Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[Getting Tard Comed Jr]

I know the Iranian conflict is almost 2 weeks in now, but why are some people dooming at this stage? USA casualties haven't even entered two digits yet as far as I read (eight). Still terrible to have death but compared to the 2k+ Iran is dealing with? Yeah.

People are dooming because they don't believe the news coming out of the US + Isreal. We've spent the last 5 years minimum if not 10+ years talking about how they news is fake and lying to you and everyone thinks they are telling the truth now? During a military operation where it is expected to lie and hide information?

Iran is reporting the US Is asking for a ceasefire and they are refusing. "Hurr durr, thats bullalshit, they dont have a military" and other retarded noises is the response without thinking about if they actually did not have the ability to project force and did not see a way to get what they want, why are they continuing to fight? The US has made planetimage delay current satellite images of Iran to 14 days. They did this 2 weeks in and the excuse is to protect US/coalition sites. 2 weeks in after bombing them and "taking out their military" we need to censor public information that could verify if the US is telling the truth or not to protect assets the US has told us Iran isn't capable of striking. At least one THAAD system has been taken out of commission. That is 1 of 8 in the world with unverivied reports that 4 of the 8 have been destroyed. Yeah, there is reason to doubt the official story and this site calls anyone not going along with what the liars who lie say as dooming.

 

[Viriatus]

....... Have we reached peak clown world yet ?

 

[The Great Ducktator]

the us afghan government fell apart while the iraqis became wholly iraqi and is asking us to leave because they're self sufficent. so yeah, they are different.

Technically, the Afghan government also became wholly Afghan.

....... Have we reached peak clown world yet ?

Trump is trying to fix real world problems with words. It's like telling people the roads are clear, they have never been better, commuters just need to show some guts in a blizzard instead of sending the road crews.

 

[Leylon Sneed]

pot shots at us.

Those damn drones and scud missiles they keep tossing over our Southern Border. Full of Guatamalans and Venezuelans.. and Nicaraguans.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

the Afghan government also became wholly Afghan.

afghans are literal retards

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Orange Man giving some nice talking points for the USA INVINCIPLE crowd...the USA get's richer when oil prices go up.

Forget the cost to the normal person, and small businesses...

 

[Getting Tard Comed Jr]

Russia doesn't have any THAAD equivalent, but they have deployed their entire S-400 stock either in moscow or around Ukraine.And you aren't saying anything about that for the four year war making them weak or that it isn't going well.

Why the fuck would Russia being weak have anything to do with the US overstepping its bounds and lying. This is the most womanly, bitchy response possible. You need me to say Russia is weak in order for you to accept what is actually happening right now. Ok, Russia is weak, the country has gained territory slowly and methodically for the last four years against the entire west and they are weak.

And Iran does not have time on its side. They are running out of water and summer is right around the corner.

What makes you think this? That a desalination plant got bombed in a county that gets less than 15% of its water from desalination plants while 75% of it's water comes from rivers, lakes, dams, and underground reservoirs? Did you even bother to do a Google search of water sources for Iran before saying this dumb shit?

Trump and the Jews could leave right now and just let the country tear itself apart as desperate people riot.

Great, then why don't they? Because Isreal would be wiped out and Iran remains in control of 20% of global shipping. The WSJ is reporting Iran is shipping more oil out of the Strait of Hormuz now than they were before this war started. The Strait we've been told the US is escorting ships through, sorry that got walked back. It's the strait Lloyd's List has said isn't safe so shipping companies cannot find an insurance company to insure their trip through the strait.

Be all for Trump and the USA and MAGA, but they are missing on you and calling it rain and you are drinking it up.

 

[JeanRob1]

What makes you think this? That a desalination plant got bombed in a county that gets less than 15% of its water from desalination plants while 75% of it's water comes from rivers, lakes, dams, and underground reservoirs? Did you even bother to do a Google search of water sources for Iran before saying this dumb shit?

By saying this, you just proved you don't know anything about the Iranian situation. The water crisis is happening for years now. It doesn't have anything to do with war, and everything with the retardation of the Islamic Regime, and it's one of the reasons the protests are going that strong.

 

[Boney]

Did you even bother to do a Google search of water sources for Iran before saying this dumb shit?

Holy fucking shit. Walk out of the room before you embarrass yourself any more.

 

[Gas Snake]

The WSJ is reporting Iran is shipping more oil out of the Strait of Hormuz now than they were before this war started.

Huh, I wonder why Iran would be exporting as much of their oil as they possibly can? It's almost like they're... running out of time or something?

 

[Nick Wilde]

....... Have we reached peak clown world yet ?

Surely the world's most powerful and technologically advanced military must have some sort of weapon which can shoot down drones? And could send ships, possibly aircraft, armed with this weaponry to this location? That way they could escort shipping and solve the problem.

Are they just pussies or is it because there is no such weaponry and half the US Navy would get sunk by cheap shitty RC planes?

 

[Queen Aleena]

Surely the world's most powerful and technologically advanced military must have some sort of weapon which can shoot down drones? And could send ships, possibly aircraft, armed with this weaponry to this location? That way they could escort shipping and solve the problem.

Are they just pussies or is it because there is no such weaponry and half the US Navy would get sunk by cheap shitty RC planes?

It's more likely there needs to be observable evidence of what Iran will try to do to ships. We have intel, spy networks and that kind of thing but this only tells us the possible options. If there's data to analyze because Iran actually attacked somebody that's way more useful.

I also don't put it past the American military to give some ship they don't care about the green flag and see what happens to it, the FBI already does that domestically with cops for example.

 

[The Fourteen Words of ZOG]

Yeah, there is reason to doubt the official story and this site calls anyone not going along with what the liars who lie say as dooming.

This thread is such a strange bubble. It has nothing to do with reality or even with the rest of the site. I remember Null being surprised how pro-war it is and he is correct. We have actual Israelis here posting IDF propaganda so I guess we should not be surprised. It is the most unpopular war in the history of the United States but somehow the mouth droolers in this thread try to sell it as based. What is today's cope on how we are somehow winning this war?

Cherry on top: The shills here will neg rate all the normal posts yet lose their fucking minds when you do the same to them.

 

[Ghostse]

On the subject of drones, IRGC & Basij are now hiding under bridges & overpasses in hopes of not getting droned to death, they appear to have thrown up a portable HQ under this one overpass.

This is what winning looks like.

Pretty sure the cardboard cutout and voice-only calls are doing the heavy lifting on that one, man.

It's not like if they show him sitting at a desk in front of a flag the CIA will crawl out of the camera and nuke him, his complete absence is incredibly weird unless he's either A) severely injured and showing him would fuck up the regimes resolve, or B) dead.

Counter point: The team that was puppeteering Biden's corpse is out of work currently, and clearly they'll do whatever for money.

Anyway, back on topic: new message from Pahlavi, continues urging Iranian dissidents to stay home (especially avoiding any buildings which might be used by the Islamists as a base) and warns that it still isn't go time yet because there are still a lot more dronings in the streets to be done I guess. Also calls upon regime bureaucrats to stop showing up to work & shift allegiances, put their resources to work on the side of the dissidents.

Reza... no Reza. What are you doing. We're going to be plagued by retarded brown BROOCSers going "BuT wHeRe ArE tHe PrOtEsToRs?!" for two more weeks now as they ignore this literal statement from the Jew puppet figure head of the movement to overthrow the IRGC. What are you doing? No. #notmyshah

The White House posted a Wii-themed edit on the war against Iran.

Kinda cringe but "Hole-in-One" got me fucking rolling not gonna lie.

Spoiler: Off topic Russia sperging

I personally stay wary of KIA and casualty numbers posted by both sides as they're never accurate when a war is still ongoing. Pretty sure the best estimate so far is 185,000 Ukrainians KIA with 180,000 Russians KIA. Explanation for the small gap is probably the early Russian successes in 2022 and the very recent ones in October-December 2025. The real numbers are probably very different as this doesn't factor in things like people marked as MIA when they're actually dead and shit like that so the best estimate available isn't even that good.
An argument can be made that Russia is, proportionally speaking here, putting in less effort than Ukraine but this comes down to the logistical limitations with how many men, AFV's, etc you can put on the current line of combat contact alongside the fact that they have to spare forces to garrison areas in Siberia and the borders with NATO member states. Political stability also probably plays a role since the entire RuAF being in Ukraine looks like really bad and would increase their casualties several times over for minimal benefits.

Spoiler: SPERG

Oh obviously both nations are corrupt slavic hellholes and both their MOD releases are pure copium. Russia has destroyed something like 8x the number of delivered hulls, Ukraine pushing 10 miles into Russian Iowa put them on Moscow's doorstep.
But there are 300,000+ provable Russian obits due to the war and that's not counting that Russia, unlike the US, will "MIA" someone for months or years with no notification of the family.

But Russia "second strongest army" getting bogged down by a nation 1/5th their size is proof of how Russia is super strong and mighty as their armored divisons roll out in 1960s tanks and their mechanized divisions are now down to gulf carts and minivans. But 7 Americans die when an Iranian drone gets lucky, and its now all over for the US.

 

[Exegesis]

Oh obviously both nations are corrupt slavic hellholes and both their MOD releases are pure copium. Russia has destroyed something like 8x the number of delivered hulls, Ukraine pushing 10 miles into Russian Iowa put them on Moscow's doorstep.
But there are 300,000+ provable Russian obits due to the war and that's not counting that Russia, unlike the US, will "MIA" someone for months or years with no notification of the family.

But Russia "second strongest army" getting bogged down by a nation 1/5th their size is proof of how Russia is super strong and mighty as their armored divisons roll out in 1960s tanks and their mechanized divisions are now down to gulf carts and minivans.

Spoiler: More sperging

The initial failure of the "SMO" came from the monumental hubris that the RuAF high command had but late 2022 and the entirety of 2023 forced them to change shit up as Putin would've probably had these dudes hanged if they kept fucking shit up. The changes made in command and doctrine have proved to be successful for them given the acceleration after Avdiivka and Vuhledar fell.
But again, I would say that Russia is unable to take full advantage of their numerical superiority due to logistical limitations with how many men they can reasonably have active on the current line of combat contact and so they rely heavily upon more frequent troop rotations and (more recently) doing several small scale border incursions into Sumy and Kharkiv to divert Ukraine's limited resources. This is helpful but it's nowhere near as good as actually having 1.5-2x more men active on the LOC at the same time. Combine this with the absolute fuck ton of trenches, fortifications, and recon drones in Eastern Ukraine/Donbas and either side even gaining more than 30 square kilometers of land in a day becomes impressive.
As far as I can remember, I'm pretty sure Russia and Ukraine tend to maintain roughly the same amount of men active on the LOC at any given time.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

This thread is such a strange bubble. It has nothing to do with reality or even with the rest of the site.

 

[AndSothisIsChristmas]

This thread is such a strange bubble. It has nothing to do with reality or even with the rest of the site. I remember Null being surprised how pro-war it is and he is correct. We have actual Israelis here posting IDF propaganda so I guess we should not be surprised. It is the most unpopular war in the history of the United States but somehow the mouth droolers in this thread try to sell it as based. What is today's cope on how we are somehow winning this war?
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Cherry on top: The shills here will neg rate all the normal posts yet lose their fucking minds when you do the same to them.

Very based, measured, and objective of you, Mr. Fourteen Words of ZOG.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

This thread is such a strange bubble. It has nothing to do with reality or even with the rest of the site. I remember Null being surprised how pro-war it is and he is correct. We have actual Israelis here posting IDF propaganda so I guess we should not be surprised. It is the most unpopular war in the history of the United States but somehow the mouth droolers in this thread try to sell it as based. What is today's cope on how we are somehow winning this war?
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Cherry on top: The shills here will neg rate all the normal posts yet lose their fucking minds when you do the same to them.

Get the fuck out of theforum, you stupid fucking touriet.

 

[Gas Snake]

This thread is such a strange bubble. It has nothing to do with reality or even with the rest of the site. I remember Null being surprised how pro-war it is and he is correct. We have actual Israelis here posting IDF propaganda so I guess we should not be surprised. It is the most unpopular war in the history of the United States but somehow the mouth droolers in this thread try to sell it as based. What is today's cope on how we are somehow winning this war?
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Cherry on top: The shills here will neg rate all the normal posts yet lose their fucking minds when you do the same to them.

Declaring that the USA is losing this war after 2 weeks of uninterrupted carpet-bombing and 50+ critical assassinations is exactly as retarded as the Bloodfeasts hooting and hollering every time a sandnigger gets blown up by a missile.

 

[Ghostse]

I’m by no means a military man, so I’d like to know if there’s a good reason for this. Why is the bombing focus now on the police checkpoints and other impediments to insurgency rather than eliminating the defenses of the Strait of Hormuz so our tankers can get through? I’d be happy to see a successful popular uprising in Iran, but freeing the Strait seems most important for America and its interests, especially on the home front. Why aren’t they doing that first?

Its not an either or. And, in theory at least, if the US nukes all the regime check points and just completely destroys their grip on the country then the protestors will take over and the strait is secured.

It's just somebodies sock account. Guess which person is the topic of every one of their posts?

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If you got all of your information from /pol/ and X, places filled to the brim with third worlders and muslims, you would believe the same things that this retard does about the war.

Rent. Free.