Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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MetokurGroomedMe said:
Graphite Bombs cause the local generation to short-circuit by filling the air with carbon fibers, it doesn't cause surges like that, it's designed specifically to allow the infrastructure to be easily repaired later on.
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Yeah well, the thing is that these things called nuclear power plants? They kinda need some cooling in the core. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
 
Ghostse said:
Please explain to me why 20% of the world's oil being disrupted would cause a 300% increase in prices.
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It's even more retarded when you consider closing the straight doesn't make that 20% disappear, it just takes a bit longer. Saudi Arabia has massive rerouting methods for this exact scenario.

Foley said:
Yeah well, the thing is that these things called nuclear power plants? They kinda need some cooling in the core. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
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The cooling and regulators are run by local backup diesel generations localized within the reactor. The graphite bombs wouldn't effect those, they only effect the grid. That said... this assumes the backup generators are fueled and running which means they're up to date on inspections and such but we all know how browns are 🤔
 
Foley said:
Yeah well, the thing is that these things called nuclear power plants? They kinda need some cooling in the core. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
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Good idea, bad idea. We're all going to find out by Monday either way
 
Foley said:
Yeah well, the thing is that these things called nuclear power plants? They kinda need some cooling in the core. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
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iran has none currently operating
 
Foley said:
Yeah well, the thing is that these things called nuclear power plants? They kinda need some cooling in the core. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
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And coal has a reputation for not burning out quickly.

I guess we'll get to see some coal turbines fly apart this week. I'm down.
 
Foley said:
Yeah well, the thing is that these things called nuclear power plants? They kinda need some cooling in the core. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
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Who the hell is talking about anyone hitting the nuclear plant? Why would we not strike Iran's NatGas plants first? They generate only about 2% of their electricity through nuclear, but 85% through natural gas. In what world do we bother with the Nuclear Plant before the natural gas plants?
 
MetokurGroomedMe said:
It will be interesting to see if we go hard on the Houthis. We've been giving them leeway BECAUSE we didn't want Iran to get pissy about its proxies being destroyed, so I wonder if we'll start striking them in their mountain bases.
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If the Houthis prevent Saudi tankers from exiting the Red Sea, I wouldn't be surprised if the Saudis and the GCC re-invade Yemen.
 
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That is the most perfect retweet reply I've ever seen.
 
JayseeDenton said:
The cooling and regulators are run by local backup diesel generations localized within the reactor. The graphite bombs wouldn't effect those, they only effect the grid. That said... this assumes the backup generators are fueled and running which means they're up to date on inspections and such but we all know how browns are 🤔
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This was kinda the point I was trying to make
 
Foley said:
. Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity,
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They have power in the form of backup diesel generators. The graphite bombs will affect the high-voltage lines used on the distribution side of the plant. I find it unlikely they will topple the ~480v backup power that is running on a parallel circuit.
I'm not going to look up the exact plant they have, but I'm going to assume that it has a natural-circulation mode if the pumps lose power completely. That and the used-fuel pools will have enough water for days to weeks of passive cooling without any on-site power.
 
Burnt Fish said:
And even putting all of that aside such a Feint would never actually work still because again I think folks need to pull out their maps and remember where Kharg Island is, it's in the gulf, well beyond the straight itself. We aren't moving our warships through the straight and risking them being hit, and even if we were willing to do that, you're not going to pull of a sneak feint with it because Iran would just see the massive warship moving into the area (our Amphibious assault ships are the same size as the French carrier in the region)
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I wonder if the plan is to bring the troops in under escort through the Strait and hope that the Navy's and Air Force's anti-aircraft/anti-drone and anti-missile defenses can temporarily stop any Iranian attempts to prevent them from crossing? It's a big gamble because if the Iranians somehow luck out and sink one of our vessels, it'll be a major coup for them.

I assume that Trump will take Kharg and then offer the Iranians use of the island in return to opening the Strait of Hormuz to all vessels.
 
ChooChooChooseMe said:
Couldn't Trump just be implying we have another Stuxnet in place on the power plants and he's just waiting to give the signal to unleash it? You know, instead of blowing it to smithereens.
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Yes, he could. But graphite bombs would not blow anything to smithereens. They cause the power plant to short out across the entire facility.

Good use of a fantastic word by the way, haven't seen Smithereens in a long time.
 
tinnit said:
They have power in the form of backup diesel generators. The graphite bombs will affect the high-voltage lines used on the distribution side of the plant. I find it unlikely they will topple the ~480v backup power that is running on a parallel circuit.
I'm not going to look up the exact plant they have, but I'm going to assume that it has a natural-circulation mode if the pumps lose power completely. That and the used-fuel pools will have enough water for days to weeks of passive cooling without any on-site power.
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Yeah, they're not going to blow up the nuclear plants and cause an environmental disaster. They'll just blow up all the power lines adjacent to them.

If the Iranians decide to lob missiles at Gulf desalination and power plants in return and the US doesn't somehow defend them from that, I'd be pissed off as a Gulf sheikh. Why are we doing this petrodollar thing again if we aren't getting adequate protection from the Americans?
 
Foley said:
Taking out the electricity from the plant that shuts down the cooling for the core when it's operating at full capacity, sounds like not a great idea.
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Do you really think they spent billions of dollars building the Iranian equivalent of a space elevator and nobody involved ever thought "what if the power goes out"?
 
tinnit said:
They have power in the form of backup diesel generators. The graphite bombs will affect the high-voltage lines used on the distribution side of the plant. I find it unlikely they will topple the ~480v backup power that is running on a parallel circuit.
I'm not going to look up the exact plant they have, but I'm going to assume that it has a natural-circulation mode if the pumps lose power completely. That and the used-fuel pools will have enough water for days to weeks of passive cooling without any on-site power.
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Its a (West) German design that was finished by the Russians, plus two new Russian-designed reactors. Its been shutdown before when the main cooling pump failed catastrophic failure and put metal into the cooling loop.

My first most likely guess is that Trump and/or the jews bomb something that isn't the plant but near by as a demonstration of "We could if we wanted".

Second most likely would be bombing something transmission related. Whack the substations & transmissions infrastructure so the plants have no way to put their power on the grid.

Third most likely would be hitting something that would require the plant shut down but provide ample time to do so; that is, pumping infrastructure. This is EXTREMELY unlikely; especially given Iran's airdefense is completely Buck Broken, Trump would very certainly "call the shot" before he did it so Iran (or more accurately the Russian nukees in Iran) could get the reactor ready for a rapid shutdown.

There is sadly almost chance zero Trump has the airforce puts a MOAD on the reactor core and cover Iran in nuclear fallout.

tl;dr: Trump is not going to bomb an Iranian nuke plant on a Monday. If it was Friday we might need to worry.
 
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