🌟 Internet Famous Turkey Tom / TomDark / @NotATurkey / TomDarkLive / anonbirdd / Thomas Larry Hanson - KiwiTuber, "Her Prostate" enjoyer, chronic shitstirrer, Destiny worshipper, pronouns respecter, Mr.Beast bootlicker, serial cheater, cuck, Kiwi Farms induced erectile dysfunction

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Null said:
She was his girlfriend, she did know him, she did have evidence. Literally what was I supposed to ask for? The reality is true: Turkey Tom's long-term ex-girlfriend accused him of violent and unwanted sexual behavior. There is no way for me to determine if she's actually lying or not from just our conversations. In the interview I asked her questions to strain her story and several of her responses were used by Turkey Tom to exonerate himself. He used her responses from that interview to help further his own narrative. Literally what more could I have done?!
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It's weird that you dont understand why people make fun of you.
It's not the interview, its everything else.

For example it's you saying that you belived them when reacting to augies video and acting like its all true what they said when Tom haven't responded yet (https://www.youtube.com/live/rB7umCn4gc8?si=FPPHY-_2IRX0GRVN&t=3440)

But that wasnt even that bad, the main problem is that when Tom responded and disproved the most of the serious allegations your respond wasn't a "my bad" or a "sorry for assisting mentally ill BPD bitches who tried to ruin your life cause they are crazy mentally ill BPD bitches" and self reflect.
Instead it was "But what about the erectile dysfunction". https://www.youtube.com/live/_ZRg-Mn0Zls?si=zesvYG4DJVB4fCQX&t=1592

After a fuck up like this people dont want a "what about this or what about that", it feels like deflecting your fuck up. They just want a "sorry".
 
Morrowind: GOTY Edition said:
One of the most embarrassing sagas on KF in years.

Tom is a retard and needs to grow up already. Get away from these retarded BPD whores and start acting like an adult in his mid-20s.

Rowan and the other chick were just as stupid, and I'm genuinely not sure why everyone blindly took their side after how many of these retarded stories where every single detail just gets worse and worse have ended up being massive duds. You'd think after ProJared, people would learn to be wary of this shit and wait for a response.

That being said, I think the dumbest argument of this entire controversy is the "HE DIDN'T ADDRESS THE AGEPLAY" stuff. Not addressing and confirming are two completely different things, and Rowan spent literally two weeks on here posting daily, just making up random bullshit. I don't really blame him for trimming the fat in an already 45 minute video and just assuming it doesn't need to be addressed if almost every single other claim can be countered.

With how much shit this site gives Ralph for constantly screeching "IT'S NAWT TRUE," I have no idea why Tom not doing the same is suddenly such an egregious crime.

I'm ranting to nobody and I'm sure no one gives a fuck what I say, but hopefully, for the site's reputation in the future, people start remembering to vet information first before you start doing the same dumbass shit half the subjects of threads here are ridiculed for.
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If someone is making accusations of you being engaged in some pretty pedophilic shit with credible photo evidence, maybe you would want to spend more than 5 seconds addressing that.
 
Null said:
Nigger what the fuck was the bias? I didn't tell her anything to say. I just ran down a list of questions.
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Many of your questions werent "what happened" but "so tom did (insert in itself reasonable sounding accusations)" to which the demons only had to say yes to. I get that you pray for Toms downfall, he takes most of his stuff from the farms and neither mentions you nor compensates you. However watching the interview it is clear to almost anyone that you tried to push for toms downfall as hard as possible, by trying to get very bad yet reasonable sounding accusations out of the whores.

This wouldnt even be bad if you at least afterwards somewhat apologize for fucking up or whatever or even accepted the slightest fault in your behaviour. However, very lolcowlike, you decide that you behaved perfectly fine and everyone else is in the wrong. The only retards agreeing with you are ppl who unironically argue that false rape/physical abuse claims are free speech.

I do really appreciate you for creating and sticking with kiwifarms, but sometimes even a goat gets an L.
 
Natalia the Sluice said:
Dude you used your site to platform a BPD women with no fact checking …
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Idk where the ”everything posted on KiwiFarms has to be fact checked and verified” suddenly came from. It’s all gossip and rumours until it’s confirmed or debunked.

The interview gave Sacramento the rope to hang herself with, which I’m sure tom and his legal team appreciate. I don’t think he’ll go after the forum, it doesn’t make sense. He won, best thing would be to just move on.

Also, she sent what to Null?? So she could also be facing revenge porn charges on top of everything?
 
taktion said:
It's weird that you dont understand why people make fun of you.
It's not the interview, its everything else.

For example it's you saying that you belived them when reacting to augies video and acting like its all true what they said when Tom haven't responded yet (https://www.youtube.com/live/rB7umCn4gc8?si=FPPHY-_2IRX0GRVN&t=3440)

But that wasnt even that bad, the main problem is that when Tom responded and disproved the most of the serious allegations your respond wasn't a "my bad" or a "sorry for assisting mentally ill BPD bitches who tried to ruin your life cause they are crazy mentally ill BPD bitches" and self reflect.
Instead it was "But what about the erectile dysfunction". https://www.youtube.com/live/_ZRg-Mn0Zls?si=zesvYG4DJVB4fCQX&t=1592

After a fuck up like this people dont want a "what about this or what about that", it feels like deflecting your fuck up. They just want a "sorry".
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He who fights journalists should look to himself that he does not become a journalist. Gaze long into Reddit and Reddit also gazes into you.
 
Chocolate Rain said:
Thats why this drama was boring. Its not like Tom is some high tier influencer with an impeccable track record he's a drama slop farmer at best.
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I think beta male pussies looked at Tom and thought of him undeserving due to his facial deficiencies. Essentially, jealousy and insecurity.

Little did they know, thots love money and clout more than looks.
 
Null said:
Nigger what the fuck was the bias? I didn't tell her anything to say. I just ran down a list of questions.
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Honestly, just move on. You won't change their minds and you are making yourself unreasonably angry.

Tom is a bitchass faggot either way for sticking his dick in crazy- and knowing it can destroy his life and career, but doing it anyway.

You should have know better, dickhead.

You have a lot to lose, and you did it all for fucking bpd egirls. Wow.

I'm surprised there has been no abortion drama yet considering how eager you are to fuck crazies raw. Or maybe there has and we just don't know. Yet.
But i don't think we will hear about it this soon after his pyrrhic victory.
 
Null said:
She was his girlfriend, she did know him, she did have evidence. Literally what was I supposed to ask for? The reality is true: Turkey Tom's long-term ex-girlfriend accused him of violent and unwanted sexual behavior. There is no way for me to determine if she's actually lying or not from just our conversations. In the interview I asked her questions to strain her story and several of her responses were used by Turkey Tom to exonerate himself. He used her responses from that interview to help further his own narrative. Literally what more could I have done?!
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He had her on, she had evidence, her accusation was backed up with her evidence. It wasn't actually possible for him, or anyone else, to know that she was lying as only two people in the entire world had access to the information that would be needed for that determination. He did what you're supposed to when you have someone on your show, he reviewed her story and evidence before he had her on, he dug into her story which showed there were cracks, and in the end that helped the truthful party to show that she was indeed full of shit.

In the end Null handled it like any podcast, radio, or TV show I have seen where they review the story and evidence beforehand to see if their story is at least plausible, they have the guest on, they let them tell their story, and the host pokes at it to see if it holds water, and as happened with Null's interview, it actually helped bring the truth to light in the end.

I don't see how Null could have done any more than that. What are people saying they want, just for Null not to interview people on the show? I think that is Null's call, and not for any of us to say what he should or should not do.

Also, before people accuse me of riding Null's dick, I know for a fact that I am not one of Null's favorite people. I don't think he calls people he thinks of fondly a "Nigger" or "Retard". I also think Null can be a huge asshole sometimes, and I have disagreed with him on many prior occasions. However, in this instance, I honestly don't think Null could have handled the situations any differently than he did, and he shouldn't be faulted for it.
 
Null said:
The genderwars shit is about to kill the site. I don't think we're going to have the clout to survive the next lawsuit tbh. I know it's coming and I'm looking at the internal division and outward animosity even from adjacent communities just over this shit and I'm blackpilled as fuck about it. I don't see a path forward if this is how bad it is.
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I love you, Josh, and I 100% agree with you. You should've never given the gender-war faggotry a platform in the first place. I sincerely hope this is a lesson learned bcause I want Kiwi Farms to succeed.

Not shutting down those man-hate/woman-hate threads the second they popped up was a huge mistake. It's fundamentally changed the culture of the site by enabling the perma-assmad weirdos who are obsessed with that stuff. It's just like allowing loli, unfortunately. It spreads like a plague and takes over the ENTIRE site. It's inherently negative and unfunny. You can't reliably contain it. I don't want to read the bickering between Fuentes fags and raped hamplanets. If these losers weren't catered to, then I think this Tom situation would've unraveled differently.

You didn't do anything wrong. What we found out about Tom's bedroom habits is hilarious, and that's the point. We're here to laugh. If people want to get all righteous and vindictive, cry "life ruination" like this at all compares to other situations, then they should fuck off back to Reddit.

I'm begging you to please consider closing down those gender war threads. I know they're active, it'd be an unpopular decision, but this isn't as enjoyable of a place anymore because of them, and this debacle's evidence of that. This reactionary, pants-shitting discourse is like Xitter in the worst way. The vibe's shifted.

Ignoring the worst offenders (on my end) hasn't made it better because the influence trickles, and there're countless stragglers. Those threads need to go.
 
Chocolate Rain said:
You were not impartial at all in that interview and the "she has no presence online and has no reason to lie" blew up in your face.
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Because that is what she said TO ME. She lied TO ME.

eDove said:
I love you, Josh, and I 100% agree with you. You should've never given the gender-war faggotry a platform in the first place. I sincerely hope this is a lesson learned bcause I want Kiwi Farms to succeed.

Not shutting down those man-hate/woman-hate threads the second they popped up was a huge mistake. It's fundamentally changed the culture of the site by enabling the perma-assmad weirdos who are obsessed with that stuff. It's just like allowing loli, unfortunately. It spreads like a plague and takes over the ENTIRE site. It's inherently negative and unfunny. You can't reliably contain it. I don't want to read the bickering between Fuentes fags and raped hamplanets. If these losers weren't catered to, then I think this Tom situation would've unraveled differently.

You didn't do anything wrong. What we found out about Tom's bedroom habits is hilarious, and that's the point. We're here to laugh. If people want to get all righteous and vindictive, cry "life ruination" like this at all compares to other situations, then they should fuck off back to Reddit.

I'm begging you to please consider closing down those gender war threads. I know they're active, it'd be an unpopular decision, but this isn't as enjoyable of a place anymore because of them, and this debacle's evidence of that. This reactionary, pants-shitting discourse is like Xitter in the worst way. The vibe's shifted.

Ignoring the worst offenders (on my end) hasn't made it better because the influence trickles, and there're countless stragglers. Those threads need to go.
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I'm not shutting down shit. There's a legal problem coming up and if this is what kills it good fucking riddance.
 
Never Scored said:
Yeah, because the idea that he only cums when he beats off to videos of himself is fucking hilarious and trying to force him to confirm or deny it is hilarious.
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Sure, but that video wasn't made to address all the small insignificant claims. The reason for the video's existence is to disprove the "life ruining" claims.
Tom likely wouldn't have bothered even talking about it if it was just that.
 
dick tha master said:
Honestly, just move on. You won't change their minds and you are making yourself unreasonably angry.
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I am 100% reasonably angry. The amount of shit I'm getting for this is just fucking preposterous. If the site's this divided against me for something so trivial what exactly am I eating so much shit for? Why do I bother? If the foundation is this fucked and this broken the next strong wind to come is going to bring us down.
 
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