatever. Offer to walk women to their cars at night. Then do it and don't expect anything from it. My current boyfriend of almost five years is a man who started talking to me with no expectation of fanny, who is handsome but not an alpha. He is kind because he enjoys being kind. He would help you - yes, you, Vag - dig your car out of the snow. He makes me feel very, very safe. Of course being more than a foot taller than me and being a meat shield helps with that when we're in public, but anybody can be taller than me who isn't a literal midget. His behavior makes me feel valued for myself, and safe.
It may be only March, Vag, but trust, this is the best advice you will get all year. Because if I hadn't had very, very good therapy, I would still be dating women exclusively. The nightmares are less frequent, and I've got my fear of all men down to an oddly specific phobia of white men on bicycles, wearing all that spandex racing kit. Awful Wedded Husband took up cycling because he idolized Lance Armstrong, so my association with all that shit is him drunkenly bicycling home from the pub and then being surprised the next morning to find his arms and legs scraped to shit or his tire punctured, and being in a screaming rage the rest of the day because of it.
And then Awful Wedded Husband entered the bedroom and said, "Maybe this will take your mind off the pain."
I left him, of course, and filed divorce papers. Even though my new neighborhood was quiet, one time I heard a noise in the back yard - probably a cat - and did the least advisable thing possible: went out there with my biggest kitchen knife. Luckily it was nothing. Because if it had been some poor innocent incel leaving a bouquet of roses on my fire escape or what the fuck ever, I would certainly now be in prison and he would be minus one nutsack.
Even when I started to date again, I couldn't form stable attachments because the last long-term relationship I had been in taught me that I would eventually be raped and threatened with death if I told anyone what happened. Did I go out with alphas? Not for years. Because Awful Wedded Husband had been a conventionally attractive, ambitious go-getter who was, behind my back, getting more ass than a sorority toilet seat. (Of course people only told me this after, which is how I learned that he had previously attempted to rape a mutual friend. She hadn't reported either, not out of fear but shame. She thought it was her fault for existing while female, and trusting a friend she thought loved his wife.) So the first guy I dated after the shit had settled was (and is) a 400-pound nerd who designs tabletop RPGs. He seemed safe. Indeed, the major thing that broke us up was his alcoholism. I know it's an addiction, not a character flaw, but it reminded me too much of what happened.
You self-styled betas want to be trusted and get dates? Join one of the Men Against Rape organizations, or loudly let it be known that you won't be friends with anyone of any sex who even jokingly suggests that rape is "not a very serious crime," or is okay in some circumstances, or fucking whatever. Offer to walk women to their cars at night. Then do it and don't expect anything from it. My current boyfriend of almost five years is a man who started talking to me with no expectation of fanny, who is handsome but not an alpha. He is kind because he enjoys being kind. He would help you - yes, you, Vag - dig your car out of the snow. He makes me feel very, very safe. Of course being more than a foot taller than me and being a meat shield helps with that when we're in public, but anybody can be taller than me who isn't a literal midget. His behavior makes me feel valued for myself, and safe.
It may be only March, Vag, but trust, this is the best advice you will get all year. Because if I hadn't had very, very good therapy, I would still be dating women exclusively. The nightmares are less frequent, and I've got my fear of all men down to an oddly specific phobia of white men on bicycles, wearing all that spandex racing kit. Awful Wedded Husband took up cycling because he idolized Lance Armstrong, so my association with all that shit is him drunkenly bicycling home from the pub and then being surprised the next morning to find his arms and legs scraped to shit or his tire punctured, and being in a screaming rage the rest of the day because of it.
tl;dr Keep being safe and trustworthy, if in fact you are so. If not, become that way by any means necessary. There are many, many women -- one in six, in the US -- who literally need that to feel comfortable talking to you long enough to learn what other good qualities you have.
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Is fschmidt not that bad? Is Cenobite? Rammspieler?
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And I can fully empathize with those feelings. I was the only girl in my class to not have a boyfriend, so I felt pretty "forever alone" back then. After graduating the dating game wasn't much better: I met guys I liked, we became friends because we got along really well, but that didn't lead to relationships. Where these guys handsome, thundercock alphas? Nope. My guys were nice guys, who either weren't interested, liked other girls or already had girlfriends. It happens. So yeah, it was really frustrating and I was quite "fed up" by guys for a while.
However, I didn't join a "man-hating" forum, filled with women who just shriek about silly things like how american guys are only interested in super model babes, slutty girls and idiot girls. Or how men are only good for their sperm, and since we produce ovum we really would just need to keep some prime male specimens alive in order to supply our super sperm bank. Or how the Y chromosome is mangled and maimed, while the X chromosome is ten times more awesome.
Being lonely and frustrated because of lack of a partner is something that many people experience. I'm sure there's people in the Loveshy forum that aren't total psychos but, hanging out in a place where people just fester in misogyny and hatred won't do anyone any good. The forum might serve as a place to vent frustrations, but just look at the names Saney mentioned: fschmidt, Cenobite, Rammspieler?
Anyplace where those guys have an audience that shares their ideals is an intellectual wasteland.
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Now keep in mind I feel largely neutral toward loveshies and their forum-- not to say that I don't come here and laugh at some of the choice quotes--, but I don't think you should even attempt to defend them when they have discussions about the positivity of shootings and try to slap their labels on the neurotically disturbed people who carry them out.
I mean honestly, maybe you are just a forum for guys who are fed up with dating (or being lonely) and the attitudes of women. Ok, fine. Then why do you house people like aforementioned? That really just gives the wrong message, don't you think? All I'm trying to say is, attempting to be a crusader for your people here won't get you too far. Just be you, and if you don't admire mass murderers then we'll probably think you're alright.
Or, at least, I will. Say whatever the hell you want about women, I kinda find it funny sometimes (speaking as a woman myself if you were wondering).
I mean honestly, maybe you are just a forum for guys who are fed up with dating (or being lonely) and the attitudes of women. Ok, fine. Then why do you house people like aforementioned? That really just gives the wrong message, don't you think? All I'm trying to say is, attempting to be a crusader for your people here won't get you too far. Just be you, and if you don't admire mass murderers then we'll probably think you're alright.
Or, at least, I will. Say whatever the hell you want about women, I kinda find it funny sometimes (speaking as a woman myself if you were wondering).
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