War Washington Post: U.S. intelligence says Iran can outlast Trump’s Hormuz blockade for months - A confidential intelligence community assessment delivered to the White House also finds that Iran retains a substantial missile and drone arsenal.

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A confidential CIA analysis delivered to administration policymakers this week concludes that Iran can survive the U.S. naval blockade for at least three to four months before facing more severe economic hardship, four people familiar with the document said, a finding that appears to raise new questions about President Donald Trump’s optimism on ending the war.

The analysis by the U.S. intelligence community, whose secret assessments on Iran have often been more sober than the administration’s public statements, also found that Tehran retains significant ballistic missile capabilities despite weeks of intense U.S. and Israeli bombardment, three of the people familiar with it said.

Iran retains about 75 percent of its prewar inventories of mobile launchers and about 70 percent of its prewar stockpiles of missiles, a U.S. official said. The official said there is evidence that the regime has been able to recover and reopen almost all of its underground storage facilities, repair some damaged missiles and even assemble some new missiles that were nearly complete when the war began.

Trump painted a rosier picture in Oval Office remarks on Wednesday, saying of Iran: “Their missiles are mostly decimated, they have probably 18, 19 percent, but not a lot by comparison to what they had.”

Three current and one former U.S. official confirmed the outlines of the intelligence analysis, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

Asked for comment, a senior U.S. intelligence official emphasized the blockade’s impact. “The President’s blockade is inflicting real, compounding damage — severing trade, crushing revenue, and accelerating systemic economic collapse. Iran’s military has been badly degraded, its navy destroyed, and its leaders are in hiding,” the official, who was not authorized to speak on the record, said in a statement. “What’s left is the regime’s appetite for civilian suffering — starving its own people to prolong a war it has already lost.”

Trump, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other officials have consistently presented the war as an overwhelming U.S. military victory, despite Iran’s rejection of Washington’s demands that it abandon nuclear enrichment, surrender its uranium stockpiles, reopen the Strait of Hormuz and take other steps.

Trump called the blockade “unbelievable” on Wednesday. “The Navy has been incredible. The job they did … it’s like a wall of steel. Nobody goes through,” he said.

A day prior, he said Iran’s economy “is crashing,” its currency is “worthless,” and it “can’t pay” its troops.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, touting the president’s sanctions regime, dubbed “Economic Fury,” noted in late April that Iran’s main oil terminal would soon reach capacity, “causing permanent damage to Iran’s oil infrastructure.”

But Iran has proved resilient, despite losing its supreme leader and many other top officials to missile strikes, as well as much of its military hardware.

One of the U.S. officials who spoke to The Washington Post said they thought Iran’s capacity to endure prolonged economic hardship is far greater than even the CIA estimate. “The leadership has gotten more radical, determined and increasingly confident they can outlast U.S. political will and sustain domestic repression to check any resistance” inside Iran, the official said. “Comparatively, you see similar regimes lasting years under sustained embargoes and airpower-only wars.”

Since the war began Feb. 28, Iran has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, a vital channel for shipping oil from the Persian Gulf.

A week after the ceasefire was reached April 7, Trump imposed a blockade on Iran, applying it to all ships entering or leaving Iranian ports. His move followed the collapse of U.S.-Iran peace talks in Pakistan. “I think Iran is in very bad shape. I think they’re pretty desperate,” he said at the time. “I don’t care if they come back [to negotiations] or not. If they don’t come back, I’m fine.”

On Sunday, Trump launched a mission he called “Project Freedom” with a goal to help commercial vessels transit the strait, including with U.S. Navy escorts, only to say Tuesday that the operation had been paused because of “Great Progress” in peace talks.

Iran’s Foreign Ministry confirmed Wednesday that it was reviewing a U.S. proposal to end the war and would relay its response via Pakistani mediators.

Iran’s economy is reeling from the effects of the war, as well as from persistent inflation and economic mismanagement.

White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly said Iran is losing half a billion dollars daily because of the blockade. “During Operation Epic Fury, Iran was crushed militarily,” Kelly said in a statement. “Now, they are being strangled economically by Operation Economic Fury and losing $500 million per day thanks to the United States Military’s successful blockade of Iranian ports. The Iranian regime knows full well their current reality is not sustainable, and President Trump holds all the cards as negotiators work to make a deal.”

But the CIA estimate says Iran can survive the U.S. blockade for 90 to 120 days — and maybe longer — before facing more severe economic hardship, the four people familiar with it said.

Tehran is storing some of its oil aboard tanker ships that otherwise would be empty because of the blockade, one of the people said. It is also decreasing the flows in its oil fields to ensure the wells remain functional. “It’s nowhere near as dire as some have claimed,” this person said of Iran’s economic situation.

The CIA analysis might even be underestimating Iran’s economic resilience if Tehran is able to smuggle oil via overland routes. Truck and rail convoys can’t replace the volume of ships and open sea lanes but might provide an economic cushion, one of the U.S. officials said. “There’s a belief they could begin moving some oil via rail through Central Asia,” the official said.

On the matter of Iranian weapons, the confidential intelligence assessment says that Iran’s inventory of missiles and mobile launchers remains formidable.

Iran is thought to have had roughly 2,500 ballistic missiles before the war began, as well as thousands more unmanned drones. Iran has used those weapons to launch retaliatory strikes against U.S. allies in the Gulf as well as U.S. military sites across the region. A Post visual investigation found that Iranian airstrikes have damaged or destroyed at least 228 structures or pieces of equipment at U.S. military sites in the Middle East, a level of destruction far larger than what has been publicly acknowledged by the U.S. government.

The timeline for when Iran can again start producing ballistic missiles in substantial quantities has shortened, one of the U.S. officials said.

To control traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, however, the missiles matter less than the lower-cost drones, analysts inside and outside the government say. And unlike medium-range missiles that can strike, say, Israel, these drones can be built in small warehouses and easily concealable facilities, another U.S. official said.

“All it takes is one drone to hit a ship and no one will give insurance” to the oil tankers, said Danny Citrinowicz, a senior researcher at the Tel Aviv-based Institute for National Security Studies.

In early April, the U.S. intelligence community assessed that more than half of Iran’s missile launchers were still intact and that it had thousands of one-way attack drones in its arsenal, The Post and CNN reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

Citrinowicz, a former head of the Iran branch in Israeli military intelligence, said that even if the blockade lasted several months, it would not force the regime to bend to Washington’s demands. “The problem is they don’t think they need to capitulate,” he said.

In the end, he said, despite U.S.-Israeli military successes in Iran, the war’s outcome still could be strategic failure.

“What started as a war supposedly aimed at toppling the regime and dismantling its nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities,” Citrinowicz posted Wednesday on X, “may instead leave Iran’s regime stronger than before — empowered by sanctions relief, still retaining significant missile capabilities, continuing support for its proxies, and almost certainly preserving uranium enrichment on its own soil.’’

correction:An earlier version of this article said that Iran still possesses thousands of unarmed drones. The drones are unmanned, not unarmed.
 
The blockade is in China's absolute worst interests. Probably why american democrats and media outlets oppose it so heavily other than 'trump bad'. about half of China's oil imports comes from the strait. They are mostly relying on stockpiles that will run out within months. Most other asian/middle eastern countries have already run out and are having to impose restrictions on infrastructure.
 
Yeah I'm gonna believe the professional propagandists that hate the USA when they say anything.
WaPo publishing anti Orange Man stories based on (supposedly) leaked confidential information from within the Washington intelligence community. Maybe this time it's true but we've seen this playbook so many times it has zero credibility.
 
Did you know that when you choke someone they can outlast you for 3-5 minutes before facing more severe oxygenation hardships?

Checkmate chud
 
I love these articles because they're a litmus test for stupidity. They always assume war is some static thing that doesn't change by the day. Sure, they can last months at the moment, but to what capacity? Do you expect the US to just sit there? How long do they last if Trump goes scorched earth and cripples infrastructure? Today's news is intelligence from 3 weeks ago. Circumstances change. Moves change. What if the US blocks off support from China and Russia? Nothing is static, and if this report is true, it stops being true the moment the US decides it doesn't want it to be. Nobody sits quietly in war.
 
While WaPo is a trash rag that will take any opportunity to bag on Trump. Has the US ever beaten an insurgent enemy? I mean depending how you stretch it maybe Nicaragua, but there were guerillas fighting there for years after Noriega was replaced. I don't think Venezuela really counts, because we didn't fight anyone, just swooped in and arrest Maduro, I haven't kept up, but it's too soon to declare victory there. We beat the Russians with insurgents in Afghanistan.. Che and Castro took Cuba with help from the CIA.. but as combatants, I think we would have to go back to Barbary to see a decisive victory against insurgents, and that was a negotiated truce. Korea, still at war, Vietnam, we pulled out, Afghanistan as soon as we pulled out the Taliban took control, Iraq still has dust ups with ISIS which in no small part was armed by and compromised of Iraqi veterans. Saudi Arabia has been at was with the Houthis for over a decade with US backing and they are happy as clams in their caves, while the government in exile pretend they have any legitimacy in the country they can't enter.
 
A confidential CIA analysis delivered to administration policymakers this week concludes that Iran can survive the U.S. naval blockade for at least three to four months before facing more severe economic hardship, four people familiar with the document said,
In this article I will make up bullshit and say shit that talks about how the walls are closing in on Trump.

This time I will get him. You will see.
lso found that Tehran retains significant ballistic missile capabilities despite weeks of intense U.S. and Israeli bombardment, three of the people familiar with it said.
So... when are they going to use these magical missiles they still have?

I mean, I believe it was Sun Tzu that said: "Hold that shit to use later, nigga!"

Iran retains about 75 percent of its prewar inventories of mobile launchers and about 70 percent of its prewar stockpiles of missiles, a U.S. official said. The official said there is evidence that the regime has been able to recover and reopen almost all of its underground storage facilities, repair some damaged missiles and even assemble some new missiles that were nearly complete when the war began.
Hammers X furiously.

“The leadership has gotten more radical, determined and increasingly confident they can outlast U.S. political will and sustain domestic repression to check any resistance”
"The leadership knows that Democrats are craven cowards who will stop any war just to spite Trump and have even offered money if the Dems just stop the war. Just ask the Senator from Washington State!"

Tehran is storing some of its oil aboard tanker ships that otherwise would be empty because of the blockade, one of the people said.
According to current satellite imagery, Tehran is dumping oil into the sea because the tanker ships are at the bottom of the ocean and they can't afford to cap the wells.
The CIA analysis might even be underestimating Iran’s economic resilience if Tehran is able to smuggle oil via overland routes. Truck and rail convoys can’t replace the volume of ships and open sea lanes but might provide an economic cushion, one of the U.S. officials said. “There’s a belief they could begin moving some oil via rail through Central Asia,” the official said.
The official didn't know that planes and missiles can hit inland targets.

Then he choked on a dick and died.

Iran is thought to have had roughly 2,500 ballistic missiles before the war began, as well as thousands more unmanned drones. Iran has used those weapons to launch retaliatory strikes against U.S. allies in the Gulf as well as U.S. military sites across the region. A Post visual investigation found that Iranian airstrikes have damaged or destroyed at least 228 structures or pieces of equipment at U.S. military sites in the Middle East, a level of destruction far larger than what has been publicly acknowledged by the U.S. government.
This faggoty list probably includes gas cans, old tires, rocks, and separate window panes.

We've seen this kind of bullshit before.

In closing, this article is anti-American bullshit designed to let you think that America cannot defeat anyone while they rub their hands together at the thought of taking down a president.

All journalists are vermin and should be thrown in a wood chipper.
 
While WaPo is a trash rag that will take any opportunity to bag on Trump. Has the US ever beaten an insurgent enemy? I mean depending how you stretch it maybe Nicaragua, but there were guerillas fighting there for years after Noriega was replaced. I don't think Venezuela really counts, because we didn't fight anyone, just swooped in and arrest Maduro, I haven't kept up, but it's too soon to declare victory there. We beat the Russians with insurgents in Afghanistan.. Che and Castro took Cuba with help from the CIA.. but as combatants, I think we would have to go back to Barbary to see a decisive victory against insurgents, and that was a negotiated truce. Korea, still at war, Vietnam, we pulled out, Afghanistan as soon as we pulled out the Taliban took control, Iraq still has dust ups with ISIS which in no small part was armed by and compromised of Iraqi veterans. Saudi Arabia has been at was with the Houthis for over a decade with US backing and they are happy as clams in their caves, while the government in exile pretend they have any legitimacy in the country they can't enter.
RAND did a study on counter insurgency the basic conclusion is once your freedom fighters/terrorists reach the size of about say the Provisional IRA total millitary victory becomes impossible.
 
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RAND did a study on counter insurgency the basic conclusion is once your freedom fighters/terrorists reach the size of total millitary victory becomes impossible.
It's easy to deal with, but for some reason it's a war crime to poison rural wells and exterminate villages supporting the insurgents.

Anyhow the claim that Iran has substantial amounts of missiles left requires proof. Iran has gone from firing hundreds of missiles every day at the start of the conflict to firing 20 or so per day. So either they're simply firing them as fast as they're capable of making them, or they're stockpiling for a mass barrage in case their next supreme leader gets blown to pieces. Former seems more likely than the latter
 
While I wouldn't trust either the cia or WaPo, it's hard to overthrow a regime if the regime doesn't care about their people suffering. Economic pressure won't do much, because as we can see from Best Korea, the leaders manage to eat OK.
Trump has to get this wrapped up in time to not get slaughtered in the midterms, while not inflicting too much damage on the US economy. It's a hard needle to thread.
 
First, this is complete fabrication. WaPo has no reliable sources, cannot possibly authenticate (in any meaningful way) any sources regardless of reliability, and the narrative fits their standard "Trump is always wrong, has never done anything right, everyone hates him, he's powerless, also he's the most fearsome most powerful man on earth who must be stopped at all costs!" bullshit that invalidates itself the moment it's exposed to a moment's thought.

Second, if they really do have "intelligence community members" leaking this sort of stuff, they're playing a dangerous fucking game. Such leakers should be 1) fired, 2) arrested and charged with high treason, 3) prosecuted with intent to seek the death penalty, 4) executed by firing squad upon conviction. The support mechanisms that enable such leakers to betray their nation should also be destroyed and their facilitators/owners/operators given the same treatment as the leakers. There are undoubtedly peers within the "community's" ranks who would delight in narc'ing them out if they knew it'd result in actual punishment.

I'm also getting pretty tired of our government suddenly pretending it can't just "disappear" inconvenient people extra-judiciously and put this kind of bullshit to rest for good. What's that FISA-inspired bullshit called, "parallel reconstruction" or whatever, where they use all manner of illegal surveillance data they already have to actually find the criminal, then work backwards to find "legitimate" evidence that ensures a successful prosecution without revealing the "dirty" evidence? Let's have more of that, please.

I don't want that shit aimed at average citizens. I absolutely do want it aimed at the fuckheads operating inside the government to undermine it. This isn't even a "yay fascism!" thing despite how it sounds. Any government must defend itself, or it will be destroyed from within by no end of cowards, liars, cheats, thieves, raiders, and DNC operatives.
 
Has the US ever beaten an insurgent enemy?
I'm wondering if any regular army has ever beaten an insurgency on foreign soil.

Versus large-scale domestic insurgencies where either the insurgents are obliterated or the insurgents have kids, get married, run for school board, and become normies.

'Cause the US definitively beat the Native Americans. The US Civil War might get me sucked into quibbling about definitions, but most of those dudes went the normie route after the war.

I think about a "Red Dawn" situation a lot and any army invading the US would get smoked.

The best that an enemy power could hope for would be temporary control of railways and freeways, but even that would get iffy in a lot of areas.


In retrospect, that seems like about what we had control of in Afghanistan.

But the powers that be did not like our chances invading the Japanese home islands.
 
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