US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Got these today.

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How very true, the people of NYC will pay, and pay, and pay for electing this fuckwagon. Spanberger's even worse, though. Bitch.

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Leo's morally bankrupt, he butt-snorkels dictators just like Pius XII.

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Ya, appreciated that extra $6000 to the standard deduction.

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Believe it or not, President Andrew Johnson said he was Jesus during a drunken speech.
 
Tucker was just calling Trump the AntiChrist and Kent jumped in that same boat.

It's the boat Euros jumped in... Not hard to understand.
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if my friend kept on undermining me and called me the antichrist after i went out of my way to have a meeting with him on short notice multiple times i would feel hurt in my shriveled lizard heart
 
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if my friend kept on undermining me and called me the antichrist after i went out of my way to have a meeting with him on short notice multiple times i would feel hurt in my shriveled lizard heart
There's a schizo on 4chan that went on and on about Trump being the antichrist and he went silent recently. He stabbed his dad a few years ago thinking he was the antichrist.
There was also some chink happa in the Russia thread there that believed that some airbase he lived next to contained the antichrist and he tried to stab the gate guard there but he was shot dead on the spot.

There's a pattern with antichrist schizos so if he genuinely believes that then he's going to stab someone soon.
 
not even. the minstrel show is pure american, it dates from decades before the age of ellis island immigration.
One of my favorite anecdotes from Commodore Perry's 'visits' to Japan was the second one, where both the Japanese and Americans put on cultural displays for each orher. The Japanese put on a sumo wrestling match and the Americans put some sailors in blackface and performed a relatively high production value minstrel show.
There were several performances of minstrel music in Japan in 1854. On March 27, Perry entertained the Japanese commissioners and the officers of the Far East Squadron with an elaborate banquet on board the frigate Powhatan in Yokohama harbor. An abundance of champagne, wines, and liqueurs was served. After dinner, there was a performance. Sailors with woolly wigs, dressed in black-and-white striped coats and ruffled shirts, imitated African American dancing and singing. The band of eighteen to twenty players included a side drum, bass drum, over-the-shoulder helicons, and French horns. It was reported that the audience thoroughly enjoyed the performance, laughing heartily.31
 
The guy with the lake house is totally the reason why you can't afford a house. It's definitely not the 100 million immigrants with federally subsidized mortgages who commit welfare/tax fraud and/or have six-figure do-nothing jobs.

Even if you're talking about investment properties, someone still has to live in them or else they're a massive drain due to property taxes. Fix the root cause instead of engaging in socialist nonsense.
Two things can be true at once.

Illegals have definitely done damage, alongside our government which largely pays for them, but let’s not act like Boomers don’t also use their special voting privileges to increase property values and prevent any further homes from being developed and dropping their shit box’s value. We have a generation with a firm death grip on housing that “knows what they got” and have turned it into their entire retirement plan. The two causes often work in tandem to explain why property has gone insane in terms of pricing. Booms need the illegals to further jack everything up, but they were already largely trying to find ways even without.
 
It really wasn't that long ago that Americans fought against Catholic presidents on the grounds that it would give the Pope too much influence over US policy. Now every other atheist is pretending to give a shit that a Protestant president is telling the Pope to go shit up a rope.
 
One of my favorite anecdotes from Commodore Perry's 'visits' to Japan was the second one, where both the Japanese and Americans put on cultural displays for each orher. The Japanese put on a sumo wrestling match and the Americans put some sailors in blackface and performed a relatively high production value minstrel show.

wow do you realize there are almost certainly Japanese families that still tell this story
 
Their healthcare is better, i'll admit, but ours isn't too bad if you have a decent job.
I don't think it actually is. People act as if "free" automatically equals better. But "free" often means risk averse, slow, or denied care.

Risk averse means they're not going to approve novel or risky therapies even if you want to try them because you don't have other options or want to try something with emerging or newer evidence. For example, new medications, hyperbaric oxygen or certain mitochondrial therapies for cancer, "right to try" in the US etc.
Government health care is looking for slam dunks, not edge cases that aren't guaranteed because they're for one, a strained system, but also don't want to "waste" money on something that is not deemed to be worth the cost based off of their cost benefit analysis.

Slow means sometimes problems are allowed to get worse, or even kill people, due to everyone clogging up the system. Year long wait times (or multi-year) is not unusual in the UK or Canada. That can mean the difference between catching cancer or bowel obstructions or other issues early and them becoming so bad they require more invasive or risky treatments - or it's already too late. I know of people in Canada where there was clearly something wrong but the wait times for an MRI or PET scan were so long the person died while waiting.

Denied care would include situations where resources are already being taken up by other people weighing down NHS, or it's considered "not worth it" to give care and you're left to die. Or in the case of Canada, just offered MAID instead of bothering treating you. NHS this might include putting you on a waiting list hoping you die before they have to do anything.

If you actually look at the US we have some of the best treatment in the world. We have novel therapies (drugs, surgeries, metabolic therapies) that are allowed to find a niche because people who want to pay can get them and multiple payment options not just government insurance. We have some of the best hospitals, best doctors, best surgeons. People travel to the US all the time to get care here for a reason.

People always point towards "you could go bankrupt if you try to get treatment!" but hospitals often have payment plans, cash price, or even a certain number of cases they'll do for free to maintain their status as a nonprofit hospital.

We also have more access to individual led care - primary care providers on the cutting edge who are able to have more freedom by doing direct primary care thus not stuck in the 15 minute appointment model pushed by insurance reimbursement models, out of pocket lab work which can be cheaper than going through insurance anyway, out of pocket scans which can be negotiated down to a cheaper price, etc.

Not to mention newer health share options (religious based or not, both exist) which can offer lower monthly costs for honestly great coverage as long as you're generally healthy.

Dont get me wrong, there's definitely flaws in our system too, and Medicare and medicaid have massive fraud and abuse issues, but at least here you've got options. And because Americans have more disposable income it's more likely you'll have the wiggle room to use some of these options if you want to take advantage of them.

I do mostly out of pocket for everything, barring larger costs like bigger surgeries, and I often pay less than my friends who get the same stuff through insurance. I negotiate cash price or pay out of pocket via direct order companies.

I would not trade my access to American Healthcare for anything. It's invaluable to people looking to take charge of their own health and not just be stuck with what's "approved" and "safe". Or what government insurance decides you should be able to get.
 
Besides, how could you not tell a tornado is coming? Nigga, if it’s windy as fuck and a huge black funnel of death on the horizon, it’s probably tornado weather:
I know you're joking but tornadoes don't automatically incorporate (loud) winds and storms in their run-ups to eat neighborhoods. It's entirely possible to encounter calm skies even with an active funnel tonguing buildings a mile away. If it's after dusk, the only way you can even see a potential funnel-shaped cloud is if there's enough lightning to illuminate it. Often, there isn't any. So you just see "nothing" accompanied by a bit of wind. The only warning you might get (if power's been knocked out or the spotters or TPTB aren't fast enough on the tornado alarm button) is a few gusts of wind and a spritz of rain, and then suddenly trees are flying sideways and your house is in the next ZIP code over.

Sadly most deaths from tornadoes come from people being caught by surprise by the fucking things despite how noisy they're supposed to be. The trick is they only get really noisy when they're actually tearing shit up.

God I hate this performative horseshit. TAKE HIM TO COURT. CHARGE HIM WITH A CRIME. PROSECUTE HIM. Present evidence. Provide receipts. In a criminal court. Upon conviction, impeach/eject him. This "ethics subcommittee" garbage achieves nothing. Literally nothing. Less than nothing, in fact. It wastes taxpayer money.
 
There's a schizo on 4chan that went on and on about Trump being the antichrist and he went silent recently. He stabbed his dad a few years ago thinking he was the antichrist.
There was also some chink happa in the Russia thread there that believed that some airbase he lived next to contained the antichrist and he tried to stab the gate guard there but he was shot dead on the spot.

There's a pattern with antichrist schizos so if he genuinely believes that then he's going to stab someone soon.
All schizos that have christianity as a point of focus always devolve into some kind of doomsday madness where they either kill themselves or someone else in horrific ways, i guess you could say the only exception to this was Terry Davis but he was truly in contact with God and the glowing demons got him.

Schizophrenia is interesting because it behaves differently depending on culture, some eastern cultures experience the voices as being helpful and harmless while the west is more of an issue with the voices and hallucinations being more hostile.
 
Critikal goes off on RFK Jr and the Racoon dick story.

ETA: Towards the end he finally talks about Swalwell too.
 
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I know you're joking but tornadoes don't automatically incorporate (loud) winds and storms in their run-ups to eat neighborhoods
I was just watching videos of Joplin and it's crazy how calm everything is up until it is on people. It looks like a really bad storm of course, but rain wrapped tornadoes are really dangerous because you don't see the magnitude until it's on you cuz it looks like a normal storm cloud. There's this really crazy video of a mom and her two kids in a car who are trying to outrun a storm but then you see a tornado literally just appeared in their back window. some of our own Kentucky tornadoes I have experienced have been very quiet leading up to as well.

God I hate this performative horseshit. TAKE HIM TO COURT. CHARGE HIM WITH A CRIME. PROSECUTE HIM.
But that's not nearly as fun as complaining about it!
 
I don't think it actually is. People act as if "free" automatically equals better. But "free" often means risk averse, slow, or denied care.
The majority of people in the system dont need novel healthcare options. Sure for the 1% with a disease that gets 500 people per decade, but not the vast majority.

Slow means sometimes problems are allowed to get worse, or even kill people, due to everyone clogging up the system. Year long wait times (or multi-year) is not unusual in the UK or Canada. That can mean the difference between catching cancer or bowel obstructions or other issues early and them becoming so bad they require more invasive or risky treatments - or it's already too late. I know of people in Canada where there was clearly something wrong but the wait times for an MRI or PET scan were so long the person died while waiting.
This is objectively true for sure. Though to be fair in the USA neurologist appointments are like a 6 month wait list.

Denied care would include situations where resources are already being taken up by other people weighing down NHS, or it's considered "not worth it" to give care and you're left to die. Or in the case of Canada, just offered MAID instead of bothering treating you. NHS this might include putting you on a waiting list hoping you die before they have to do anything.
American insurance companies do this all the time.

Yes USA healthcare is better if you get a rare disease but otherwise its pretty shit. The fact that unless you're in the top 10% of earners you have to get reduced cost insurance from your job is just shitty. The fact that your insurance can and will dick you around is also shitty.
 
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