Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
When are we bombing la?
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This is always a winner of a response because the issues in CA with homelessness and drug addiction were caused by decades of inept democratic rule. They have been blaming reagan for closing the asylums for decades without doing anything other than wasting money. What do they expect Trump to do in CA when it's a state issue?

They would be the first one to holler and pwotest if Trump did turn his eye to CA to clean up the streets. I however, would welcome him as a liberator.
 
DumbDude43 said:
idk about that tbh
in the middle east, the monarchies tend to be much more stable and successful than the republics. pahlavi iran itself was doing pretty well overall in the time before the islamic revolution, both in terms of social development (gradual westernisation) and economics.
monarchy in iran has a 3000 year history, throughout the eons the persian monarchy has survived and outlived events that wiped countless other states off the map forever. the pahlavi dynasty is young, but the institution of the monarchy itself has extremely deep roots in that society, whereas democracy would be completely novel and uncharted territory for them.
i could definitely see them doing better under a monarchy (like saudia, qatar, bahrain, kuwait, UAE) than under a republic (like syria, iraq, egypt, yemen)
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Agree - I was speaking in terms of current-day general popular sentiment, not "what is objectively better."

And that's not to say that Iranis would reject a return of a king/ monarchical government, just that it seems that even Pahlavi himself thinks thinks (or thinks he should say he thinks) that people want some version of Western democracy, even if it could also be a constitutional monarchy as well.

And yes, free-form democracy (which is often just crazy and goes wrong in situations where it's brought in new - I think of Haiti & Aristide; those people desired it so hard, but it got wrecked by corruption, ignorance, and violence...to oversimplify enormously) is not always a best first step. You need infrastructure (checks and balances, rule of law, etc.) that is actually followed and not just exploited, and stability or commitment to it by everyone - and oftentimes emerging from an oppressive regime carries too much emotion and gift, to say nothing of deals with other nations made to get to Point , to transition straight to it - and in those situations a truly responsible monarchic-style government model could do well, either ongoing or transitionally. Iran seems more advanced than some other nations who have been in a position to move to a freer society, but after 40 years of putative theocracy, who knows.
 
Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
Hey guys stalmer is now allowing the usa to use uk bases,

Sorry but we don't need them anymore.
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Does anyone care WHAT Queer Starmer thinks at this point? One of the more enduring repercussions of this mess will be the demonstration to the Europeans of just what the United States of America is truly capable of. The past few years have really implied they have forgotten.
 
Foley said:
Imagine trusting Russia at any capacity:
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they spent the last 4 years arguing that their shenanigans in ukraine aren't actually an invasion and that there is no war, just a special military operation against nazi terrorists in the ukrainian government.
so now when the burgers and jews are saying "we're doing a special military operation against jihadi terrorists in the iranian government" they kinda have to go along with it to avoid collapsing their own ukraine narrative
 
HC4CWH said:
Channel 3 of IRIB, the state TV of the Islamist regime in Iran, has been hacked and is now broadcasting a message from Netanyahu to the Iranian nation, calling on people to overthrow the regime
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It would be hilarious if the Iranian people took over Iran and created a new state and government and their first course of action was to suspend diplomatic relations with the state of Israel
 
Burnt Fish said:
We would do that if we needed to cripple Iran economically.

They are already crippled economically so there is not that need.

Destroying them would only be something that would delay their oil getting back to markets normally once our work there is done and is not something that we would want.
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I wonder if they are going to light them on fire like Saddam did if they get pushed out?
 
neger psykolog said:
It would be hilarious if the Iranian people took over Iran and created a new state and government and their first course of action was to suspend diplomatic relations with the state of Israel
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Now that there coms are hacked we can torture the remnants of the IRGC by playing DSP streams and clips.
 
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