Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Battlefield2142EU said:
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Pull NATO into a conflict with Iran before people can vote against Israel interest. Israel is already worry about American voters turning on them.
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Turkey is a NATO country, what does making Turkey a new target have to do with bringing the entire military pact designed to curbstomp/bully cold-war Russia have to do with Iran? which just basically had it's head chopped off so not really any largescale need for a coordinated boots-on-the-ground invasion?
 
FatWhiteGuy said:
I mean even after the conflict is wrapped up.
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Oh, well they were doing that before. The results of that are what you're seeing right now - Israeli anti-missile defenses blocking a significant portion of the incoming attacks and most weapon systems being ineffective at taking down Israeli aircraft.

Not to mention, Russia doesn't really have the surplus capacity to supply Iran right now and China is spooked so it's keeping a lot of its assets at home.
 

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It's a small town right across the blue line, not a big deal but notable
 
Black Yoshi said:
I got a crack scenario: Iran launches everything at Israel as one last "fuck you" and Israel in turn invokes the Samson Option.
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I’d suggest that if Iran had an ace up their sleeve the time to use it has been and gone. At this point they should just say uncle and minimise the damage to themselves.
 
FatWhiteGuy said:
Theoretically, what is stopping, say Russia or China from just giving Iran munitions capable of hitting Israel's ICBMs or just longer range missile silos and platforms?
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Range, targeting and counter-fires.

Short answer, Russia and China barely have the missiles capable of pulling off a long-range penetration strike, Iran possibly lacks the actual knowledge of where the Israeli nukes are, and chances are they'd just get blown up before getting a decent salvo off.
 
Black Yoshi said:
I got a crack scenario: Iran launches everything at Israel as one last "fuck you" and Israel in turn invokes the Samson Option.
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Every launcher that's left, firing what's left, would at best be a scenario where they get a few dozen rockets through right before the air force zaps every single one. They're going to try to drag this out with smaller and smaller waves as supplies and launchers drop in number.
 
Suburban Bastard said:
Every launcher that's left, firing what's left, would at best be a scenario where they get a few dozen rockets through right before the air force zaps every single one. They're going to try to drag this out with smaller and smaller waves as supplies and launchers drop in number.
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If they can still coordinate that. Maybe its a contingency order though.
 
Buttigieg2020 said:
The President of Iran is alive for a reason. The US will likely negotiate a ceasefire and a transitional government agreement with him, or with whoever is still alive in two weeks if he says no.
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The thing to remember about Iran is that it is not a unitary government/state. The nominal civilian government headed by the current President is separate from the clerical authority and the IRGC (which itself is basically a state within a state). The plan is probably to have the Iranian President work with Pahlavi after hostilities end/the clerics and IRGC are overthrown in setting up a new government, probably some kind of constitutional monarchy.
 
FatWhiteGuy said:
Theoretically, what is stopping, say Russia or China from just giving Iran munitions capable of hitting Israel's ICBMs or just longer range missile silos and platforms?
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The transactional nature of their relationship with Iran. The Chinese just want a business partner, and Russia just wants them as a thorn in America's side (a plurality of Israelis are/speak Russian, so Putin wants to stay on speaking terms with them).
 
Fanatical Pragmatist said:
Range, targeting and counter-fires.

Short answer, Russia and China barely have the missiles capable of pulling off a long-range penetration strike, Iran possibly lacks the actual knowledge of where the Israeli nukes are, and chances are they'd just get blown up before getting a decent salvo off.
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Out there is some patriot American intelligence member who could leak said info, and bless the world.
 
Fcret said:
Not to religisperg too much, but isn't it a requirement for him to be a direct descendant of David?
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He is.

Lach said:
This particular statement struck as pretty odd to me, I hate Turkroaches pretty hard but in the Geo-politics sense they have been pretty submissive to the US, their only really large incident was the Cyprus conflict(s), they've worked with Israel a lot over the years in coordinating against terrorist cells and islamic countries that sperged about Jews/US. Turkey is rather secular and its usual hardline politicians tend to just pay lip service to the muzzies rather than put on the white bed sheets screaming about jihads. Is there something I'm missing here? Can the Israeli Shills in chat enlighten me why this is a 400 iq move that benefits the west achtually, because it just comes off as exactly what the fiercest anti-semites claim about jews lel :P
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Turkey is openly aggressive towards Israel and is expanding into Syria which puts it right on the border with Israel. This is why Israel occupied a portion of Syria and is sponsoring a Druze statelet. They want a buffer state.
 
make_it_so said:
The thing to remember about Iran is that it is not a unitary government/state. The nominal civilian government headed by the current President is separate from the clerical authority and the IRGC (which itself is basically a state within a state). The plan is probably to have the Iranian President work with Pahlavi after hostilities end/the clerics and IRGC are overthrown in setting up a new government, probably some kind of constitutional monarchy.
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But aren't the potential presidents just like the IRGC and the Ayotollah in the whole "DEATH TO AMERICA" hateboner? They have an attack to go after The Great Satan right now.

Unredacted TND said:
Good, if IDF puts troops on ground, we don't have to. Someone said this is neoneoconservatism.
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Hasn't this been what Bibi has been planning for? First the IDF fought the proxies, now they fight the enemy directly.
 
So Hezbollah decided to stick their noses in and get clapped, but what are the Houthis up to now?
 
Random Internet Person said:
But aren't the potential presidents just like the IRGC and the Ayotollah in the whole "DEATH TO AMERICA" hateboner? They have an attack to go after The Great Satan right now.
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Over the years, there have allegedly been internecine power struggles between the presidency, the Ayatollah/RGC, and the actual military.
 
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