Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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milkcat25 said:
I do not believe it. I also am taking any reports of "60% to 90% of Iran's launchers are gone" as a complete lie. They aren't going to come out and say how much they intend on destroying, or what's left while the war is literally going on right now.
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Look at the missiles launched. When your ability to launch missiles is actively being destroyed, number go down, you do not withhold what firepower you do have and only fire 15 missiles, if you have hundreds or more. You fire everything you can as fast as you can in the hopes of doing as much damage as possible. I am not going to save my rockets when I'm actively losing the ability to launch them, that makes no sense. The worst situation Iran could possibly end up in, would be to have munitions but no way to deliver them.

It's like a dungeon crawler right? If you ever played Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, you'll set target for weapon skill like LEVEL 15 and turn of all other skills, because your real way of surviving is killing first. If you can't kill first, things like conservation of resources or defense are pointless. You'll just die.

All these ideas that Iran has something up their sleeve goes against basic tactical thinking. What good is the ace up your sleeve in a grave?
From a rational perpsective they should be firing everything they have off as fast as they can. The time is now.
 
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
Yes, Stud believes production is bottlenecked.
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its like you guys read every third word

WHERE DO YOU GET THE RARE EARTH METALS FROM?

Im not trying to be obtuse id really like if you guys engaged with my point instead of just insisting everything is just made of steel and electrical wires like its ww2
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
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The IAF are flying in Iran but if you look:

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They're fueling in Iran too. That's a tanker.
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Would be nice if we got more videos of planes like this instead of mainly quick, fuzzy killcams and launches from ships. Maybe we can have a plane firing a munition as a special treat. We can get that without giving away vital information, yes?
 
Mound Dweller said:
Not anymore lol, they're solidly in the US sphere now.
TL;DR Rusgolistan was too busy with 4 year long 2 week special operation to bail their asses out over Nargono-Karabakh, so a few months ago they... gave it up, they're cut-loose, Azeris have a free hand to do what they want but they're still run by the son of the KGBn'wah who took over post Soviet times, so... probably not much.
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They're hedging their bets, which is what got them in this mess in the first place (2018 revolution). It's retarded to try to and play footsies with two antagonistic great powers at once - the other side will prioritize their long-term partners who have irreconcilable differences with you, and your own historical patron will now no longer trust you. You lose what little leverage you had. To be fair, the people probably didn't have much say in it, seemed like a standard 'revolution'. Pashinyan is hated, being the main reason that Russia began to withdraw from Armenia, resulting in the complete humiliation of the country.

A bit mystified over the idea that Ukraine is the reason Russia didn't help them. The Second Nagorno-Karabakh War ended in 2020 with complete Armenian humiliation. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022. The breakdown in relations began in 2018 due to the overthrown of the Kremlin-friendly government, and the later conflict was just the killing blow to an already critically weakened country. Now they basically have a puppet government and are the red-headed stepchild of the Caucasus, being the last of the three to align with the West, living under the table and subsisting off of table scraps. Very sad, honestly. Classic Scylla moment - a wise ruler makes use of a traitor but never trusts one.
 
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
News update:
A senior military official on Iranian state television: Iran has not closed the Strait of Hormuz, but ships with ties to Israel or the U.S. will not be able to pass through.

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Posters:

Soon, it will be Shabbat and @Catch The Rainbow will be offline, so you niggas will be stuck with me.
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Or any sign of assistance, even an abandoned ship.
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The US urges not to send back the rescued Iranian sailors and to keep them detained.
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The Big A said:
You gotta hand it to the brilliant prime minister in Yerevan, he had quite the plan:

1. Kick Russian peacekeepers out of Nargono-Karabakh
2. Appeal to the Biden Administration to help them against an Israeli ally
3.????????????????????
4. Become an Azeri puppet state and talk about Armenia's "Turkish Roots"
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He was put into power via a coup, ran a classic covid 'election' and won with like a 10% approval rating, and is currently throwing archbishops in jail and accusing them of plotting coups. Pretty classic formula.
 
Mukhrani said:
A bit mystified over the idea that Ukraine is the reason Russia didn't help them. The Second Nagorno-Karabakh War ended in 2020 with complete Armenian humiliation.
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the 2020 war ended with a ceasfire that kept nagorno karabakh alive and mostly intact, and was enforced by russian peacekeepers
he's talking about the 2023 war where the azeris took over the entire territory while the russian peacekeepers that were supposed to uphold the terms of the previous ceasefire just stood back and did nothing, resulting in the complete collapse of the republic of artsakh and the flight/expulsion/ethnic cleansing of 99% of its armenian population
 
Mukhrani said:
They're hedging their bets, which is what got them in this mess in the first place (2018 revolution). It's retarded to try to and play footsies with two antagonistic great powers at once - the other side will prioritize their long-term partners who have irreconcilable differences with you, and your own historical patron will now no longer trust you. You lose what little leverage you had. To be fair, the people probably didn't have much say in it, seemed like a standard 'revolution'. Pashinyan is hated, being the main reason that Russia began to withdraw from Armenia, resulting in the complete humiliation of the country.

A bit mystified over the idea that Ukraine is the reason Russia didn't help them. The Second Nagorno-Karabakh War ended in 2020 with complete Armenian humiliation. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022. The breakdown in relations began in 2018 due to the overthrown of the Kremlin-friendly government, and the later conflict was just the killing blow to an already critically weakened country. Now they basically have a puppet government and are the red-headed stepchild of the Caucasus, being the last of the three to align with the West, living under the table and subsisting off of table scraps. Very sad, honestly. Classic Scylla moment - a wise ruler makes use of a traitor but never trusts one.
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Armenia doesn't have any chips bro they ain't betting shit the game is over they lost, they're solidly bent over, it isn't some masterful game of geopolitical chess... they're utterly buckbroken hence the ethnic cleansing and subsequent 100k refugees. Their current position can be best described as trying not to die, I do feel for them bit but QARA BOGAZ won this one.

This isn't what the Armenians wanted to happen, they're the only Transcaucasian state to have stayed in the CSTO afterall, you'd hope and expect big daddy rusgolia to come to the rescue but it just didn't happen for whatever reason, maybe that's because Putin just didn't feel like it, but I feel the actual war taking up all his attention has more than a little to do with it. Same scenario with the collapse in Syria; russian allies get no support, you can cope over how this is totally a masterstroke and how letting your aligned regimes fall like dominoes is a wonderous display of strategy, but the simple fact is rusgolistan is in no fit state to do anything about it, so they just do nothing.
 
Butterschmalz said:
Kurds invasion cancled.

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Stupid mutts. It would be all different you didnt call them after cottage cheese. I would help myself out, but I m just too tall.
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Actually a smart move after their retarded play in Syria took them from an ethnic minority in a state that relied on it's ethnic and religious minorities to hold onto power against the sunni arab majority into an ethnic minority in a militant sunni arab state.

The Turks and the Kurds not invading Iran is also good for the Shahist types, nothing like getting invaded by the Turds to unite the populace against foreign invasion, and to torpedo the legitimacy of any government that comes after the Mullahs.
 
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BIG BREAKING NEWS, in light of Americans dwindling interceptor count Trump is attempting to charge up a spirit bomb with the help of the local clergy in order to defeat the Iranians once and for all.
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Onepumpplumpchump said:
Look at any bar graph of how many missiles and drones Iran has been launching and you will literally see a downward trend. Ive been seeing cope posts about this as well.
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Do you have any on hand? I am trying to hunt some up but I haven’t been following missile counts and I’m not sure who is a reliable source
 
StudMccool said:
Some Kino footage of the "cluster" warheads Iran has sent to Tel Aviv 1 way express shipping
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Those aren't cluster bombs, those are flare/chaff decoys to allow the warheads to survive interceptions.
Doesn't even make sense for a ballistic missile to have cluster ammo, you'd have MIRVs instead, but Iranian rockets are usually too small for them to be big enough instead of a single warhead.
 
AN/ALR56 said:
Those aren't cluster bombs, those are flare/chaff decoys to allow the warheads to survive interceptions.
Doesn't even make sense for a ballistic missile to have cluster ammo, you'd have MIRVs instead, but Iranian rockets are usually too small for them to be big enough instead of a single warhead.
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Careful you are talking to stud who seems to be going through something right now.
 
DumbDude43 said:
the 2020 war ended with a ceasfire that kept nagorno karabakh alive and mostly intact, and was enforced by russian peacekeepers
he's talking about the 2023 war where the azeris took over the entire territory while the russian peacekeepers that were supposed to uphold the terms of the previous ceasefire just stood back and did nothing, resulting in the complete collapse of the republic of artsakh and the flight/expulsion/ethnic cleansing of 99% of its armenian population
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Those Russian peacekeepers were only supposed to defend the Lachin Corridor, not Artsakh. Armenia had already lost over 70% of Nagorno-Karabakh in the 2020 ceasefire. Pashinyan was pretty crystal-clear about his antagonism towards Russia from the get go. Can't really blaming them for failing to defend a hostile government that was clearly incompetent when they technically were not required too. They kept the border open to allow the refuges to escape, then left as there was literally no point to keeping the corridor open with Artsakh fallen. Pashinyan then kicked even more Russian troops out of Armenia a month later.
 
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