Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Mound Dweller said:
The US made it happen, you can play "I'm not touching you" games all you like, but if the US didn't go full retard with their half baked sandwar fetish the strait would be open, simple as. It's all drumpf's and by extension amerimuttica's fault and nobody is ever going to let you forget it, expect many strongly worded letters.
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And if the Iranian delegation hadn't laughed in the negotiators' faces and bragged about having eleven nukes in a week, America wouldn't have attacked.
We can play this blame game going back decades, but the final conclusion is that radical Islamic terrorism is the source of instability in the Middle East and has been pretty much always been since that sham religion was invented.
 
Airplane ears said:
To be fair, the school was right next to a military base likely intentionally and its destruction was the equivalent of Iran strapping a bunch of infants to themselves and then going "you monster!!!" when you shoot anyway and accidentally hit one.
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It's even better than that, the building was part of the military base just a few years ago and they didn't even move the perimeter wall to put it outside the base until the past 2 years.
 
Mound Dweller said:
??? really ??? I disagree with your :optimistic: so you gotta ??? me over my CIA field manual points ???
Bro, there is no "best time", there is only ever The Time ™️. You can cope and seethe over it not having happened and pilpil over it coming aaaannnnyyy second now all you like, the fact remains that it's a complete damp squib. You can hope all you like, just don't delude yourself into thinking there's actually anything to back it up because there was you'd have found it for me by now :smug:
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The Shah activated his militia on the 14th:


Valiant Heroes of the Immortal Guard,

I salute you for your courage and your sacrifice. In the past three months, thousands of you, in small but effective cells throughout Iran, have created brilliant displays of valor. What you have done will be told for centuries. The Iranian nation will never forget your sacrifice and the price you paid for the liberation of the homeland, above all on the 8th and 9th of January.

I told you that help was on the way. Now that help has arrived.

I call upon you, the bravest and most devoted sons and daughters of Iran, as the nation’s vanguard force, to further wear down and weaken the Islamic Republic’s repressive apparatus, now under heavy blows from the sky, in every way possible, in order to pave the way for its ultimate collapse.

Bear in mind that this is not a call for street demonstrations, it is a call to you, the Immortal Guard, to deliver intelligent and effective blows against the exhausted and worn-down oppressors, so that the path for the millions of the Iranian nation to flood the streets is further cleared.

At the same time, make preserving your own lives a priority, for your presence in the final battle, to protect the onrushing torrent of millions of Iranians claiming their freedom, is vital and indispensable.

You are of the lineage of Rostam and Kaveh, and your enemies are of the ilk of Zahhak. In this battle of good against evil, of light against darkness, you stand on the right side of history, and the hopes and prayers of a great nation see you on your way.

I eagerly await the day when I will stand beside you in the first liberated city of Iran, and together we will seal the final victory.

Long live Iran,
Reza Pahlavi
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ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
And if the Iranian delegation hadn't laughed in the negotiators' faces and bragged about having eleven nukes in a week, America wouldn't have attacked
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That doesn't seem to be what happened, based on statements from Iran and the independent Omani mediator. And America signalling they were willing to commit to further more technical talks in Vienna. And also various voices in the American administration who've raised concerns about Israel getting in Trump's ear.

The only people claiming that's what Iran did is America, and given they brought their admiral along in full naval uniform uninvited until Oman politely asked him to leave, I'm not sure how much I trust that. It's in America's interest to lie about this in order to justify their actions. It's also in Iran's interest to lie, but it's not particularly in Oman's interest to lie and it does seem to be corroborated by American diplomatic overtures prior to their bombing campaign with Israel.
 
David Brown said:
I know you are being sarcastic but there really are people who think this way
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Actually I was being serious. The US is not the one attack global shipping or impeding international waters. People seem to enjoy "rules lawyering" about international law. Well, in this case, Iran is fighting a war with America...by attacking neutral countries. Which i must point out (now I am being sarcastic) is against international law!
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
It's okay, when we clear out the strait of America, they can continue to buy from us, at whatever markup we decide. ;)

What leverage do you think the Europeans have here, exactly?
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Iran is already trying to out-Jew us themselves lol
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AssignedEva said:
That doesn't seem to be what happened, based on statements from Iran and the independent Omani mediator. And America signalling they were willing to commit to further more technical talks in Vienna. And also various voices in the American administration who've raised concerns about Israel getting in Trump's ear.

The only people claiming that's what Iran did is America, and given they brought their admiral along in full naval uniform uninvited until Oman politely asked him to leave, I'm not sure how much I trust that. It's in America's interest to lie about this in order to justify their actions. It's also in Iran's interest to lie, but it's not particularly in Oman's interest to lie and it does seem to be corroborated by American diplomatic overtures prior to their bombing campaign with Israel.
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Oman is (or at least was, prior to all the missiles Iran threw at them) one of Iran's closest partners. I'm not taking either of their words on anything, especially since Iran proved just yesterday how willing they were to lie about the extent of their IRBM program.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
The Shah activated his militia on the 14th:

https://x.com/PahlaviReza/status/2032868341078176183
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Okay that's something at least, something on the tier of Harold Covington proclaiming the Northwest Imperative that is, I don't think appealing to Ahura Mazda is gonna get you too far in a muslamic country but I suppose in 2 weeks we'll see.
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
And if the Iranian delegation hadn't laughed in the negotiators' faces and bragged about having eleven nukes in a week, America wouldn't have attacked.
We can play this blame game going back decades, but the final conclusion is that radical Islamic terrorism is the source of instability in the Middle East and has been pretty much always been since that sham religion was invented.
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I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!
The US made it happen it and nobody can even pretend to pretend otherwise because that's actually a good thing, it's okay, I accept your concession :smug:
 
AssignedEva said:
Oh yeah, it's a stupid place to put a school. On the other hand if you're an evil regime looking to emotionally manipulate your citizens, it's a very clever place to put a school and hitting it has netted Iran a massive PR victory against the "evil aggressors".
That's why I'm mostly mentioning it in regards to a strategic blunder. You need to put your personal morals to the side and consider Realpolitik in these scenarios.
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i don't know if it's really that stupid. non-rhetorical, non-agenda question, but don't we have a number of schools *on* our military bases for children of the enlisted? army brats and the like?
 
Mound Dweller said:
Doesn't matter bro, if there was gonna be an uprising it would've happened by now, anybody got any uprising? Anybody got any news in this news thread about an uprising? any uprising news? no news about any uprising? oooof.
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The Shah is en route to Teheran and his Immortal Guard is already in the process of removing the last vestiges of Ayatollah's regime from Iran Persia with the blessings of the citizenry. Trust the plan.

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Star Platinum said:
i don't know if it's really that stupid. non-rhetorical, non-agenda question, but don't we have a number of schools *on* our military bases for children of the enlisted? army brats and the like?
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Stfu you antisemite
 
CaptainAutism69 said:
Not sure why people are trying to big up the Shah as the next leader of Iran. Nobody there wants him... they remember what his father was like.
Ajax was a massive mistake.
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There was an effort post a few days ago getting into how things have gotten so bad under the current regime that even sects that used to hate the Shah are now willing to at least work with him because they so desperately just want anyone else in charge.
 
Decapitated Nigger Baby said:
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Translation from zog to human: if the country we jumped doesn't stop doing what we don't like we'll fuck up their civilian infrastructure and cause another wave of migration to europe. Thank you for your attention to his matter. Resident Zogbot J. Retard
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I thought hitting power plants is a war crime or something... well it was a few months ago when Russia did it...
 
David Brown said:
In all seriousness, I'm sure this whole thing will blow over by the end of the week. The Iranian Navy has been obliterated several times. They have not a single missile left and their airspace is utterly uncontested. We have achieved our victory conditions in every way, and without a single American casualty. It's only the pussy ass shipping vessels that won't just do their job and move product. Honestly Trump should start ordering the Air Force to start bombing the shipping vessels so they learn who is boss and find out what a real threat looks like.
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I really, really hope you're right. Sadly I don't think you are.
 
AssignedEva said:
It makes contracts harder to obtain. The contracts still go to the highest bidder (although longer distance shipping and shipping being more expensive will also be priced in to the down supply chain).
If oil is $120 a barrel, it's $120 a barrel for Americans too.
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You are misunderstanding the reality of the situation.

The United States is self sufficient in affordable energy and has been since 2019. Europe is starved of affordable energy and has been since 2022.

If things get really bad, the United States will still have its own sovereign energy resources under American control, and much lower energy costs in general. Europeans are highly dependent on foreign imports and their industries were already dying since the end of cheap Russian gas. So Americans will still have fuel, while Europeans get rationing and economic failure to go along with their millions of Muslim welfare cases.

That's why it was very silly of the Euroweenies to not at least send a token force to Hormuz. They'll regret that, however the war turns out. The United States is the only powerful ally they had, and they've just refused to help their most important defense benefactor keep open an international sea lane that is vital to Europe.
 
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