Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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The Ghost of Sergei Witte said:
My country has been dragged into one too many wars for American Imperial interests, The American Empire is the scorpion, Europe is the frog. It will be a good thing actually if we detach ourselves entirely from Washington.
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- Multiple World Wars having to be saved by the US
- Entire network of alliances and defense paid for at the expense of the US
- Able to waste massive amounts of what would be defense budget on mudslimes and sambos

But sure. The US/Israel strikes Iran and Europe is most affected. Enjoy paying double on your gas bill, it's what you deserve.
 
Lord Of Shit said:
Still, strategically, it's insane to act this way.

Even if they somehow manage to hit something of military value in those countries, it will mostly just antagonise them and further solidify opposition to the regime! Even Hitler in his final "Pervitin phase" never did anything so stupid or reckless.

And these are all Sunni states which only grudgingly tolerated Iran's Shi'ite blasphemy in the first place.

'I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it."
--Voltaire
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It's not like they were wavering and might have switched sides. The best Iran could possibly have hoped for if war actually happened was no kinetic attacks from those countries as they provided cover to Americans, who would still use their assets there to provide logistical support to the fleets and gather intelligence.

Another upside for them is that they are raising the cost of the war for Westerners, something that normally doesn't happen for them in such a tangible way. One wonders how enthusiastic even the most slavish migger (sorry, I meant to say Migro, no offense intended) will be about getting revenge for the 1979 hostage crisis when his power, heating, and gas bills all go up and never come down (edit: minimum of 10 cents/gal of gas by the end of the week!).
 
Ghostse said:
Please listen to yourself.
"Ok sure they have been enriching uranium overtime, they've turned down free nuke reactors and free fuel, they've turned down being allowed to buy uranium and medical isotopes from other nations. But how do we know the country that as said 'we want to build a nuke. We're going to build nukes and wipe out israel' is ACTUALLY building nukes."
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That isn’t what I’m saying. Of course they’re building nukes.
I am well aware that Iran is after a bomb, and despite repeated attempts to stop them, the have a pretty talented set of guys actually building one. That they have the capacity and will is not in doubt. That they’d use it to wipe Israel off the map isnt in doubt either. The ayatollah and his ilk are the worst thing to happen to Iran in a while. Yes, Iran is after a bomb.
What I’m saying is that this is the exact playbook previously used to get us, and you, into a prolonged feet on the ground war. Right now there’s public buy in for a short, four week intense bombardment to decapitate the regime, after which they think they either install whoever’s most useful or the Iranian people will gratefully rise up (despite the fact said ayatollah just massacred 35,000 poor sods of their own people who tried that.)
What this is laying the groundwork for is a wider engagement. Which is going to happen becasue a. Money and b. With all these shells being lobbed around something is going to get hit that will justify it. You’re going to have boots on the ground, and at that point it segues from justified regime change to Halliburton’s share price, and anyone pointing that out will be found in the woods with their wrists cut in very peculiar ways
 
I just have to say, one thing that can’t be overstated is how awesome the Kiwifarms is for getting information at light speed with primary sources and archives.
One guy at work is almost convinced I’m a superhacker with intel ties but no, I just read through this place and from that alone my information is more solid and timely than any news source he’s aware of.
God bless you spergs.
 
Milles d'Allemagne said:
Kamikaze speed boat bombs were a US wargaming invention from 20+ years ago that only worked through an exploit in the war-game and had nothing to do with reality.
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Wasn't talking about the cheated wargame that I'm well aware of. I'm talking about the actual speedboat fleet that Iran built and apparently never used.
Milles d'Allemagne said:
turns out actual ships have armaments and guns and shit that can hit random boats quite well.
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Which again US ships were never actually forced to use. That was why I was wondering what the fucking point was of the speedboat fleet. Like the whole point of my post. Anyway can't find a reputable estimate for the fleet size but seems they made at least 1000 of them (wikipedia lists 3000-5000).
 
Bummer said:
What exactly did they do to kick the hornets nest?
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Time to take a trip down memory lane.

1979-2026
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  1. 1979: Establishment of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini returns from exile; a referendum declares Iran an Islamic republic​
  2. 1979-1981 Iran Hostage Crisis: Seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, holding 52 Americans hostage for 444 days.​
  3. 1980 - 1988 Iran vs Iraq War in which Iran used chemical weapons​
  4. 1980 - 2026 was also the establishment and funding of Hezbollah​
  5. 1988 Fatway against Salman Rushdie the start of Global Islamic censorship.​
  6. 1990 the beginning of funding and training Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and also attacks on Israel​
  7. 2000 - 2026 Support for Houthis in Yemen started​
  8. 2002 Secret Nuclear facilities and programs were discovered and investigated.​
  9. 2003- 2009 Confirmation of nuclear explosives, regime denies such activities.​
  10. 2015 Iran agrees to a nuclear cap and then swiftly exceeds it​
  11. Continued proxy attacks​
  12. 2019 - 2020 Iran down a US Drone, commits retaliatory strikes, Soleimani killed, Iran Missile strikes on US Bases in Iraq.​
  13. 2024 - 2025 Iran launches direct missile and drone attacks on Israel. Israel begins to strike Iran for the Nuclear violations findings.​
  14. 2025 - 2026 IAEA Declares non compliance as Iraq begins rebuilding.​

I don't know about y'all, but if I were a swarm of wasps and Islamic regime was a person, they'd be dead with that amount of pokes.
 
Otterly said:
That isn’t what I’m saying. Of course they’re building nukes.
I am well aware that Iran is after a bomb, and despite repeated attempts to stop them, the have a pretty talented set of guys actually building one. That they have the capacity and will is not in doubt. That they’d use it to wipe Israel off the map isnt in doubt either. The ayatollah and his ilk are the worst thing to happen to Iran in a while. Yes, Iran is after a bomb.
What I’m saying is that this is the exact playbook previously used to get us, and you, into a prolonged feet on the ground war. Right now there’s public buy in for a short, four week intense bombardment to decapitate the regime, after which they think they either install whoever’s most useful or the Iranian people will gratefully rise up (despite the fact said ayatollah just massacred 35,000 poor sods of their own people who tried that.)
What this is laying the groundwork for is a wider engagement. Which is going to happen becasue a. Money and b. With all these shells being lobbed around something is going to get hit that will justify it. You’re going to have boots on the ground, and at that point it segues from justified regime change to Halliburton’s share price, and anyone pointing that out will be found in the woods with their wrists cut in very peculiar ways
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I pointed this out and some little faggot called me "boomer", I really believe everyone jerking themselves off right now honestly has no idea it's exactly like Libya and Syria and getting closer to Iraq by the look of it. The scenario in which they were literal children who were only "against engagement in endless Middle East disasters" came long after the fact when it was undeniable they were mistakes.
 
Milles d'Allemagne said:
Macron says France intents to increase their nuke stockpile, has invited european allies for joint exercises for nuclear deterrence, Germany agreed to partake
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Speech is over. There's even agreements apparently to have french capabilities stationed across European allies
Speaking from the Ile Longue base in Brest, the French president announced the “gradual implementation of advanced deterrence,” offering European allies the opportunity to “participate in French nuclear deterrence exercises.” “It may involve the deployment of strategic forces among our allies,” he said, assuring that this “forward deterrence (...) will strengthen our defense by giving it greater scope.”
Eight European countries (Germany, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, the Netherlands, Poland, the United Kingdom, and Sweden) have so far agreed to participate in this “forward deterrence” proposed by France. These countries will be able to host “strategic air forces” from the French air force, which will thus be able to “spread out across the European continent” to “complicate the calculations of our adversaries,” the French president explained in a speech on nuclear deterrence.
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Chain of command will still be completely french with authority to nuke resting with el presidente, and detterence focus on french safety concerns. Honestly don't think this is Iran related, way to big to have been decided over the week end
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
I just have to say, one thing that can’t be overstated is how awesome the Kiwifarms is for getting information at light speed with primary sources and archives.
One guy at work is almost convinced I’m a superhacker with intel ties but no, I just read through this place and from that alone my information is more solid and timely than any news source he’s aware of.
God bless you spergs.
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Gotta dig through lots of retarded faggots arguing and shitposting though which is pretty gay.
 
Who has two thumbs and wants you all to post footage of buildings falling down?

Bob_kelso.webp
 
Unredacted TND said:
Is he gonna lose?
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Right now the polls say he is going to get clobbered. The opposition party is pro-Western center right, so it's not like they'd go full commie. It's led by a former member of his party who basically said he is sick of the kleptocracy there. There are some paranoid voices saying Orban will cancel the election but it's nonsense. It won't really matter to the US who wins other than Magyar (yes his last name is basically the word "Hungarian" in Hungarian) would lean more Euro and would stop blocking EU initiatives because he wouldn't try to placate Putin as much.
 
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