i will never understand the logic of "i know what'll stop them from calling me the thing i hate being called, i'll TELL THEM i hate being called that! that'll get them to stop!"
it's a brown brown brown brown world for them.
I would also claim that all the wars in the ME over the past 25 years have benefitted israel more than the US.
i will engage honestly with you because you're not just shitflinging.
yes, it is obvious that any wars against muslim powers in the middle east will benefit israel immensely, because the muslims literally hold the idea that they need to genocide the hebrews, just like they hold the idea that they need to genocide christians. i know you don't want to discuss the religious parts of it, but iran is a theocracy. hamas is a theocracy. most muslim nations are theocracies in their own governments. they believe in at least some form of sharia law, and enforce it as such.
one of those things about sharia law is that there CANNOT be unbelievers. you either kill them, convert them, or make them pay a hefty tax, the jizya. islam is a religion that converts by the sword. any country that is run by
Islamists is by its very nature, anti-christian. you cannot separate it. they will, as they have chanted many times, attempt as hard as they can to bring death to America, the Great Satan, because we are a symbol of the west to them. we are a symbol of christianity, and non-muslim ideals. as a literal theocracy, with a RELIGIOUS CLERICAL MILITARY WING in the IRGC, Iran is a state whose goal is to bring muslim supremacy into the world.
they have attempted, for DECADES, to obtain a nuclear weapon that they can use to either deter any outside aggression as they intensify terrorist operations, or simply use as an actual WMD on either israel or maybe us if they had an ICBM by the time their uranium is enriched. controlling the world's largest terrorist groups for the last 25 years, some of which are OUR fault, is important not just because MUH JOOZ or whatever, and as much as jewspergs will hate this, yes, Israel buys a SHITLOAD of ordinance from the US, and shares a huge amount of data with us from all their military operations against the sandlanders. they are, while they have stumbled many times, an ally just as willing to help out with things in their regions as europe used to be. you can kikesperg about it (not necessarily you, anyone) but it's true, and the data is factually present. you can look up what they share, and how much they buy.
no matter what we do in the middle east, no matter how much it is for our own goals, IT WILL BENEFIT ISRAEL. there is no way around it unless we intentionally bomb israel just for parity's sake. killing muslims, weakening muslim strongholds, will inherently be beneficial to israel. they are one of the two major groups that the muslims as a whole who run the middle east would like to either kill, or in recent years, simply exist neutrally alongside. this particular thing leads us into how iran has been pushing groups like hezbollah and paying for hamas in the middle east, but that's not why we're striking them. israel has hezbollah and hamas fairly well in hand already, which is why they're the ones striking those groups when necessary, and america's strikes have all been concentrated on iran, or where we believe a specific iranian official might be.
i have a lot of personal grievances with israel, including not believing that they did enough to make up for the USS Liberty. i do not, however, think one incident trumps all the utter bullshit that iran has pulled on us, starting with the embassy kidnapping under carter, and continually escalating from there as has been outlined a few times before, especially regarding their funding of terrorist cells.
in the end, i do not care for Israel any more than i care for England. the difference is, when called, israel will show up and bomb muslim terrorists who have consistently, insistently, and openly fucked with us, and britain will not, as evidenced here. one is clearly a better ally than the other, even if they have secondary goals in any middle eastern war we fight. when i believe israel is operating in a way that is against the US's best interests, i am very vocal about it. unfortunately for kikespergs, it's in almost EVERYONE'S best interest to kill the towelheads in iran because they are unruly, violent, and willing to make international trade trouble in ways the saudis are not willing to do anymore.
And you are the bigger retard for expecting something out of Europe. Tell me honestly why did you think Europe would have done something?
i am willing to admit, i should have known better than to think that our allies were actually our allies, i agree. but that doesn't really make me hate them any less, it makes me hate them more for having been willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
They didn't.
>Look at these eurofags they are so pathetic they don't do anything
>Why the fuck didn't the eurofags do anything?
Like what did you expect? To be proven wrong?
i was hoping to be, yes. excuse me for having a little bit of hope left in me!
but again though, it's the punk test. it's the last straw. it's the moment of 'okay. we actually asked you to put up or shut up, and you shut up.'
i'm just letting my major frustrations over the past several years of european inadequacy out on the muhammads in the thread who pretend to be european. honestly, i knew they wouldn't be willing to, but that doesn't change the fact that it's an outrage they won't. it just means i'm not surprised.