US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Donald_J_Trump said:
I think it’s less a desperate belief that there is more to the files, and more of an indignant anger. Most of the hard evidence was most likely destroyed during the Biden admin, or maybe ever longer ago.

“What are you gunna do?” Say people like Bill Clinton. “Sue us for destroying evidence that directly involves us in a child raping cult? Okay cool, and if you win your prize is 10k usd of tax payer money lul.”

It’s just surreal. I really hope they don’t get away with it. We can’t let them get away with it.
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I’m sure there is more damning information on stuff like financial fuckery or other more likely and mundane crimes here. The problem is belief has taken over.
 
Air support said:
Pretty sure if you ask any normal person outside thats not a MIGA cultist they would say the victims of sexual abuse are more important than stocks they probably dont even own
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Uh, pretty much anyone with a full time job has some kind of retirement account that involves the stock market

People won’t be happy to admit it, but if faced with the reality of a choice between something that tangibly affects them and something that’s bad but doesn’t, my bet is we’ll find the bad thing that doesn’t affect us is perfect for virtue signaling

I mean, yeah, hunt them down. We can handle more than one priority at a time. But if we had to choose, we’d go with money
 
George Lucas said:
There is no list. That’s kind of the whole problem. Everyone started demanding a list that never existed (and logically would not exist).
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The list most likely stems from the question, “how was Epstein extorting people”.

Epstein most likely had a list or atleast dossiers or videos that hard incriminated people.

But after the feds raided Lolita Island, I’m certain it was all destroyed.

What makes me sick to my stomach is that RIGHT NOW, as we discuss this, there is a new “Epstein” equivalent out there. He is helping the rich and powerful rape children, and there is nothing we can do to stop him, because we don’t even know who it is yet.

Evil never sleeps. The wicked never rest.
 
Chaotic Good Barbarian said:
It goes back way further even. See: the boomer trope about how we “stole black music”. The very first R&B record company was founded in 1947 by jews - tbh I don’t even think R&B was a thing yet in the black community, because almost a decade later Ray Charles drops and there was a backlash about filthing up black gospel music with songs about fucking. Guess whose idea that was?

That album was called New Sounds In Country and Western Music, btw - just like Chuck Berry was known as The Black Hillbilly, but that’s a rant for another 15 minute break.

There are tons of obscure but great musicians out there, and many more pieces of shit strapped to a million dollar promotion rocket. The Industry is a method of control over popular thought, it has never been any kind of meritocracy.
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At least R&B and rock 'n' roll were both innovative. For all his problems, and he had a few, Chuck Berry was actually a talented musician. Muddy Waters discovered him and introduced him to Leonard and Phil Chess. The Chess Brothers were Jewish, but were not known for political activism: to them, signing black artists was business, and a successful one at that.

R&B and early rock musicians knew how to play their instruments and perform. By the late 50's and early 60's, you saw relative nobodies starting their own record companies (e.g. Berry Gordy and Motown) that became successful. Gordy was basically a small-time producer and promoter before founding Motown with his own money. He recruited local talent and it worked out for him. Most major rap and hip-hop artists from the 80's and 90's had Jewish producers behind them, unlike many successful black R&B artists who were signed to black-owned labels like Motown. Also, not all famous black rock musicians were tied to Jews, like Jimi Hendrix (who was scouted and managed by Chas Chandler).

Rap music had some interesting people in terms of writing lyrics and rhymes, but they got away with musical plagiarism by calling it "sampling." Biz Markie should have been shot for blatantly stealing Freddie Scott's song and yelling over it like an asshole. "(You) Got What I Need" is a great song and Scott was a fantastic singer, but Markie fucking ruined it and now everyone thinks of his shitty song instead of Scott's when they hear the melody.

Gangster rap and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. It would have been one thing if all the gangster rap of the 90's was a fad, but the performers were all drug-addicted, paranoid motherfuckers who founded their own record companies and kept it going. Jerry Heller was responsible for his success, but Ice Cube fucking hates Jews because he fell into Nation of Islam in the 90's. Rather than entertain the idea that he was bisexual, Eazy-E's family believes Suge Knight infected Eazy-E with HIV-tipped acupuncture needles. Suge Knight hired gang members to intimidate other musicians and Dr. Dre has a long history of hitting women. These are not intelligent people we're talking about here.
 
SpergioLeonne said:
Uh, pretty much anyone with a full time job has some kind of retirement account that involves the stock market

People won’t be happy to admit it, but if faced with the reality of a choice between something that tangibly affects them and something that’s bad but doesn’t, my bet is we’ll find the bad thing that doesn’t affect us is perfect for virtue signaling

I mean, yeah, hunt them down. We can handle more than one priority at a time. But if we had to choose, we’d go with money
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You know not every person with a full time job has a 401k. And yes child sexual blackmail rings do effect us actually.
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Dammit Mandrake! said:
Is the job market bad?
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From what I can see, it's hysterically bad for any job that pays enough to afford a house payment or even half of one.

And I'm not talking about Jew daycare laptop jobs for foids that pay 6 figures. I'm talking about the IT, biz and systems roles that keep the lights on, the banks running and your healthcare provider able to deliver care.

Jeets have hollowed out everything and are finishing the job by telling the board Boomers and C-Suite jeets, foids and fags, that they can cut 90% of the workforce for Claude, prompted by cousin Rahjesh, with no loss of function.
 
Pod 042 said:
You're misremembering how that played out.
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Trump campaigned upon releasing the files. His allies in alternative media spent the prior 5 years salivating over the potential revelations those documents would have and how that would lead to the arrest/execution of various Democrats. Trump gets into office, has a whole celebratory announcement of the Files: Part 1, and then claims that the entire demands to release the Epstein Files was a Democrat hoax.

Such a political blunder allows Democrats to pounce on it and demand a release of the files. Massie, an ideologically motivated politician, votes with them to release the files after a 3 month period for the DOJ to redact sensitive information.

Now we know that the files were slopply redacted, didn't release on time, and did not have the slam dunk evidence of the crimes of a massive cabal of elite pedophiles. However, Trump campaigned on the promise of releasing the files. That's the important part. He could have played it smart. He could have delayed it, hyping it up as wanting to carefully go through all the evidence so that innocent people don't get swooped up in the process. Instead, he said that one of his campaign promises was actually a plot by the Democrats to harm him and his administration.

The ideologues in MAGA, like Massie and Greene, react to this betrayal by forcing the President to uphold his campaign promise regardless of the consequences. And then Trump punishes them for it by using GOP resources to primary them out. He punishes elected representatives because they represented the demands of public rather than the wishes of the executive.
 
Imperial Citizen said:
Trump campaigned upon releasing the files. His allies in alternative media spent the prior 5 years salivating over the potential revelations those documents would have and how that would lead to the arrest/execution of various Democrats. Trump gets into office, has a whole celebratory announcement of the Files: Part 1, and then claims that the entire demands to release the Epstein Files was a Democrat hoax.

Such a political blunder allows Democrats to pounce on it and demand a release of the files. Massie, an ideologically motivated politician, votes with them to release the files after a 3 month period for the DOJ to redact sensitive information.

Now we know that the files were slopply redacted, didn't release on time, and did not have the slam dunk evidence of the crimes of a massive cabal of elite pedophiles. However, Trump campaigned on the promise of releasing the files. That's the important part. He could have played it smart. He could have delayed it, hyping it up as wanting to carefully go through all the evidence so that innocent people don't get swooped up in the process. Instead, he said that one of his campaign promises was actually a plot by the Democrats to harm him and his administration.

The ideologues in MAGA, like Massie and Greene, react to this betrayal by forcing the President to uphold his campaign promise regardless of the consequences. And then Trump punishes them for it by using GOP resources to primary them out. He punishes elected representatives because they represented the demands of public rather than the wishes of the executive.
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Still better than what the Democrats did between 2020 and 2024.
 
Air support said:
This literally would have not been an issue if the DOJ was more transparent. Instead Trump hired pam bondi who more concerned with the DOW Jones than the actual victims.
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Epstein was a fantasy you were sold so actual pedophiles in government could get away with it.
Donald_J_Trump said:
Idk who he is protecting
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Innocent people.

The Files all exonerate Trump. Releasing them were the best thing if Trump was just looking at his own image.

All that's in the files is Epstein's TDS, seething at having nothing to destroy him with, and half the world still interacting with him after his conviction.

Technically all those people have a case over having their privacy violated. It's not a crime to talk to a criminal. Gates has his dirty laundry aired about cheating on his wife with prostitutes and giving his wife VD, which technically illegal isn't usually something the government just releases with out charges. Private associations are being blasted to a radicalized group over a witch hunt. There are laws to prevent this, which is why Massie had to write a law circumventing those protections.

This is all justified over the hysteria and fabrication that Epstein prostituted children, when all the accusers and all the evidence is that he just coerced teenage girls to have sex with humans. I'm not saying that's fine, but it doesn't justify the domination of the subject for the last few years. You Epsteinspergs have a lot of windmills to tilt off the greatest moral crime of the last decade is a dead dude that banged 14-16 year olds. Go tear down Graceland, Elvis married his wife at 14, go punch Mike Tyson in the face, he had a 16 year old girlfriend in England, hell go to war on half the countries in the world that have it as the age of consent. Every Mexican state that borders the US has 12 as the age of consent and I'll be right there with you advocating to bomb them.

But you don't care about that, you're willfully ignorant about it. Your type will address the true facts of the case when backed into the corner, but go right back to talking about the myth as soon as you've had a second to reset to the programming. Because the point of Epsteinsperging isn't the crimes, isn't justice, and sure as fuck had nothing to do with the truth. It's about making a bunch of weak minded people who resent that they feel powerless in the world compared to politicians and celebrities They get to have a fantasy where there is evidence those people are all monsters. If only they sperg out hard enough, those influential people will totally be owned.

And it's all in the service of being a massive distraction to keep those people from having their power taken away.
 
Air support said:
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I can tell you who. It's Podesta. If people spent a tenth the time sperging out over Podesta as you do Epstein something his might actually happen.

But the mainstream media tells you to be mad about Epstein and dismisses Podesta as all about a silly pizza restaurant, and like good little cattle your do what mass media tells to.
 
Imperial Citizen said:
Trump campaigned upon releasing the files. His allies in alternative media spent the prior 5 years salivating over the potential revelations those documents would have and how that would lead to the arrest/execution of various Democrats. Trump gets into office, has a whole celebratory announcement of the Files: Part 1, and then claims that the entire demands to release the Epstein Files was a Democrat hoax.

Such a political blunder allows Democrats to pounce on it and demand a release of the files. Massie, an ideologically motivated politician, votes with them to release the files after a 3 month period for the DOJ to redact sensitive information.

Now we know that the files were slopply redacted, didn't release on time, and did not have the slam dunk evidence of the crimes of a massive cabal of elite pedophiles. However, Trump campaigned on the promise of releasing the files. That's the important part. He could have played it smart. He could have delayed it, hyping it up as wanting to carefully go through all the evidence so that innocent people don't get swooped up in the process. Instead, he said that one of his campaign promises was actually a plot by the Democrats to harm him and his administration.

The ideologues in MAGA, like Massie and Greene, react to this betrayal by forcing the President to uphold his campaign promise regardless of the consequences. And then Trump punishes them for it by using GOP resources to primary them out. He punishes elected representatives because they represented the demands of public rather than the wishes of the executive.
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But he did release the files. They're out. You can go read them.
However, most of them are stuff like "goyim dinner was good." So i understand why people want more spicy things.
 
Polyboros2 said:
I can tell you who. It's Podesta. If people spent a tenth the time sperging out over Podesta as you do Epstein something his might actually happen.

But the mainstream media tells you to be mad about Epstein and dismisses Podesta as all about a silly pizza restaurant, and like good little cattle your do what mass media tells to.
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Podesta and Epstein can both be bad ya know but the real outrage is that Epstein ran a child trafficking ring.
 
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