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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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What do you mean he can't grow my boobs with his mind control have i been lied to?
Grow big tits is maybe the most normal subliminal theme. We're all English here, or, well, debateable, have we not all watched soothouse and have half of the videos memorised? Do I need to bring out the become ariana grande subliminal? Or the meet jimin bts subliminal?
 
Baby Preston update. The jury was discharged on the 23rd and the trial is being restarted. The official reason is that one of the jury couldn't cope with how horrible everything was. The reality is that evidence was introduced that implicated the social workers involved with the case as being hopelessly biased towards the defendants, which was deemed to prejudice the jury as it was a separate prosecutorial path. The social workers were in a WhatsApp group together with the adoptive couple, colluding to discredit the foster mother and any other witnesses or evidence against the defendants, and prior to the trial as well, to deny the foster parents any access to Preston that might have revealed evidence of abuse. Every photo of the child presented to the foster parents was from behind, meaning his face wasn't visible. The last video of him crawling showed he had a broken arm. The prosecution is seeking further charges based on the evidence presented when the trial resumed.

This the case?


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JFC.

One of them performing screaming queen histrionics, while they are trying to save the baby, the other in shock thinking "what the fuck have we done - we're going to prison for this aren't we?". The Odd couple.

Varley denies murder, manslaughter, two counts of assault by penetration, five counts of cruelty to a child, grievous bodily harm, sexual assault of a child, 13 counts of taking indecent photos or videos of a child, one of distributing an indecent photo of a child, to his co-accused, and one of making an indecent photo.

McGowan-Fazakerley denies allowing the death of a child, three counts of child cruelty and one count of the sexual assault of a child.



Neighbour wondered why baby 'cried so much', trial hears​



The neighbour of a couple who are accused over the death of their adopted 13-month-old son after months of alleged abuse has told a court she had wondered why the baby was crying so much.

Jasmine Nuttall said the walls were thin between her house and that of neighbours Jamie Varley, 32, and John McGowan-Fazakerley, 37, who had adopted Preston Davey in April 2023.

Nuttall said she would hear "raised voices" between the couple and "an unusual amount of crying".

Varley is accused of murdering and sexually abusing Preston, and McGowan-Fazakerley, 32, is accused of allowing his death and sexually assaulting him. Both men deny the charges.



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Her father, Michael Nuttall, described Varley as being the "more confident" of the two and "full of himself".

He said he had heard him raise his voice to his partner but never the other way round.
He added: "Preston cried a lot. In fact, I think a one-year-old shouldn't cry as much as that.

"The crying was high-pitched and he did seem distressed."

Michael Nuttall said he did not say anything to them as he did not want to be an "interfering neighbour".



Guess we know which one was the screaming queen and the 'top', and which one was the 'bottom' and the sub, then.

And despite all the crying and shouting -

She described the defendants as "an ordinary, friendly couple" and said she had no concerns about them.

"They seemed happy to have him. It seemed like a really happy little family," she said.

"The news as to what has happened to Elijah has come as a complete shock to me."


Imagine their SHOCK! Coz yeah it's just perfectly normal to hear a child screaming like that even when you think it's NOT normal.

"Elijah would cry a lot and to me and my family it was an unusual amount of crying.

"I would often think to myself, 'Why is the baby crying so much?'"



Death penalty for the 'parents' and abusers. Death penalty for the social workers. Death penalty for the Nutalls (the neighbors), who should have been banging on their front door shouting 'What the fuck are you doing to that baby?'. Is that too much to ask?
 
Palestine Action activists guilty of criminal damage

Four Palestine Action activists have been found guilty of criminal damage at a UK site of an Israel-based defence firm.

Charlotte Head, 30, Samuel Corner, 23, Leona Kamio, 30, and Fatema Rajwani, 21, broke into an Elbit Systems factory near Bristol in August 2024 before destroying property and clashing with security guards and police.

Zoe Rogers, 22, and Jordan Devlin, 31, were acquitted of the same charge by a jury at Woolwich Crown Court earlier.

Corner was also found guilty of inflicting grievous bodily harm after striking Sgt Kate Evans twice with a sledgehammer, fracturing her spine. He was cleared of the more serious offence of causing grievous bodily harm with intent.
Head, Corner, Kamio and Rajwani were denied bail and remanded in custody ahead of sentencing on 12 June.

The jury heard the group, dressed in red jumpsuits, used a decommissioned prison van to crash into security shutters at the Elbit site, armed with tools.

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Whatever they get on the 12th won't be enough.
 
Or my favourite one is when they leave it in a 'safe' place which is normally just on the doorstep.
I once received a large carton. The delivery person brought it into the building and left it in front of my door...but instead of setting the carton on top of the doormat, they picked up the doormat and set it on top of the carton. Mate, I'm grateful you didn't just drop it in the entryway, but it was basically the equivalent of a toddler covering their head with a bath towel and thinking no one can see them. For years it came up on my Facebook memories and I laughed like a drain every single time.
 
They look exactly like what you'd imagine them to
Ginger one on the very left is cute though? Guy in the middle isn't unattractive either.
but it was basically the equivalent of a toddler covering their head with a bath towel and thinking no one can see them.
I don't know where you live. ;) But like that kinda makes sense. Yea no one that's close will see but it'd still hide it from people walking by on the street. Just anything that isn't obviously a cardboard box which it probably wouldn't have been instantly recognisable as. Even a toddler covering their head with a bath towel isn't the worst. If they stay still and in front of a towel rack and if you just needed to go grab something out of there you might not notice. Justice for toddler bath towel hiding, it's not a bad spot it's only obvious because you were playing hide and seek and actively looking for something like that.
 
Death penalty for the Nutalls (the neighbors), who should have been banging on their front door shouting 'What the fuck are you doing to that baby?'. Is that too much to ask?
Yes.
You'd want to put that much responsibility on neighbours who might not be there all the time and have no responsibility as to what goes on outside their house ?
I appreciate this is a passionate topic that raises strong emotions, but you can't seriously be wanting the neighbours to be put to death for not noticing what was going on ? If the neighbours are decent people then they will live with the guilt of knowing what was concealed from them for the rest of their lives. If your laws were to be applied we would live in an even more paranoid society - the surveillance would be at 1984 levels, let alone the number of false accusations "just in case". I think you have to have some faith in humanity ( granted it's difficult in this case ) that the neighbours were sadly oblivious.
 
I found daily court updates via the Manchester Evening News, the reporting goes into more depth than the BBC, leading to details like this little gem on April 29th:

"Ms Wilson says she agreed to help the men clear the house ready to move. However when she arrived they were not there. She called Jamie who said they were too distressed to go to the house. However Jamie asked her to remove the sex toys from the bedroom. He said it would be embarrassing if his mum or sister had to remove them."
"I declined," the witness says.

I've only once witnessed two gay men interacting with their adopted baby, and it seemed to me they treated him more like a new handbag than a very young child needing unconditional love and comfort. Their behaviour unsettled me for a long time.

I hate this modern idea that men and women are merely interchangeable economic units with no fundamental differences in behaviour. My husband is a great parent, but he can't replicate my mothering, particularly when babies are young. Likewise I can't replicate his role as a father, which becomes increasingly important as children get older.

I used to be very liberal and tolerant of homosexuality when I was younger and more naive, but I've never met a gay man or lesbian who had a sane attitude towards the opposite sex. I once had an argument with one gay acquaintance who genuinely thought raising children is no harder than adopting a dog and that being buggered by another man gave him insight into female sexual experience. Sick pervert.
 
Zoe Rogers, 22, and Jordan Devlin, 31, were acquitted of the same charge by a jury at Woolwich Crown Court earlier.
Has anyone seen it explained why these two were acquitted but the other three (not counting the GBH guy) were convicted? Even the pro-PA sites don't seem to be discussing that.
Yea no one that's close will see but it'd still hide it from people walking by on the street
I was living in a tenement in Sco'land. This happened inside the building, at my flat door, so the only people who would have seen it were the students who lived upstairs.
 
I would be okay that, tbh.
I bet you would. :tomgirl:
She looks amazing, she’s in her sixties now and always seems to have nailed the concept of just eating nice things and enjoying life and looking fabulous. I bet she doesn’t stress about calories. Have to say I admire that. Probably not up for the coke, but that’s the London elite for you
he's miles better than that sex pest Nigella.
She does seem to get men rather hot under the collar.
Delia Smith did a bunch of fairly decent cookery books and then stopped. When asked she said there are only so many ways to make a meal and she was done with it.
I like delia. Her books are great, mine are falling apart they’ve been used so much. I think she bought Norwich city football club didn’t she? She clearly just knew when to retire, and quit while she was ahead
Corner was also found guilty of inflicting grievous bodily harm after striking Sgt Kate Evans twice with a sledgehammer, fracturing her spine. He was cleared of the more serious offence of causing grievous bodily harm with intent.
That’s attempted murder,
My husband is a great parent, but he can't replicate my mothering, particularly when babies are young. Likewise I can't replicate his role as a father, which becomes increasingly important as children get older.

I used to be very liberal and tolerant of homosexuality when I was younger and more naive, but I've never met a gay man or lesbian who had a sane attitude towards the opposite sex.
I have to agree and I feel the same. Parents have complementary roles, in the early days babies need their mothers completely. You are literally their life support and they get distressed when separated from you. Of course a good father is good, and increasingly so as kids get older that’s needed, but mothers provide something nobody else can. Fathers do too, they also have input a mother can’t replicate.
Babies are not a fashion accessory. They are not to be bought and sold and the idea a gay couple can just commission a child and take it from its mother is wrong, even if they had no intent to abuse. Adoptees should go to families/ married straight couples and those families should be intensely vetted.
 
I'll have no slander against Nigella. I walked in on a sunday morning and saw her on TV as a boy, and left that room as a man! She made puberty hit me like a freight train.
 
I used to be very liberal and tolerant of homosexuality when I was younger and more naive, but I've never met a gay man or lesbian who had a sane attitude towards the opposite sex. I once had an argument with one gay acquaintance who genuinely thought raising children is no harder than adopting a dog and that being buggered by another man gave him insight into female sexual experience. Sick pervert.
I've noticed that the (few, admittedly) young women I know who've had kids, ranging from 'woke' to 'tolerant', their acceptance of fags and trannies completely vanishes once they've had children. Especially if they've given birth without a C-Section or had medical complications, mentioning 'they have no fucking idea what it's like' unprompted. It's a very funny phenomenon once you spot it; I've successfully peaked a few older women by nudging them to think about their own experiences of sexism, pregnancy, raising kids, and they drop troons after that.

The Met Police have created a specialised team of 100 officers to protect Jews, following 18 million from the government.
The Met said: "British Jews now appear on the hate lists of every major extremist movement: extreme right‑wing groups, Islamist terrorists, elements of the extreme left and hostile state actors. It is a deeply concerning convergence"
Well, Border Police are right there; 18 million for 100 officers sounds like a piss poor exchange rate; I'm also sick of the use of 'far-right and Islamist', mostly because Islamic/religious ideology IS inherently conservative/right wing; and British women and girls DO NOT GET THIS KIND OF PROTECTION. The most we get is that nice tiktok fella who patrols the club streets on his bike and keeps an eye out for men following women.
 
I appreciate this is a passionate topic that raises strong emotions, but you can't seriously be wanting the neighbours to be put to death for not noticing what was going on ?
They did notice though...

[Jasmine] Nuttall said she would hear "raised voices" between the couple and "an unusual amount of crying". [...] "I would often think to myself, 'Why is the baby crying so much?'"
[Her father] added: "Preston cried a lot. In fact, I think a one-year-old shouldn't cry as much as that.

"The crying was high-pitched and he did seem distressed."

Michael Nuttall said he did not say anything to them as he did not want to be an "interfering neighbour".

If your laws were to be applied we would live in an even more paranoid society - the surveillance would be at 1984 levels, let alone the number of false accusations "just in case".
If not a cae of immediately calling the police any time that your hear a baby crying, they said themselves that it was excessive (and then chose to ignore it). Would you not at least ask your neighbour if everything was ok?
 
They did notice though...





If not a cae of immediately calling the police any time that your hear a baby crying, they said themselves that it was excessive (and then chose to ignore it). Would you not at least ask your neighbour if everything was ok?
This story is too grim to really think about tbh. My mind just wants to turn away whenever I see it mentioned.

Even if they asked if everything was OK, would that do anything? Wouldn't they just say "yes, thanks"? As for calling the police, I think personally I'd need to see or hear something a bit more than just hearing a baby crying. I'm not sure what the line is with "distressed" crying. Maybe that lady is applying hindsight, considering what she now knows?

I would be content to punish those actually responsible for baby Preston's care - the two adoptive "parents" (they don't deserve that title), and the authorities - I don't think it extends to the neighbours. I'd be wary of introducing the concept of a guilty bystander. They probably feel awful anyway, and if they genuinely knew what was going on and did nothing, then they will be judged in the hereafter.
 
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