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Should be a wild four years.

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April Ryan said:
Forgive my ignorance, as any knowledge of air combat I have comes from Video games and movies, but how the fuck do *three planes* get taken down in , I assume, a single incident?

My own, completely out of my ass assumption, is that, given they were above Kuwait, all three pilots had simply turned off all their ecm and warning systems, and presumably their IFF as well, and so were just completely unaware that some arabs were trying to kill them until it was too late
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Simple, the threat library built into the RWR of the F-15E did not include the MIM-104 Patriot because why would it be fired at one of its own allies?
and again, this is incompetence on the Kuwaiti's part
 
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NO APOLOGIES — President DONALD TRUMP hit back at MAGA World critics of his Iran gambit in a phone call with “The Inner Circle” Monday night, arguing that MEGYN KELLY and TUCKER CARLSON aren’t “MAGA.” That he is.

While writing about the crescendo of prominent MAGA voices expressing skepticism on the merits, I picked up the phone to ask the president whether he believed the criticism constituted a sizable portion of his base. Trump initially said, “I don’t know.”

“I have to do what’s right, number one — and you can’t have Iran getting a nuclear weapon. That’s predominant to me,” he said.

But then Trump went on to express confidence that MAGA is with him. He pointed out that Kelly had been critical of him before, but had come around to supporting him. Then he argued that her skepticism doesn’t matter. (“It's all right. I don't mind. She was critical of me for years and I didn't lose. I won all three times by a lot.”)

“I think that MAGA is Trump — MAGA’s not the other two,” Trump said, referring to Kelly and Carlson. “MAGA wants to see our country thrive and be safe. And MAGA loves what I’m doing — every aspect of it… This is a detour that we have to take in order to keep our country safe and keep other countries safe, frankly.”
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TRUMP’S COMMENT COME AS the White House is flooding the zone to defend its attack on Iran, an offensive that peaks as early public polling suggests Americans disapprove of the campaign.

On Monday night, Vice President JD VANCE — the administration’s senior-most anti-interventionist, who cut his teeth in politics by blasting the war in Iraq — took to Fox News with a clear message: This is NOT Iraq or Afghanistan 2.0 The situation in Iran, he argued, is “so different” from wars of the past because “the president has clearly defined what he wants to accomplish… Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and has to commit long-term to never trying to rebuild the nuclear capability.”

“There’s just no way that Donald Trump is going to allow this country to get into a multi-year conflict with no clear end in sight and no clear objective,” Vance said. “And I think that means that we’re not going to get into the problems that we’ve had with Iraq and Afghanistan.”
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I’m told by the White House that the P.R. push will pull in other high-profile administration officials, too, including STEVE WITKOFF and MICHAEL WALTZ. And we should expect frequent, if not daily, briefings by the Pentagon.

THE DAMAGE-CONTROL EFFORT follows some Trump World allies questioning the need for the operation at all. On Monday, Kelly became the latest to assail the administration for fighting a war that she argued is not “America First” priorities.

“Why are we doing this now? What was the catalyst?” Kelly asked her millions of followers, adding that “I don’t think those four service members died for the United States. I think they died for Iran or for Israel.” “I have serious doubts about what we’re doing. I support the president… I campaigned for the president… But that doesn’t mean… you have to accept another Middle East war without question — and anybody who tells you that can suck it.”
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(Service member deaths have now reached six.)

Read some of Kelly’s comments, Trump in our phone call said the podcast host “outta study her history book a little bit.”

“Megan was opposed to me for years when I ran the first time and nothing stopped me,” Trump said. “And so, you know, some people are against — and they always come back. She came all the way back. But now I guess she maybe doesn’t like the idea of this war, but I do because I have to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of the Iranians.”
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Kelly isn’t alone. TUCKER CARLSON sent a warning sign to the White House over the weekend, arguing that the campaign was “evil,” in a call with ABC News. (Trump told me that Carlson “can say whatever he wants; it has no impact on me.”) STEVE BANNON has, meanwhile, been stoking the fire as well, hosting guests on his famous “War Room” podcast, questioning what the administration is doing.

“Look, Steve, I’m not happy about the whole thing. I don’t think this was in America’s interests,” ERIK PRINCE said on the show yesterday. “It’s going to uncork a significant can of worms and chaos and destruction in Iran now.”
 
NeonFlux said:
We're still training at the super secret zogbot facilities where they produce real life Sam Fishers and Solid Snakes. It's going to be a minute.
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Fuck. I've been sending all these Amazon giftcards to this guy named Sam Snake so I could get secret agent training.

Are you guys already on site!?! Now that I think about it he did say "saar" a lot.

FILTH Tourist said:
Now do the same for the rest of the subcontinent.
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Trump could do the funniest thing right now...

"NO H1B... 1 MILLION FEE! NO H1B, ONE MILLION FEE!"
 
Delany's Donkey said:
I sometimes think this thread is full of the biggest coping retards on the website but then i go to the enslavement thread and realize political discourse on this website consists of either:

1. "Trump is an evil pedophile who could cure cancer and would still be worse than the devil and his supporters are all incels who deserve to die"
or
2. "Trump is a literal god and never does anything wrong and i will change my political opinions to match whatever he says at that moment and anyone who even slightly criticizes anything the administration does or says is a blackpilling libtarded turdworlder who is probably a fed"

It's like an even more autistic and retarded versions of R/TheDonald and Bluesky on the same website.
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Myself, back on February 11th, 2025:
browserbowser said:
I've settled on being okay with Don Jr. As much as it might piss off the people who didn't want any more political dynasties, he should at least throw his hat in the ring after his dad's term and see if he can win the primary.
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As a reminder. Since it's popular to accuse people of either being TES or TDS based on superficial nonsense.
 
Smoothie King franchisee in Forestville, Maryland says they will not serve Trump supporters, in response to a Michigan Smoothie King kicking out customers for wearing Trump merchandise.
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Imagine being a business owner and being this retarded.

Then again, he is black, so this kind of checks out.
 
TheNeoMutualist said:
yes the South Vietnamese didnt exist
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They absolutely did. They were a separate country for two full decades after the deposition of Emperor Bao Dai.

This is like saying the north Vietnamese didn't exist.

TheNeoMutualist said:
there was no Northern equivalent of the Vietcong
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"The non-communist side that just wanted to be left alone didn't arm subversives on the other side to overthrow their government!"

You genuinely think this is an argument in favor of the NVK?
TheNeoMutualist said:
it was a blatant puppet state
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Oh, you mean like North Vietnam was to the Soviets and Chinese? The ones who provided 90% of their military funding and equipment?
TheNeoMutualist said:
Also yes, traitors get executed, what happens if you lose a war. The NVA were actual patriots, end of story.
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Oppressing and massacring hundreds of thousands of the people you were supposedly """"freeing"""" (from themselves) is cartoonishly evil and literally proved the South Vietnamese were 100% justified in doing everything they could to resist the North.


I never expected to see unironic tankie-posting in here but you've somehow managed to surprise me.
 
April Ryan said:
Forgive my ignorance, as any knowledge of air combat I have comes from Video games and movies, but how the fuck do *three planes* get taken down in , I assume, a single incident?

My own, completely out of my ass assumption, is that, given they were above Kuwait, all three pilots had simply turned off all their ecm and warning systems, and presumably their IFF as well, and so were just completely unaware that some arabs were trying to kill them until it was too late.
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Good question. In the environment of combat you'd have everything on, ECM/warning/IFF. Threat from Iranian air minimal, threat from Iranian air defense possible. Doesn't matter, still your precious ass at risk.

But it takes two to tango. Friendly air defense needs to stay on top of the situation, have radar feeds available from not just air defense tracking radars but friendly ground-controlled intercept (GCI) radars, plus any other friendly radars/controllers in the vicinity. Need to be able to talk to other people, need to have smart people in the loop making sure only the bad guys get hit. Kuwait is a very small country, especially compared with most of the neighboring countries. In this situation you're in combat mode from the very start until you land and park the plane.

The investigation should be very interesting.

CharlesBarkley said:
Imagine being a business owner and being this retarded.

Then again, he is black, so this kind of checks out.
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Guess any publicity is good publicity when hardly anyone has even heard of a Smoothie King. Fuck 'em.
 
TheNeoMutualist said:
yes the South Vietnamese didnt exist, there was no Northern equivalent of the Vietcong, it was a blatant puppet state. Also yes, traitors get executed, what happens if you lose a war. The NVA were actual patriots, end of story.
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Pinging @Hey Johnny Bravo to school this fool and provide an informative write-up on the South Vietnamese since that's his wheelhouse and not mine. I'm just the guy who finds the self-immolating monk whose heart is a sacred relic badass and metal as hell.
 
P-38 autist said:
Simple, the threat library built into the RWR of the F-15E did not include the MIM-104 Patriot because why would it be fired at one of its own allies?
and again, this is incompetence on the Kuwaiti's part
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Was it a Patriot?

No idea here. Don't watch TV, don't read mainstream newspapers.

If this is correct, time to clean house in Kuwaiti air defense, maybe some court-martials. Bring people from Fort Bliss in to retrain the survivors of the house-cleaning, plus the new hires.
 
Transgender Minnesota State Representative Leigh Finke (D), has introduced legislation to ban ICE agents from wearing masks.

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