US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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sperginity said:
a couple weeks ago I became aware of military analysts (Lt. Col. Daniel Davis and Royal Navy Commodore Steven Jermy) saying the same thing. I don't really care if groypers say it too or not, it doesn't make a difference of it is true or false. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to think it is going poorly.

there is also an MIT professor, who is an expert in missile defense, saying some very pessimistic things about this conflict and specifically about the iron dome system vs iran's missiles. this guy has a track record of pissing off everyone by giving his honest opinion of israel's defenses.

I remember quite well from the wars in iraq & afghanistan what media coverage is typically like at the start of a war. There is always a focus on how cool our weapons are technologically, and also on how we are winning. It is a lot more informative to go to people who do boring interviews about the nuts and bolts of what is happening instead of trying to read the tea leaves of what groypers (or other assorted retards) happen to think.
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It's not going as well as we had hoped (or as well as Israel convinced us it would)
But the idea that we're "losing" is just fucking stupid. This isn't Russia x Ukraine, this is the strongest military in the world versus a bunch of holed up sand people. It might be annoying and take longer than we anticipated, but it isn't going to turn into a multi-year thing.
 
HandsomeDan said:
Im against this Iran war but with all these aircraft lost now, its time to let the B-52s have a turn dropping conventional bombs and get all of this finished.
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I'm a bit of an anti war type, but once the war actually starts, I get pretty bloodthirsty. If we are going in on a country, we might as well go all in. We owe it to ourselves to make sure our violence of action is overwhelming and complete. It limits our loss of life I think.

I could be wrong, i'm a pretty stupid, dumb and retarded idiot, heh.
 
Sammich said:
I'm a bit of an anti war type, but once the war actually starts, I get pretty bloodthirsty. If we are going in on a country, we might as well go all in. We owe it to ourselves to make sure our violence of action is overwhelming and complete. It limits our loss of life I think.

I could be wrong, i'm a pretty stupid, dumb and retarded idiot, heh.
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War is a competition of will as much as anything. The fighting continues as long as both sides are willing to fight. If you can convince them that capitulation, even if it's just to fight another day, is the best move, then you've won the moment. Anyone who tries to wear down our will to win is the enemy. STUDSMCCOOL IS THE ENEMY :jaceknife: lol
 
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pwnest injun said:
War is a competition of will as much as anything. The fighting continues as long as both sides are willing to fight. If you can convince them that capitulation, even if it's just to fight another day, is the best move, then you've won the moment. Anyone who tries to wear down or will to win is the enemy. STUDSMCCOOL IS THE ENEMY :jaceknife: lol
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Dont even address Stud as that youre giving the enemy an identity. Studsmccool is now know as fagsmccuck.
 
Maybe Fatpacks exists to make the ‘Trump is losing’ people look as repulsive as possible so no one can stomach siding with it and has no alternative but to believe in hope?
 
pwnest injun said:
War is a competition of will as much as anything. The fighting continues as long as both sides are willing to fight. If you can convince them that capitulation, even if it's just to fight another day, is the best move, then you've won the moment. Anyone who tries to wear down or will to win is the enemy. STUDSMCCOOL IS THE ENEMY :jaceknife: lol
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As an ancient poet once wrote, the victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so. The question after that to ask is who shall be Carthage and who will be Rome?
 
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